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Post by orangeattack on Oct 16, 2016 21:29:02 GMT -8
As for the big "close"... "Marianne Vydra (Interim AD) when asked about GA: "He is inspiring," Vydra said. "He's a good man and a good leader and he knows the game. I would say this is the best football coach Oregon State has ever had in the time that I've been here." Hmmmm... like Marianne has spent a lot of time with GA? Lol... the last part sounds like politics. Maybe wants support for AD job. Cuz anyone in the ADs office that would say that after 1+ years compared to MRs tenure and reputation on campus loses all credibility. Clearly she's trying to just give GA a vote of confidence and didn't necessarily mean it as a slight against Riley but yeah I have to agree. Pretty asinine statement. Hell, I think people would have been up in arms if BDC had said the same about Riley early in his return after DE left too.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 16, 2016 21:32:27 GMT -8
As for the big "close"... "Marianne Vydra (Interim AD) when asked about GA: "He is inspiring," Vydra said. "He's a good man and a good leader and he knows the game. I would say this is the best football coach Oregon State has ever had in the time that I've been here." Hmmmm... like Marianne has spent a lot of time with GA? Lol... the last part sounds like politics. Maybe wants support for AD job. Cuz anyone in the ADs office that would say that after 1+ years compared to MRs tenure and reputation on campus loses all credibility. Clearly she's trying to just give GA a vote of confidence and didn't necessarily mean it as a slight against Riley but yeah I have to agree. Pretty asinine statement. Hell, I think people would have been up in arms if BDC had said the same about Riley early in his return after DE left too. Excellent point on the vote of confidence. Never thought about that in those terms!
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Post by beaverbeliever on Oct 16, 2016 21:41:56 GMT -8
Hmmmm... like Marianne has spent a lot of time with GA? Lol... the last part sounds like politics. Maybe wants support for AD job. Cuz anyone in the ADs office that would say that after 1+ years compared to MRs tenure and reputation on campus loses all credibility. Sorry you think people who disagree belong on a separate board. Maybe you need to read your own post! As you then bring up MR in a demeaning way and yet that seems appropriate in complete contrast to your complaint? You are so full of crap. Marianne has been working with GA for 1.5 years - I'd say her opinion counts for more than someone who claims all of his insider info from talking to players at team hotels.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 16, 2016 22:10:04 GMT -8
Hmmmm... like Marianne has spent a lot of time with GA? Lol... the last part sounds like politics. Maybe wants support for AD job. Cuz anyone in the ADs office that would say that after 1+ years compared to MRs tenure and reputation on campus loses all credibility. Sorry you think people who disagree belong on a separate board. Maybe you need to read your own post! As you then bring up MR in a demeaning way and yet that seems appropriate in complete contrast to your complaint? You are so full of crap. Marianne has been working with GA for 1.5 years - I'd say her opinion counts for more than someone who claims all of his insider info from talking to players at team hotels. Where is the quote from? Vydra has absolutely no football background. She was only working on the women's sports side until at least 2005. Team hotel telephone chatter aside, in my opinion, Baseba11 has shown that he is very knowledgeable about football. If he is saying one thing and Vydra is saying another about football, Baseba11's probably right. In law, in order to opine about something, you have to prove that you have the background and experience to support your opinion. I do not know why we should be listening to Vydra at all. For example, Vydra may be a very smart woman with a lot of experience in various sports, but that does not mean that I care to hear her opinion about how and why an RF resonant cavity thruster works. If you want to provide us with additional evidence as to why Vydra's opinion should actually matter in the least, I invite you to do so.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 16, 2016 22:15:12 GMT -8
Hmmmm... like Marianne has spent a lot of time with GA? Lol... the last part sounds like politics. Maybe wants support for AD job. Cuz anyone in the ADs office that would say that after 1+ years compared to MRs tenure and reputation on campus loses all credibility. Sorry you think people who disagree belong on a separate board. Maybe you need to read your own post! As you then bring up MR in a demeaning way and yet that seems appropriate in complete contrast to your complaint? You are so full of crap. Marianne has been working with GA for 1.5 years - I'd say her opinion counts for more than someone who claims all of his insider info from talking to players at team hotels. There's an intelligent post... as usual. 😁
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Post by orangeattack on Oct 16, 2016 22:16:07 GMT -8
You are so full of crap. Marianne has been working with GA for 1.5 years - I'd say her opinion counts for more than someone who claims all of his insider info from talking to players at team hotels. Where is the quote from? Vydra has absolutely no football background. She was only working on the women's sports side until at least 2005. Quote is from the Oregonian: www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/10/oregon_state_interim_athletic.html
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 16, 2016 22:18:54 GMT -8
Thank you, OA. It seems like her focus thusfar in her career has been diversity and women's athletics.
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Post by orangeattack on Oct 16, 2016 22:25:56 GMT -8
Thank you, OA. It seems like her focus thusfar in her career has been diversity and women's athletics. it does make me wonder. I keep reading Baseba1111's "full of crap" (lol) post and the thing that jumps out at me is where he says "like Marianne has spent a lot of time with GA?" line... and thinking, how many of these AD's know what constitutes a great football coach? Don't they usually form a committee with knowledgeable/credible people to advise them? Eh.. maybe we're all over-scrutinizing an overly-enthusiastic, bubbly/naive response, mad by someone holding the office who just isn't qualified.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 16, 2016 22:38:59 GMT -8
Thank you, OA. It seems like her focus thusfar in her career has been diversity and women's athletics. it does make me wonder. I keep reading Baseba1111's "full of crap" (lol) post and the thing that jumps out at me is where he says "like Marianne has spent a lot of time with GA?" line... and thinking, how many of these AD's know what constitutes a great football coach? Don't they usually form a committee with knowledgeable/credible people to advise them? Eh.. maybe we're all over-scrutinizing an overly-enthusiastic, bubbly/naive response, mad by someone holding the office who just isn't qualified. I think you and Baseba11 hit the nail on the head. Reading the article, it sounds like a political response. I was thinking about sidetracking the article and mentioning that this type of quote is a bad sign. After reading the article, I think that this type of quote is a bad sign with regards to the AD search. I think that Vydra wants to remove the interim from her current job title and this is a shot across everyone else's bow. Stuff like that should stay out of the media.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 16, 2016 23:01:04 GMT -8
I'm sure it's fair to say the AD/admin has heard their fair share of complaints. Although this board represents a miniscule portion of Beaver fans, it's also fair to assume it probably represents the views of those fans that have the ear of those in charge. Some happy to give the process time, others that were leary from day one and become less patient each time significant progress seems a little too distant. When you add GA's early/consistent innuendos that demeaned the former staff and you hear national commentators insinuate the same about GA's tenure it naturally adds to the doubt.
So when an interim AD whose been mainly concerned with womens sports/issues gives such a glowing review sort of out of the blue, it might seem a little "forced" and for good reason.
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Post by beaver24 on Oct 17, 2016 6:55:07 GMT -8
Andersen during the pregame show with Mike Parker said that he thought OSU had the "toughest offseason training program" in the nation. I have no idea how he can justify that, but he doesn't sound like the kind of guy who would coach a team where only 5 guys can squat 500 lbs. only 5 guys sqaut 500 pounds? As if that is some easy feat.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 17, 2016 7:20:46 GMT -8
You are so full of crap. Marianne has been working with GA for 1.5 years - I'd say her opinion counts for more than someone who claims all of his insider info from talking to players at team hotels. Where is the quote from? Vydra has absolutely no football background. She was only working on the women's sports side until at least 2005. Team hotel telephone chatter aside, in my opinion, Baseba11 has shown that he is very knowledgeable about football. If he is saying one thing and Vydra is saying another about football, Baseba11's probably right. In law, in order to opine about something, you have to prove that you have the background and experience to support your opinion. I do not know why we should be listening to Vydra at all. For example, Vydra may be a very smart woman with a lot of experience in various sports, but that does not mean that I care to hear her opinion about how and why an RF resonant cavity thruster works. If you want to provide us with additional evidence as to why Vydra's opinion should actually matter in the least, I invite you to do so. Vydra's Bio in a nut shell: "In 1996 Vydra was promoted to Associate Athletic Director for Academic and Student Services, and in 1998 she became the Athletic Department's Senior Women's Administrator. By this time, Title IX had been fully implemented at Oregon State and was having a major impact on department operations. In particular, women's sports were receiving new or upgraded facilities, seeing increases in scholarships, and recruiting greater numbers of athletes. Vydra was heavily involved in a number of department initiatives throughout the first decades of the twenty-first century. In 2000 she was named Pac-10 Administrator of the Year for women's gymnastics, served as a member of the NCAA softball rules committee, and was also the NCAA's regional representative for women's volleyball, soccer and basketball. In 2002 she contributed to the initiative that led to the reinstatement of the women's track and cross country program at OSU, became a member of the Pac-10 Executive Committee, and began a term on the NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament Committee. From 2006 to 2008, she chaired the NCAA Division I Softball Committee, and in 2007 she raised funds to endow two scholarships for female athletes at OSU. Vydra also played a key role in creating the Beavers Without Borders international service project, a program that helps send OSU athletes to locations around the world to provide assistance to communities in need. In 2015 Vydra served as interim Director of Athletics, following the departure of former head Bob De Carolis. Now the Deputy Athletic Director of Administration, Vydra is the highest-ranking female administrator in the OSU Athletic Department." As OA and Wilky and others have said, Clearly Vydra has simply given a statement of support about our head football coach. She has no backing of experience that would convince me she knows what a good football coach looks like. And being objective, to say GA is the best Head Coach we have ever had is flat ridiculous. absolutely completely and utterly ridiculous. This was a political proclamation, exactly like you would expect her to do. We probably aren't gonna by him out... that is in the neighborhood of $10 million right now. Being vocally down on him makes recruiting hard. We are all in this boat together, might as well all row in the same direction.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 17, 2016 7:30:05 GMT -8
Hmmmm... like Marianne has spent a lot of time with GA? Lol... the last part sounds like politics. Maybe wants support for AD job. Cuz anyone in the ADs office that would say that after 1+ years compared to MRs tenure and reputation on campus loses all credibility. Sorry you think people who disagree belong on a separate board. Maybe you need to read your own post! As you then bring up MR in a demeaning way and yet that seems appropriate in complete contrast to your complaint? You are so full of crap. Marianne has been working with GA for 1.5 years - I'd say her opinion counts for more than someone who claims all of his insider info from talking to players at team hotels. I too have butt heads with baseba1111. He can definitely be confrontational. But he has also clearly shown he knows a thing or two about football. Sometimes it pays to read past perceived attitude on the board and analyze content. I will say this, at least baseba1111 provides content, regardless of how he presents it. Crapping on a post but providing nothing of substance in return isn't overly positive either. Lastly, I am not saying I necessarily believe baseball and the team hotel talk... but I have in the past talked to ALOT of players when I went back to school. in my experience, players have zero problems talking to any random Joe about a whole wide range of things related to football. I was always a huge fan of Brennan Olander. that guy was a crack up, had very strong opinions about what bowl game provided the best gift baskets, and yes, was probably dumb enough to buy a mountain bike off craigslist for $50 and think absolutely nothing of it... So I guess what I am saying, is it is that that improbable to be chatting up players. it is actually pretty easy.
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Post by nabeav on Oct 17, 2016 8:03:46 GMT -8
What is killing me right now is that there's another thread on this board where someone suggested that anti-GA people should leave this message board and find their own place to spew their opinions, but when a 20 year athletic department veteran voices support for GA, people are like "she doesn't know what she's talking about."
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Post by beavineugene on Oct 17, 2016 8:24:59 GMT -8
"... now that they have recruiting and strength conditioning back to where it was... they (Wisky) are close to where they were..." A not so subtle jab. And GA came here and pointed out how weak our players were and how they needed to get stronger (and they have). As pointed out in another post, Nebraska has commented how improved their players are under Riley's strength program. I am certainly not doing a bit a research on it, but I would bet you similar comments have recently been made at Miami. Next year you'll hear how much stronger LSU players are, etc etc etc.
It's almost as if when a new coach comes in that is a common theme. And maybe you read into the comment just a bit too much?
As for the comments regarding "best coach at OSU since 92" I noted that comment in a thread last week and mentioned it was no doubt premature. However, she is not only AD staff to praise GA and what he's doing here. He has the full backing of the AD. And contrary to all our opinions, they are employed by the OSU AD, and we are not. They have a bit more inside knowledge than any of us.
Another note...I believe you're one of the fans who was so pissed we showed no improvement over last year. Well, I am not sure what you've been watching the last two weeks but this team is improving, especially on defense! Obviously we have some issues at QB. But From Game 1 to game 6 there has been steady improvement. But, you've made up your mind regarding GA. So no sense in discussing that further.
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