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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 24, 2024 15:01:40 GMT -8
Who do you think would actually come here if the ACC falls apart? Cal, maybe.....that's it. Stanford is not coming back. They still are holding on to their academic superiority complex. They would go independent before joining us. SMU would probably be coveted by the Big 12. So, it's not like we'd have a plethora of teams knocking on our door if the ACC collapsed. And, it's likely to take too long to collapse for us to wait at the chance to pick up a team or two. I wouldn't want Stanford back if they were paying their way back in. Same with USC. Both just a problem child start to finish. I would hope for Cal and SMU, and potentially 2 divisions with the ACC leftovers and some AAC teams in there. Biggest thing right now is that we keep it small, and keep our options open. Add UNLV, and Gonzaga for hoops and call it a day. They are going to have to add Gonzaga for all other sports, not just hoops, if you want enough teams to have a baseball conference. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 24, 2024 15:04:46 GMT -8
SLC is not very Mormon. Park City is not very Mormon. The areas around the 11 reservations is also not very Mormon. Mormonism would be an argument to keep BYU out of the Pac-12, not Utah State. (And it would not be a compelling argument.) If it makes anyone feel any better, I'm perfectly fine changing my mind about the Mormon influence in Utah. I haven't had great experiences there, but maybe I was just in the wrong places. I mean, all the street names are in reference to the church, etc, etc, but I'll try to keep an open mind on that one. What I can't wrap my head around is how Utah even supports 3 D1 programs, let alone what good it does the Pac to add the least popular one from a state smaller than Oregon, who struggles to fill their small stadium, and seemingly has a lot of baggage to bring with it right now. It really wouldn't be much different if it was one of the other MW also rans. Maybe I'll feel differently after a while, but this is all pretty disappointing right now. Especially, since we are basically fulfilling all the pipe dreams of our detractors by going this direction. The optics of this are terrible, and we will not hold onto any prestige whatsoever if we can't build something that doesn't simply equal a reimagined MW. I wonder what part Scott Barnes’ previous history as AD at Utah St may have played in their selection. |
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Post by joecool on Sept 24, 2024 15:06:34 GMT -8
I wouldn't want Stanford back if they were paying their way back in. Same with USC. Both just a problem child start to finish. I would hope for Cal and SMU, and potentially 2 divisions with the ACC leftovers and some AAC teams in there. Biggest thing right now is that we keep it small, and keep our options open. Add UNLV, and Gonzaga for hoops and call it a day. They are going to have to add Gonzaga for all other sports, not just hoops, if you want enough teams to have a baseball conference. I hope everyone knows this. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 24, 2024 15:08:25 GMT -8
"on the flip side of the coin" For you lawyers out there, is this a good turn of phrase? Maybe he’s getting paid by word. More billable words in that awkward phrase than in something more succinct. Sometimes (and unusually) you get paid by the line. But it does not seem to have moved it down a line. Maybe it was because the author thought that a word "conversely" would make that line or the line before after look better, if it was expanded. But it is not even justified with sloppy different sized lines. The more I look at it, the less I like it. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 24, 2024 15:32:22 GMT -8
They are going to have to add Gonzaga for all other sports, not just hoops, if you want enough teams to have a baseball conference. I hope everyone knows this. If you do not get to six Pac-12 baseball schools, you can add an affiliate. The most obvious affiliate choices are Dallas Baptist (actually a Division 2 school in most other sports) and Northern Colorado and Sacramento State (the two remaining Big Sky baseball teams), since they are already affiliate universities. Dallas Baptist seems very happy in Conference USA, so that may kind of a longshot. Sacramento State is the most obvious of the remaining two. They may jump at the chance to be a Pac-12 baseball member, especially if they are in a division with Oregon State and Wazzu. I should add that John Smith Field is not great, but maybe we could get an agreement to play conference games at Sutter Health Park (where the Athletics are moving from 2025-2027, sharing it with the AAA Sacramento River Cats). |
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Post by beavheart on Sept 24, 2024 16:08:20 GMT -8
I wouldn't want Stanford back if they were paying their way back in. Same with USC. Both just a problem child start to finish. I would hope for Cal and SMU, and potentially 2 divisions with the ACC leftovers and some AAC teams in there. Biggest thing right now is that we keep it small, and keep our options open. Add UNLV, and Gonzaga for hoops and call it a day. They are going to have to add Gonzaga for all other sports, not just hoops, if you want enough teams to have a baseball conference. That's what I meant. And yes! We want them for baseball for sure, and all other sports. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Sept 24, 2024 16:46:22 GMT -8
Canzano now reporting that in recent days the MWC was looking at splitting up WSU and OSU… and taking WSU.
It’s on now!
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 24, 2024 17:28:48 GMT -8
Canzano now reporting that in recent days the MWC was looking at splitting up WSU and OSU… and taking WSU. It’s on now! That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard. Why would WSU leave us now? |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Sept 24, 2024 17:30:54 GMT -8
Canzano now reporting that in recent days the MWC was looking at splitting up WSU and OSU… and taking WSU. It’s on now! That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard. Why would WSU leave us now? Maybe it's tied to the rumor the Big 12 was interested in adding OSU only. Because bloggers... |
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Post by ochobeavo on Sept 24, 2024 18:05:07 GMT -8
Utah State - officially official. PAC-7
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Post by sparty on Sept 24, 2024 18:19:36 GMT -8
There are times when brevity is great in legal pleadings. Motions, Responses, and Replies are good examples. However, you are usually punished and not rewarded for conciseness in Complaints. Complaints usually can be submitted to a judge or jury at trial, so it is important that they are accurate and easy to read and relatively entertaining, if possible. I pointed out that I would personally break up that one mammoth paragraph into at least four paragraphs (and probably five), because it would make it easier to read and probably would be more helpful in anticipating how the allegation will be answered. I despise reading big block paragraphs in a Complaint myself, so I might be projecting........... Have you read some of your posts?  LOL. Well played. That was a direct hit  |
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Post by seastape on Sept 24, 2024 18:25:12 GMT -8
"on the flip side of the coin" For you lawyers out there, is this a good turn of phrase? Yes. Used properly, an interesting adage perks up the reader and makes them pay attention. A good motion is a good read, if it can be managed. |
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Post by sparty on Sept 24, 2024 18:32:14 GMT -8
Canzano now reporting that in recent days the MWC was looking at splitting up WSU and OSU… and taking WSU. It’s on now! Just heard tonight that Washington State is still considering joining the MWC. Caught the end of the discussion on the way home tonight and saw nothing on line except from Canzano. Thought immediately this cant be real and just goofballs screwing around having fun. I mean really not true , right? WSU to MWC? Does not seem plausible at all, just social media crap. Makes no sense at all. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 24, 2024 18:39:52 GMT -8
Canzano now reporting that in recent days the MWC was looking at splitting up WSU and OSU… and taking WSU. It’s on now! That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard. Why would WSU leave us now? They wouldn't. Navarez was just trying the old "divide and conquer" trick, trying to create a mess between the programs. |
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Post by seastape on Sept 24, 2024 18:42:12 GMT -8
Canzano now reporting that in recent days the MWC was looking at splitting up WSU and OSU… and taking WSU. It’s on now! Just heard tonight that Washington State is still considering joining the MWC. Caught the end of the discussion on the way home tonight and saw nothing on line except from Canzano. Thought immediately this cant be real and just goofballs screwing around having fun. I mean really not true , right? WSU to MWC? Does not seem plausible at all, just social media crap. Makes no sense at all. Was there a discussion on the radio as to why the MWC would only take WSU and not OSU? Was there a discussion as to why WSU would not be interested in joining the upper half of the MWC (now part of the Pac) instead of the lower half? If WSU bolts, does OSU become the sole heir to the rest of the Pac assets? If the Pac can't get any more schools from the MWC to join, then grab New Mexico State and call it a day. There would still be 7 decent-to-good football schools out of 8, and NMSU, despite the last two years, has a good track record in basketball. Try and get Gonzaga while you're at it. |
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