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Post by ricke71 on Jun 19, 2023 17:41:58 GMT -8
.That's a bit of a shock. Wouldn't be surprised to see him at an SEC school like Troy Claunch. Big Ten. Ann Arbor. That's the rumor. Tyler Graham connection ? |
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Post by speakthetruth on Jun 19, 2023 19:38:04 GMT -8
totally agree. If faced with very good pitching, i.e. SEC (as an eligible grad)....or the low minors (though it's unlikely he'd get drafted, or be offered a FA contract)...it would be surprising if he thrived. His OPS 'progression': Freshman: .709 (limited AB's) Summer after FR season (WCL): .507 Soph: .487 Junior: .612 I'm excited to see a new chapter at SS for the Beavs. Hopefully (likely) there will be several candidates. It would be great if Kyle's departure influenced an incoming Freshman to choose college over signing. All in all, SS could be: Trosky, Kane (several games there in 2023, allowing Guerra at 3rd?), Bazzana (tho' I think 2B is where he belongs), Dawson Santana, Reeve Boyd, Caraway (dreaming), or  Frankly, any of those are more exciting to me than Dernedde. I really miss Cadyn Grenier. like your choice of Caraway, but his draft projection puts him around 3 million dollar signing bonus. Hard to turn that down. Far as what we have - Kane maybe, would allow another bat in the lineup. Trosky and Bazanna don’t have the arm and Jabin looks overmatched at the plate. Maybe one of the new guys will be cadyn part 2. 🙏 I can return some beer cans for a start on the 3 million dollar NIL. I will try to drink more if it helps the cause or even if it doesnt. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 19, 2023 21:59:44 GMT -8
Big Ten. Ann Arbor. That's the rumor. Tyler Graham connection ? I mean didn't Graham coach Fall Ball in 2019, Kyle Dernedde's first year? Graham was a coach in the WCL thereafter against Dernedde. |
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Post by obf on Jun 20, 2023 9:33:26 GMT -8
.That's a bit of a shock. Wouldn't be surprised to see him at an SEC school like Troy Claunch. Big Ten. Ann Arbor. That's the rumor. Like Claunch, poached by another ex-coach. How did Tyler Graham end up in Michigan? He Coached on our 2017 and 2018 championship teams. Oh well. Good luck Kyle! |
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Post by obf on Jun 20, 2023 9:50:23 GMT -8
I am betting that Reeve Boyd is next years Kavin Keyes (i.e. Freshman to burst on the scene with a surprisingly great season), I base this mostly on the fact that he is going to major in Mathematics... My type of guy!  |
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Post by messi on Jun 20, 2023 9:59:20 GMT -8
I am betting that Reeve Boyd is next years Kavin Keyes (i.e. Freshman to burst on the scene with a surprisingly great season), I base this mostly on the fact that he is going to major in Mathematics... My type of guy! Can't go wrong with a player named Boyd at Oregon State. |
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Post by cake on Jun 20, 2023 10:50:27 GMT -8
I am betting that Reeve Boyd is next years Kavin Keyes (i.e. Freshman to burst on the scene with a surprisingly great season), I base this mostly on the fact that he is going to major in Mathematics... My type of guy! He's off to a good start for Wenatchee, 11-33, 2 2B (didn't get credit for a 3rd), 1 HR, .961 OPS, more walks than strikeouts.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 20, 2023 11:55:34 GMT -8
Big Ten. Ann Arbor. That's the rumor. Like Claunch, poached by another ex-coach. How did Tyler Graham end up in Michigan? He Coached on our 2017 and 2018 championship teams. Oh well. Good luck Kyle! I don't know. Tracy Smith is now the head coach there. He coached at Arizona State from 2015-2021. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 20, 2023 12:05:44 GMT -8
The shortstops on our CWS teams:
2005-07: Darwin Barney
2013: Tyler Smith
2017-18: Cadyn Grenier
We're not getting there with Kyle Dernedde.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 20, 2023 12:47:57 GMT -8
I am betting that Reeve Boyd is next years Kavin Keyes (i.e. Freshman to burst on the scene with a surprisingly great season), I base this mostly on the fact that he is going to major in Mathematics... My type of guy! He's off to a good start for Wenatchee, 11-33, 2 2B (didn't get credit for a 3rd), 1 HR, .961 OPS, more walks than strikeouts.
More BB that SO is nice. |
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Post by beaver94 on Jun 20, 2023 13:13:23 GMT -8
The shortstops on our CWS teams: 2005-07: Darwin Barney 2013: Tyler Smith 2017-18: Cadyn Grenier We're not getting there with Kyle Dernedde. You’re right since he’s apparently not going to be on the team next year. He wasn’t the reason the team didn’t go this year though, so I’m not sure what your point is. Lots of very good players never make it to the CWS and lots of average players do. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 20, 2023 13:40:46 GMT -8
The shortstops on our CWS teams: 2005-07: Darwin Barney 2013: Tyler Smith 2017-18: Cadyn Grenier We're not getting there with Kyle Dernedde. You’re right since he’s apparently not going to be on the team next year. He wasn’t the reason the team didn’t go this year though, so I’m not sure what your point is. Lots of very good players never make it to the CWS and lots of average players do. Teams with shortstops that hit .240 with a ton of strikeouts generally don't. It's one of the most important positions on the field. We need a serious upgrade. |
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Post by beaver94 on Jun 20, 2023 14:05:22 GMT -8
You’re right since he’s apparently not going to be on the team next year. He wasn’t the reason the team didn’t go this year though, so I’m not sure what your point is. Lots of very good players never make it to the CWS and lots of average players do. Teams with shortstops that hit .240 with a ton of strikeouts generally don't. It's one of the most important positions on the field. We need a serious upgrade. I don't follow stats that closely but this sounds like correlation to me. Are you saying that you can hide a .240 batter with a lot of strikeouts in a different position and it's not as much of an issue as if it was the shortstop? |
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Post by easyheat on Jun 20, 2023 15:02:05 GMT -8
"Not so fast my friend"
Lee Corso
ESPN Gameday
Dernedde is in the Portal but unless MC has informed him OSU doesn't have a roster spot for him next year, he can return to the Beavers. Usually a portal entry means the athlete is looking to transfer but not always. Sometimes guys "test the waters" just to see what might be out there for them in terms of playing opportunity and NIL money.
The Beavs don't have a sure thing replacement at SS but do have several good options with athletes that have played the position well previously - Kane, Trosky, Macias, Caraway, Boyd, and if pitching doesn't work out, A.J. Hutcheson. I would guess we would see some open competition to claim that position. I would expect to see that even if Dernedde returned.
We could even see Wilky take a few fungos this fall.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 20, 2023 15:09:35 GMT -8
Teams with shortstops that hit .240 with a ton of strikeouts generally don't. It's one of the most important positions on the field. We need a serious upgrade. I don't follow stats that closely but this sounds like correlation to me. Are you saying that you can hide a .240 batter with a lot of strikeouts in a different position and it's not as much of an issue as if it was the shortstop? Its mildly correlation but a large part of it is total AB. SS is the position that tends to be the least platooned on defense. A solid SS will lead the team in AB unless injuries occur. Even catchers are platooned more than SS. |
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