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Post by joecool on Apr 26, 2024 19:33:37 GMT -8
No credit given tonight, go figure.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 26, 2024 19:37:00 GMT -8
No credit given tonight, go figure. He sucks, did you see when he let the starter stay in for 8 innings? |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 26, 2024 19:41:46 GMT -8
It's crazy how much better we are at Goss.
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Post by badwack on Apr 27, 2024 8:07:46 GMT -8
Just watching on TV but this time you could really see the crowd was really into game and there was a lot of positive energy. Real support. Of course May went lights out reminding everyone what Beav Fri. Night Starter ares suppose to look like.
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Post by ricke71 on Apr 27, 2024 8:17:28 GMT -8
No credit given tonight, go figure. Here's some: Last night, toward the end of his lengthy on-field interview after the game, May was asked about facing the Duck's in last years PAC-12 tournament championship vs. facing them in Goss tonight. He said (since then) "I've changed a lot as a pitcher" There ya go....Some of that "change" is surely due to the OSU Pitching Coach. Kudos! |
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Post by 56chevy on Apr 27, 2024 9:39:39 GMT -8
Just watching on TV but this time you could really see the crowd was really into game and there was a lot of positive energy. Real support. Of course May went lights out reminding everyone what Beav Fri. Night Starter ares suppose to look like. The energizing moment was when the home plate umpire came out to question May about a potential foreign substance being applied to the baseball. The Goss crowd this year has at times been less than the high energy supportive group of past years. Thank the Ucks and the Umps for the wake up call. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 29, 2024 14:53:25 GMT -8
Don't see alot of contact style pitching anywhere these days. I do agree that the defense needs to be better. Good OSU teams usually had less than 50 errors in the regular season. We already have 45 and if it doesn't clean up will finish the season averaging over an error per game. Maybe Wilky has a quick way to check but I don't think 60+ errors in a season correlates to good results and we are going to have that before conference play ends. Errors hurt for obvious reasons but they also affect pitching. If you induce contact and the defense flubs it multiple times you are going to feel alot more pressure to get strikes. That constricts your workable zone. It also blows your confidence to s%#t. Define "good." Errors at the end of the regular season: 2005 54
2006 55
2007 46
2008 52
2009 48
2010 58
2011 61
2012 53
2013 63
2014 47
2015 50
2016 59
2017 45
2018 42
2019 44
2021 352022 23
2023 362006 pretty good? 2013 pretty good? How about errors between games 39 & 40: 2005 482006 452007 312008 422009 372010 442011 402012 452013 462014 312015 362016 452017 342018 352019 322021 222022 172023 27
2024 45
Oregon State is in the exact same spot as 2006 in errors. One fewer error than 2013. And three fewer errors than 2005.
At this point, it is much more of a function of what happens after today than what has happened before today. 21 errors to finish the regular season derailed 2011. 2013 was able to hold it together even after committing 17 more errors to finish off the regular season. And errors were not the issue at the end of the 2013 season. 2018 started to look like champions at the end of the season with only seven errors after game 39. 2006 had 10 errors. 2007 posted 15 errors over the final 16 games as the season looked like it might implode. Seven errors in the past four games. 52 errors. Most errors at this point in the season since the 73 at this point in 2004. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 29, 2024 14:55:20 GMT -8
Not great.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 29, 2024 15:01:36 GMT -8
Define "good." Errors at the end of the regular season: 2005 54
2006 55
2007 46
2008 52
2009 48
2010 58
2011 61
2012 53
2013 63
2014 47
2015 50
2016 59
2017 45
2018 42
2019 44
2021 352022 23
2023 362006 pretty good? 2013 pretty good? How about errors between games 39 & 40: 2005 482006 452007 312008 422009 372010 442011 402012 452013 462014 312015 362016 452017 342018 352019 322021 222022 172023 27
2024 45
Oregon State is in the exact same spot as 2006 in errors. One fewer error than 2013. And three fewer errors than 2005.
At this point, it is much more of a function of what happens after today than what has happened before today. 21 errors to finish the regular season derailed 2011. 2013 was able to hold it together even after committing 17 more errors to finish off the regular season. And errors were not the issue at the end of the 2013 season. 2018 started to look like champions at the end of the season with only seven errors after game 39. 2006 had 10 errors. 2007 posted 15 errors over the final 16 games as the season looked like it might implode. Seven errors in the past four games. 52 errors. Most errors at this point in the season since the 73 at this point in 2004. And, even more key... double our opponents in Pac12 play!! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 29, 2024 15:14:56 GMT -8
Seven errors in the past four games. 52 errors. Most errors at this point in the season since the 73 at this point in 2004. And, even more key... double our opponents in Pac12 play!! Oregon State is playing worse in nonconference play, which is irregular. I mentioned before that the opponent stats make me think that 2024 is snakebit for some reason. Oregon State's Pac-12 opponents are playing the best defense against Oregon State since 2019. The time before that that opponents were playing this well against the Beavs was 2011, another snakebit year. Those are the only two Oregon State teams that have played better combined conference defenses in the past 25 seasons. The Beavs are not catching the breaks in Pac-12 games that they normally could count on |
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Post by nsh03 on Apr 30, 2024 6:58:04 GMT -8
And, even more key... double our opponents in Pac12 play!! Oregon State is playing worse in nonconference play, which is irregular. I mentioned before that the opponent stats make me think that 2024 is snakebit for some reason. Oregon State's Pac-12 opponents are playing the best defense against Oregon State since 2019. The time before that that opponents were playing this well against the Beavs was 2011, another snakebit year. Those are the only two Oregon State teams that have played better combined conference defenses in the past 25 seasons. The Beavs are not catching the breaks in Pac-12 games that they normally could count on How much of that is a failure to put balls in play, and a failure to put pressure on defenses stringing hits together and playing small ball? It doesn't seem like "three outcomes," which we've trended heavily toward this year, gives opposing defenses a whole lot of opportunities to shoot themselves in the foot. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 30, 2024 9:08:25 GMT -8
Oregon State is playing worse in nonconference play, which is irregular. I mentioned before that the opponent stats make me think that 2024 is snakebit for some reason. Oregon State's Pac-12 opponents are playing the best defense against Oregon State since 2019. The time before that that opponents were playing this well against the Beavs was 2011, another snakebit year. Those are the only two Oregon State teams that have played better combined conference defenses in the past 25 seasons. The Beavs are not catching the breaks in Pac-12 games that they normally could count on How much of that is a failure to put balls in play, and a failure to put pressure on defenses stringing hits together and playing small ball? It doesn't seem like "three outcomes," which we've trended heavily toward this year, gives opposing defenses a whole lot of opportunities to shoot themselves in the foot. Yep... as I posted (somewhere) when over 50% of your conference "outs" are Ks and flyouts there is far less opportunities for an E to be made. When the GO/FO ratio is below 1.00 the number of groundballs where (3) plays (generally... field, throw, catch) have to be executed are limited. In Pac12 play OSU's outs per game... Ks... 9.65 (193 in 20 g) Flyout... 7.75 (155 in 20 g) That's 17.4 outs every game where basically a ball just needs to caught. That's 64% of their possible outs (assuming batting in B9). Now others will try to justify by comparing to other teams. But, this is talking about OSU, and their inefficiency. One of the key assets of this team is speed and quickness. Putting the ball on the ground utilizing that puts pressure on the defenses. The lack of SBA is also surprising, as is H&R attempts. Every staff has their philosophy. Obviously moving runners, situational hitting is not what is stressed. MC's team his call. Yet, situational ball will essential vs better pitching. I think the fan frustration is that this should be a more complete offensive team. But, the early focus was mainly on HRs. This team needs a sweep this week. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 30, 2024 12:21:38 GMT -8
Oregon State is playing worse in nonconference play, which is irregular. I mentioned before that the opponent stats make me think that 2024 is snakebit for some reason. Oregon State's Pac-12 opponents are playing the best defense against Oregon State since 2019. The time before that that opponents were playing this well against the Beavs was 2011, another snakebit year. Those are the only two Oregon State teams that have played better combined conference defenses in the past 25 seasons. The Beavs are not catching the breaks in Pac-12 games that they normally could count on How much of that is a failure to put balls in play, and a failure to put pressure on defenses stringing hits together and playing small ball? It doesn't seem like "three outcomes," which we've trended heavily toward this year, gives opposing defenses a whole lot of opportunities to shoot themselves in the foot. 2024 Oregon State has so far had the most strikeouts/game of any team this century. But it does not sufficiently explain the delta. Compare this year and last year. Oregon State averaged 9.30 strikeouts/game in 2023 and 9.65 strikeouts/game in 2024. But Oregon State is actually generating more chances in 2024 than 2023, and it is not even close, about 7.92 chances (filtering out strikeouts) more per game this year over last year. Despite generating more chances, Pac-12 teams playing 2024 Oregon State are averaging almost 90% fewer errors/game than in 2023. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 30, 2024 12:24:21 GMT -8
How much of that is a failure to put balls in play, and a failure to put pressure on defenses stringing hits together and playing small ball? It doesn't seem like "three outcomes," which we've trended heavily toward this year, gives opposing defenses a whole lot of opportunities to shoot themselves in the foot. Yep... as I posted (somewhere) when over 50% of your conference "outs" are Ks and flyouts there is far less opportunities for an E to be made. When the GO/FO ratio is below 1.00 the number of groundballs where (3) plays (generally... field, throw, catch) have to be executed are limited. In Pac12 play OSU's outs per game... Ks... 9.65 (193 in 20 g) Flyout... 7.75 (155 in 20 g) That's 17.4 outs every game where basically a ball just needs to caught. That's 64% of their possible outs (assuming batting in B9). Now others will try to justify by comparing to other teams. But, this is talking about OSU, and their inefficiency. One of the key assets of this team is speed and quickness. Putting the ball on the ground utilizing that puts pressure on the defenses. The lack of SBA is also surprising, as is H&R attempts. Every staff has their philosophy. Obviously moving runners, situational hitting is not what is stressed. MC's team his call. Yet, situational ball will essential vs better pitching. I think the fan frustration is that this should be a more complete offensive team. But, the early focus was mainly on HRs. This team needs a sweep this week. Where are you finding GO and FO numbers? I am trying to figure out what the error and strikeout numbers mean. |
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Post by ricke71 on May 3, 2024 6:39:00 GMT -8
Eric Sorenson, D-1 BB, just now noted ( Off The Top Of My Head: Weekend 12 Preview) that: "We learned that pitching is still a major weakness in our sport - At the end of April now we now have only ten teams in Division I that sport an ERA under 4.00."
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