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Post by beaverbeliever on Jun 30, 2022 9:41:21 GMT -8
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 30, 2022 9:45:55 GMT -8
Screw those guys. If they do leave, the Pac-12 should put a moratorium on any school playing them in any sport.
Their travel costs would be astronomical.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jun 30, 2022 9:56:39 GMT -8
The last game we ever play in the Coliseum will be a victory. I warned that the cancelling the 2020 season due to Covid, months before a call needed to be made, would reinforce that our conference is not serious about football and SC would think about looking elsewhere. Texas and Oklahoma showed them that the $$$ can make up for any other problems that leaving creates. Hopefully we tell all their minor sports to pound sand and play wcc or travel to Michigan in March for baseball.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 30, 2022 10:06:37 GMT -8
The last game we ever play in the Coliseum will be a victory. I warned that the cancelling the 2020 season due to Covid, months before a call needed to be made, would reinforce that our conference is not serious about football and SC would think about looking elsewhere. Texas and Oklahoma showed them that the $$$ can make up for any other problems that leaving creates. Hopefully we tell all their minor sports to pound sand and play wcc or travel to Michigan in March for baseball. Not necessarily disagreeing but maybe we should wait for Texas and Oklahoma to actually join the SEC and play in that league for several years before calling it a success. A couple of 6-6 or 5-7 seasons in the SEC and berths in the Weedeater Bowl might have them second-guessing themselves, no matter the money. And IMHO it's a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black when USC blames the Pac-12 for "not taking football seriously" while keeping Clay Helton as its head coach for seven seasons.
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Post by william44 on Jun 30, 2022 10:16:59 GMT -8
This will create chaos. Money is why.
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Post by ag87 on Jun 30, 2022 10:22:11 GMT -8
I think this would be a monumental mistake for USC and UCLA. The Pac-12 does need southern California. Besides not playing SC & UCLA in any sport, the PAC would invite San Diego State immediately. Because you need a LA area school, talk to Long Beach State about restarting football. Let the two traitor schools have games in Minneapolis, Bloomington, West Lafayette and New Brunswick. Edit: more thoughts, what does a traveling party of, say 30, cost for a round trip to State College PA?
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Post by sonoma beav on Jun 30, 2022 10:33:45 GMT -8
If they are leaving because the Pac12 was not being serious about football due to Covid rules, I believe the Big 10 had similar rules.
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Post by larbeav on Jun 30, 2022 11:10:25 GMT -8
If this takes place will The beavs & the ducks be in the same conference?
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 30, 2022 11:38:24 GMT -8
"In an historic move that would change the landscape of college sports on the West Coast, USC and UCLA are planning to depart the Pac-12 for the Big Ten as early as 2024, according to a source. The move isn’t official and must be approved at the highest level of power at the two schools and in the Big Ten. The departure will have massive consequences for the Pac-12, stripping it of the schools in its most important recruiting and media hub and the two teams — USC football and UCLA basketball — that serve as the face of the conference in their respective sports. It is not known whether the schools are joining the Big Ten in all sports, only in football, or just in football and men’s basketball. But the future of the conference is suddenly in serious doubt — a potential merger with the Big 12 could be on the table, or the remaining schools could go their separate ways. The planned move creates significant questions, especially for UCLA, which is connected to Cal through the UC system. The development comes one day before the first anniversary of George Kliavkoff becoming commissioner of the Pac-12 and leaves him with a shredded conference that was planning to begin media rights negotiations later this year. Those negotiations will take on an entirely different tone without the two universities in the nation’s No. 2 media market." Way to go Kliavkoff.
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Post by badwack on Jun 30, 2022 11:40:59 GMT -8
Money, Money, Money! Now guess where the 4 Stars are going to go. U of Nike must be going out of their minds.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 30, 2022 11:44:29 GMT -8
It's gonna happen. Screw those guys. They're mad they don't get a bigger share of Pac-12 TV rights, because they play in the largest market.
The equally-shared TV revenue saved the NFL and ultimately made it great, ensuring relative parity. Green Bay was on an equal footing with New York or LA or Chicago. The "everybody wanting as much as they can get" attitude is killing/will kill college sports.
And if I'm (for example) a baseball player from SoCal, why go to UCLA or USC and play half of my games clear across the country in crappy weather, when I can play at Fullerton or UCSB, stay local, stay warm, and have my family have an affordable chance to see most of my games?
Those LA vs. Rutgers games will be instant classics.
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Post by castorcanadensis on Jun 30, 2022 11:46:47 GMT -8
Maybe OSU already knew. Hence the new small 35k mountain west stadium. Maybe WSU and OSU will head there and oregon and Washington will head east to a major conference.
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Post by castorcanadensis on Jun 30, 2022 11:47:57 GMT -8
Money, Money, Money! Now guess where the 4 Stars are going to go. U of Nike must be going out of their minds. Oregon has Phil knight, they will be fine. Maybe even better off without the PAC-10.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 30, 2022 11:50:27 GMT -8
The good news is, maybe now we can s%#tcan the Pac-12 baseball tournament.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 30, 2022 11:54:55 GMT -8
..that this is a negotiating ploy for SC and UCLA. They want media payouts in the next conference contract (to be negotiated later this year) to reflect their larger market footprints and are (behind the scenes) making that a prerequisite for remaining in the conference. Or they may want the power to negotiate their own separate media deals. Tough choice for the remaining 10.
Either way, OSU won’t have much if any leverage. We’re along for the ride.
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