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Post by rgeorge on Oct 5, 2024 9:56:44 GMT -8
If all you want is a media market, invite SJSU. I don't think the seven MWC schools have signed on officially yet. The market is twice the size of Sacramento, they're already FBS and they already have a stadium. Or at least 2/3 of a stadium. And, an easy, cheap roadie. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 5, 2024 10:12:12 GMT -8
Yeah... not really sold on Sac St. But, unless we know the inside info who knows who will be the best fit. But, let's not get into the spending on Reser. That's an entire thread in and of itself. It's very nice. I'd argue that $360 mil in renovations & additions since 2005 is ridiculous. Knowing what we know now probably makes it more so. Furd tore down, rebuilt in the off season for $90 mil in 2005. Not sure if they've added upgrades since? But, it's a great place to watch a game. They seats will last forever as they're rarely used! Even though it wasn't like cash on hand I'd love for OSU to have access to $270 mil or so on hand now! I heard that Stanford wound up paying around $100 million at the end of the day. Fundraising started in 2005, but demolition did not start until 2006 and was not completed until 2007. Still, Stanford did not play in a game in anything less than a fully functional stadium. Oregon Sate paid almost four times as much for a stadium more than 40% smaller and played the greatest season of the past 20 years in a partially-completed stadium. What happened to the other $260 million? Where exactly did that money really go? There's a reason that the Pac-12 was down to two teams this year........... Stanford is a private institution. They don’t have to tell anybody how much they paid for anything. And if they do publicize a number, Lord knows how close it is to the actual cost. I’ve been told that stadium they constructed in 10 months looks exactly like a stadium that was constructed in 10 months. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 5, 2024 10:23:08 GMT -8
I heard that Stanford wound up paying around $100 million at the end of the day. Fundraising started in 2005, but demolition did not start until 2006 and was not completed until 2007. Still, Stanford did not play in a game in anything less than a fully functional stadium. Oregon Sate paid almost four times as much for a stadium more than 40% smaller and played the greatest season of the past 20 years in a partially-completed stadium. What happened to the other $260 million? Where exactly did that money really go? There's a reason that the Pac-12 was down to two teams this year........... Stanford is a private institution. They don’t have to tell anybody how much they paid for anything. And if they do publicize a number, Lord knows how close it is to the actual cost. I’ve been told that stadium they constructed in 10 months looks exactly like a stadium that was constructed in 10 months. They also don’t have to abide by all the public red tape, prevailing wages, union stuff. It’s the same reason uo has Phil build stuff privately on their land and then deed over to the university when it’s completed. It’s way cheaper that way. |
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Post by ag87 on Oct 5, 2024 11:10:47 GMT -8
You don't want a low-ball contractor using their "C" team building your stadium. The guys that are good only work at prevailing wage. But per Spud's post, maybe that is what they did?
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 5, 2024 11:27:55 GMT -8
Yeah... not really sold on Sac St. But, unless we know the inside info who knows who will be the best fit. But, let's not get into the spending on Reser. That's an entire thread in and of itself. It's very nice. I'd argue that $360 mil in renovations & additions since 2005 is ridiculous. Knowing what we know now probably makes it more so. Furd tore down, rebuilt in the off season for $90 mil in 2005. Not sure if they've added upgrades since? But, it's a great place to watch a game. They seats will last forever as they're rarely used! Even though it wasn't like cash on hand I'd love for OSU to have access to $270 mil or so on hand now! I heard that Stanford wound up paying around $100 million at the end of the day. Fundraising started in 2005, but demolition did not start until 2006 and was not completed until 2007. Still, Stanford did not play in a game in anything less than a fully functional stadium. Oregon Sate paid almost four times as much for a stadium more than 40% smaller and played the greatest season of the past 20 years in a partially-completed stadium. What happened to the other $260 million? Where exactly did that money really go? There's a reason that the Pac-12 was down to two teams this year........... Stanford’s stadium is not 40% bigger than Reser. Math…it’s not even 30% bigger… Reser $$ also included the student health center, the welcome center, etc. Stanford stadium is just a very bland cookie cutter stadium with bleachers. |
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Post by ag87 on Oct 5, 2024 11:53:26 GMT -8
You don't want a low-ball contractor using their "C" team building your stadium. The guys that are good only work at prevailing wage. But per Spud's post, maybe that is what they did? I wrote spud but it was per Werebeaver's post |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 5, 2024 12:53:41 GMT -8
I heard that Stanford wound up paying around $100 million at the end of the day. Fundraising started in 2005, but demolition did not start until 2006 and was not completed until 2007. Still, Stanford did not play in a game in anything less than a fully functional stadium. Oregon Sate paid almost four times as much for a stadium more than 40% smaller and played the greatest season of the past 20 years in a partially-completed stadium. What happened to the other $260 million? Where exactly did that money really go? There's a reason that the Pac-12 was down to two teams this year........... Stanford’s stadium is not 40% bigger than Reser. Math…it’s not even 30% bigger… Reser $$ also included the student health center, the welcome center, etc. Stanford stadium is just a very bland cookie cutter stadium with bleachers. He could be correct. Reser's official seating capacity- 35,548 Stanford stadium official seating capacity- 50,424 Seating capacity-wise it's 41.8% larger. Not sure what the capacities are including SRO and such. Don't know about footprints/height/volume/amount of concrete. "Bigger" is up to debate on how one defines bigger I guess. |
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Post by EmeraldEmpire on Oct 5, 2024 13:05:00 GMT -8
If all you want is a media market, invite SJSU. I don't think the seven MWC schools have signed on officially yet. The market is twice the size of Sacramento, they're already FBS and they already have a stadium. Or at least 2/3 of a stadium. The question would be what percentage of that coveted media market actually gives a flying f%#* about San Jose State athletics though ... |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 5, 2024 13:07:45 GMT -8
Stanford’s stadium is not 40% bigger than Reser. Math…it’s not even 30% bigger… Reser $$ also included the student health center, the welcome center, etc. Stanford stadium is just a very bland cookie cutter stadium with bleachers. He could be correct. Reser's official seating capacity- 35,548 Stanford stadium official seating capacity- 50,424 Seating capacity-wise it's 41.8% larger. Not sure what the capacities are including SRO and such. Don't know about footprints/height/volume/amount of concrete. "Bigger" is up to debate on how one defines bigger I guess. "Cookie cutter! I'm guessing from bias fan or one who's never been. It's a great venue for what it is, a place to watch football. Not a luxury box in sight, only approx 500 premium seats, great view from 50k seats, concourse that actually encircles the stadium with a view of the field/game, plenty of restrooms, and superior food options. And, yeah, anyone who thinks Stanford uses "C grade" anything is off their rocker and had never been on campus! |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 5, 2024 19:22:43 GMT -8
He could be correct. Reser's official seating capacity- 35,548 Stanford stadium official seating capacity- 50,424 Seating capacity-wise it's 41.8% larger. Not sure what the capacities are including SRO and such. Don't know about footprints/height/volume/amount of concrete. "Bigger" is up to debate on how one defines bigger I guess. "Cookie cutter! I'm guessing from bias fan or one who's never been. It's a great venue for what it is, a place to watch football. Not a luxury box in sight, only approx 500 premium seats, great view from 50k seats, concourse that actually encircles the stadium with a view of the field/game, plenty of restrooms, and superior food options. And, yeah, anyone who thinks Stanford uses "C grade" anything is off their rocker and had never been on campus! I’ve been there several times. It’s very bland. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 5, 2024 20:18:56 GMT -8
"Cookie cutter! I'm guessing from bias fan or one who's never been. It's a great venue for what it is, a place to watch football. Not a luxury box in sight, only approx 500 premium seats, great view from 50k seats, concourse that actually encircles the stadium with a view of the field/game, plenty of restrooms, and superior food options. And, yeah, anyone who thinks Stanford uses "C grade" anything is off their rocker and had never been on campus! I’ve been there several times. It’s very bland. The campus is cool but the lost noticeable thing I noticed is it's freaking empty since covid. We went their last year in April and the last n campus density in the areas you would expect some students was lower than OSU during summer term when I attended. It's like walking through a European city at midnight or something. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 5, 2024 20:49:26 GMT -8
If all you want is a media market, invite SJSU. I don't think the seven MWC schools have signed on officially yet. The market is twice the size of Sacramento, they're already FBS and they already have a stadium. Or at least 2/3 of a stadium. The question would be what percentage of that coveted media market actually gives a flying f%#* about San Jose State athletics though ... None. Or about the same percentage of the coveted media market that cares about Sac State. Point being, neither is a Pac-12 school. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 5, 2024 20:51:01 GMT -8
I’ve been there several times. It’s very bland. The campus is cool but the lost noticeable thing I noticed is it's freaking empty since covid. We went their last year in April and the last n campus density in the areas you would expect some students was lower than OSU during summer term when I attended. It's like walking through a European city at midnight or something. You're going to the wrong European cities? |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 5, 2024 20:58:17 GMT -8
The campus is cool but the lost noticeable thing I noticed is it's freaking empty since covid. We went their last year in April and the last n campus density in the areas you would expect some students was lower than OSU during summer term when I attended. It's like walking through a European city at midnight or something. You're going to the wrong European cities? Probably, the German ones have bedtimes. Italy and Spain only slept after lunch lol |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 5, 2024 21:17:33 GMT -8
Stanford had no excavation costs, kept the former press box, built a no-frills stadium that has all the character and charm of the 9th Street Walmart.
As a private entity, they don't have to say how much it cost. My guess is it cost well over what they announced.
Levis Stadium was built in the same region less than seven years later. It cost $1.3 billion; since some public money was involved, you got a true accounting of the price. Obviously, it is bigger and nicer, but it still should not have cost 13 times what Stanford's cost, if Stanford released true figures.
We won't be [playing any games there in the foreseeable future anyways.
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