9/24 Conference Madness Thread

Really can't stand the BS narrative about us being the "bottom of the previous Pac12".

Yeah, that would have been the Arizona schools, or the Bay Area schools depending on what sport, and when we're talking about there Ross.

Bottom line, OSU and WSU got left behind because of geography and market size, but were suddenly "the bottom of the conference".

All of the hype and BS is killing me. I hate that a bunch of fan boy nonsense is now just stated as fact, as media moguls enable this crap while they simultaneously drive the bus off a cliff.

Not a fan of raiding the MWC for a bunch of reasons, and it merely fuels the collective hit job being done on us by the media that seems hell bent on making sure that we are relegated to "other" status.

I was reluctantly OK with the first 4 MWC additions. Adding Utah State feels like surrender.

From McMurphy's article:

Rebel donors were outraged by the decision to remain in the Mountain West, sources said.


The die is cast. The last 24 hours UNLV has been posturing. They're coming, they can't afford to alienate their donors. 

Funny that when the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and Big 12 do the raiding, it's written off as "a strategic consolidation of power so they remain at the top of college football," even though it basically resulted in the end of the historical Pac-12 and the emasculation of the Big 12.

When we do it in an attempt to survive, we're depicted as heartlessly destroying another conference.

At one point after the initial expansion, I read somewhere that I can't recall that the reason they didn't immediately go for UNLV is that they wanted to negotiate with the MWC to not take UNLV (knowing it would cripple them) in exchange for lower exit fees. I don't remember who said that, or how much of it is actually real. But it does seem to fit the narrative/timeline.

I don't see any way the MWC dissolves. The outgoing members have no votes in the process and you'd need most of the remaining members to vote to do so. Why would they walk away from a hundred million (or whatever the number is) in exit fees to invest in their program? They'd take the money, buy some cheap-arse schools and then keep most of the money for themselves. That's exactly what the AD at Wyoming wanted to do.

I think the thing I'm most disappointed in is that we didn't really have an immediate play, that panned out, to add new members outside of the old MWC. I know many here didn't want the Eastern teams, but I think it really would have just solidified that best of the rest and was certainly doable with pods.

Also - like beavheart - I can't stand either all the trashing of OSU and WSU by others as the teams no one wanted. I read it a lot on the Tulane and Memphis boards about how much of a gain was the PAC-12 when it was anchored by two teams no one wanted (ironic, given that no one wants Tulane or Memphis). There's just a lot of smack talk by people who are pretty damn smug, IMO. I think in 5 years, and then again in 10 years, the tables may turn a bit.

Utah State beat us in a bowl game. That's all I know.

I would never repeat this, and please don't tell Wilky this, but I like the fact that the Pac-12 is willing to go to the mat all over the place w/ lawyers.

I mean, we've been screwed over so many times and people like to play games. But I have a feeling that this is also sending a signal to CFP and the broader CFB about OSU being willing to engage lawyers if their autonomous status or payouts aren't adjusted.

Lawyer acquaintance says our take is a great argument. Would like to hear Bill Farley's take