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Post by ftd on Jun 7, 2024 16:36:41 GMT -8
Seems odd to me players on the current roster would enter the portal with the season still happening...
I suspect we will lose a ton, just like very other sport. Hell, the WBB lost nearly the whole team after being in the E8. Why wouldn't the same happen to BB? Independent may save us..but only time will tell.
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Jun 7, 2024 16:50:08 GMT -8
Arms we have to keep: Segura, Keljo, Palmer. (IMO these are the glue guys for next years starting rotation. Position players you have to keep: Turley, Caraway, Macias. (Those are your position player glue guys) I don’t know if a domino effect happens with the pitchers but if talent leaves guys will start to look around. Especially the top prospects. Don’t be worried when some of the “have to keep” leave. I agree. I think we have the ability to rebuild no matter what. But when you have MLB level prospects gotta find ways to retain them. Just like winning championships I think the level you turn out professional prospects is even more important for the relevance of a program. We have a couple guys who could go pretty high next year (Turley and Caraway projected top 2 rounders if they play to their abilities. Macias and Keljo have a chance to go high as well. Krieg could go in the draft also. |
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Post by beaverfanball on Jun 7, 2024 19:47:47 GMT -8
Forrester Boyd and Larson so far. Heard there are 5-6 more. What I have heard is not much mechanical work being done behind the scenes. A lot of mental not much tinkering. I’m high on Keljo and Segura they have pitch ability. I’m not very high on Palmer. Elite FB but nothing else. Mejia has his moments. Montgomery seemed to get buried after 1 bad outing at USC. Elite changeup. Chase Reynolds couldn’t throw a strike. It’s gonna get interesting.
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 7, 2024 20:21:45 GMT -8
Don’t be worried when some of the “have to keep” leave. I agree. I think we have the ability to rebuild no matter what. But when you have MLB level prospects gotta find ways to retain them. Just like winning championships I think the level you turn out professional prospects is even more important for the relevance of a program. We have a couple guys who could go pretty high next year (Turley and Caraway projected top 2 rounders if they play to their abilities. Macias and Keljo have a chance to go high as well. Krieg could go in the draft also. Drafted in no ways means "MLB level prospects". OSU has been fortunate that several players worked their arse off and developed nicely after being drafted. But, MLB level was not what they were at OSU. Last study I read which MLB actually participated & looked at was about 5-6 yrs ago. Draft round/% that played MLB 1st / 67% 2nd / 49% 3rd / 39% 4th / 35% 5th / 33% 6th / 24% 7th / 20% 8th / 24% 9th / 18% 10th/ 17% 11th on total 9.9% I'll bet the % hasn't changed much. |
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Post by steinlager on Jun 7, 2024 20:45:51 GMT -8
I agree. I think we have the ability to rebuild no matter what. But when you have MLB level prospects gotta find ways to retain them. Just like winning championships I think the level you turn out professional prospects is even more important for the relevance of a program. We have a couple guys who could go pretty high next year (Turley and Caraway projected top 2 rounders if they play to their abilities. Macias and Keljo have a chance to go high as well. Krieg could go in the draft also. Drafted in no ways means "MLB level prospects". OSU has been fortunate that several players worked their arse off and developed nicely after being drafted. But, MLB level was not what they were at OSU. Last study I read which MLB actually participated & looked at was about 5-6 yrs ago. Draft round/% that played MLB 1st / 67% 2nd / 49% 3rd / 39% 4th / 35% 5th / 33% 6th / 24% 7th / 20% 8th / 24% 9th / 18% 10th/ 17% 11th on total 9.9% I'll bet the % hasn't changed much. Interesting that rounds 6 through 9 are pretty similar and 8th rounders make the show more than 7th. Even 33% of first round picks never make it but are paid handsomely to try. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 7, 2024 21:18:12 GMT -8
Drafted in no ways means "MLB level prospects". OSU has been fortunate that several players worked their arse off and developed nicely after being drafted. But, MLB level was not what they were at OSU. Last study I read which MLB actually participated & looked at was about 5-6 yrs ago. Draft round/% that played MLB 1st / 67% 2nd / 49% 3rd / 39% 4th / 35% 5th / 33% 6th / 24% 7th / 20% 8th / 24% 9th / 18% 10th/ 17% 11th on total 9.9% I'll bet the % hasn't changed much. Interesting that rounds 6 through 9 are pretty similar and 8th rounders make the show more than 7th. Even 33% of first round picks never make it but are paid handsomely to try. So many just are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Some just waste their talent and opportunity. Sometimes it's plain luck, good or bad. |
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Post by grovestbeav on Jun 7, 2024 21:28:18 GMT -8
Arms we have to keep: Segura, Keljo, Palmer. (IMO these are the glue guys for next years starting rotation. Position players you have to keep: Turley, Caraway, Macias. (Those are your position player glue guys) I don’t know if a domino effect happens with the pitchers but if talent leaves guys will start to look around. Especially the top prospects. Don’t be worried when some of the “have to keep” leave. So you do you think are leaving? Palmer? More? |
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Post by beaverfanball on Jun 7, 2024 21:44:16 GMT -8
Kids are going to leave. I said it back in April. Pitching seniors midweek doesn’t help you develop. I know our arms weren’t the best but do we know what we have? Segura yes we know. Palmer hasn’t thrown in a month. Reynolds in 3 months. Mejia couple times. Montgomery since USC. These kids needed to be used mid week to see what they could do. Our bullpen has been our problem all year. However these kids didn’t get chances and they are going to leave.
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Jun 7, 2024 21:56:51 GMT -8
I agree. I think we have the ability to rebuild no matter what. But when you have MLB level prospects gotta find ways to retain them. Just like winning championships I think the level you turn out professional prospects is even more important for the relevance of a program. We have a couple guys who could go pretty high next year (Turley and Caraway projected top 2 rounders if they play to their abilities. Macias and Keljo have a chance to go high as well. Krieg could go in the draft also. Drafted in no ways means "MLB level prospects". OSU has been fortunate that several players worked their arse off and developed nicely after being drafted. But, MLB level was not what they were at OSU. Last study I read which MLB actually participated & looked at was about 5-6 yrs ago. Draft round/% that played MLB 1st / 67% 2nd / 49% 3rd / 39% 4th / 35% 5th / 33% 6th / 24% 7th / 20% 8th / 24% 9th / 18% 10th/ 17% 11th on total 9.9% I'll bet the % hasn't changed much. Should have worded that differently my bad. Better term is “pro prospects”. Most of the making the big leagues comes down how obsessed you are. Like anything else in life the guys that want it the most usually get it. Definitely some luck sprinkled in. Either way you look at it. Where guys are drafted and how many make big league rosters are extremely important to the optics of the program on a national stage. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 8, 2024 3:59:02 GMT -8
I agree. I think we have the ability to rebuild no matter what. But when you have MLB level prospects gotta find ways to retain them. Just like winning championships I think the level you turn out professional prospects is even more important for the relevance of a program. We have a couple guys who could go pretty high next year (Turley and Caraway projected top 2 rounders if they play to their abilities. Macias and Keljo have a chance to go high as well. Krieg could go in the draft also. Drafted in no ways means "MLB level prospects". OSU has been fortunate that several players worked their arse off and developed nicely after being drafted. But, MLB level was not what they were at OSU. Last study I read which MLB actually participated & looked at was about 5-6 yrs ago. Draft round/% that played MLB 1st / 67% 2nd / 49% 3rd / 39% 4th / 35% 5th / 33% 6th / 24% 7th / 20% 8th / 24% 9th / 18% 10th/ 17% 11th on total 9.9% I'll bet the % hasn't changed much. I am not reading backwards to figure out what this discussion is about, but I wanted to add that Baseball America looked at the first two rounds last year and came up with 81% of first rounders played in MLB. It then broke out hitters and pitchers for the second round and found that 63% of second round hitters and 64% of second round pitchers play in MLB. It also further broke down each of the first two rounds by position: Pos. 1st Round 2nd Round 1B 91.7% 85.7% 3B 90.2% 83.3% C 87.3% 66.7% SS 83.3% 65.2% OF 82.9% 64.0% 2B 76.9% 60.0% Baseball America did not go into the later rounds, which is unfortunate. |
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Post by 56chevy on Jun 8, 2024 4:22:28 GMT -8
Kids are going to leave. I said it back in April. Pitching seniors midweek doesn’t help you develop. I know our arms weren’t the best but do we know what we have? Segura yes we know. Palmer hasn’t thrown in a month. Reynolds in 3 months. Mejia couple times. Montgomery since USC. These kids needed to be used mid week to see what they could do. Our bullpen has been our problem all year. However these kids didn’t get chances and they are going to leave. Is the priority kids getting continued chances that put games in jeopardy? The Casey standard seemed to be to develop kids and figure out what you've got prior to Pac 12 play. Once league play started every game was approached as if it were game 3 of a Super Regional. The intensity by the guy at the top came with it. In my view Mitch already blurs the line between winning games and trying to give kids a chance. Insinuating that guys are not getting enough time to develop and as such the program is in jeopardy is wrong. On this day, of all days 100% of everyone's focus should be on winning a baseball game. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jun 8, 2024 6:26:25 GMT -8
To those that go...good luck kids.
You are choosing to leave one of, if not arguably the best college baseball program the past 20 years. Maybe next year is your time to shine...as a Beaver, or as an Anteater, or Aztec, or Trojan.
If you were my kid I'd tell you you're in the best program in the country and leaving is f%#*ing idiotic, you right now play for one of 16 teams vying for the college world series (fir the 4th time this millennium).
But hey...Go Beavs!
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Post by irimi on Jun 8, 2024 9:25:45 GMT -8
We don’t know what these kids have been told by the coaching staff or what has been alluded to. So for those who wore the orange and black and gave it their all, I wish them luck. For those leaving because of realignment, I say you’re foolish. For those who leave for more money, so long.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 8, 2024 9:47:55 GMT -8
Seems odd to me players on the current roster would enter the portal with the season still happening... I suspect we will lose a ton, just like very other sport. Hell, the WBB lost nearly the whole team after being in the E8. Why wouldn't the same happen to BB? Independent may save us..but only time will tell. We could be playing for at least another 10-15 days. Kids need to get their name out now. School ends Friday, they have to schedule visits around playing for their summer programs, etc. |
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Post by grovestbeav on Jun 8, 2024 16:36:11 GMT -8
Roster Management begins - lots of activity ahead. Graduates, Pro ball, Transfers out, Transfers in, and new recruiting class. The Portal so far: Junior RHP Noah Ferguson Freshman IF Reeve Boyd R/S Freshman IF Brandon Forrester So Ferguson is pitching while in the portal? |
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