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Post by grayman on Jul 28, 2023 17:27:05 GMT -8
After much thought and deliberation:
"I have told your names to the Entmoot and we have agreed: you are not orcs."
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Post by sparty on Jul 28, 2023 18:16:19 GMT -8
After much thought and deliberation: "I have told your names to the Entmoot and we have agreed: you are not orcs." “Indeed I have not seen them roused like this for many an age. We Ents do not like being roused; and we never are roused unless it is clear to us that our trees and our lives are in great danger.” |
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Post by TheGlove on Jul 28, 2023 18:39:17 GMT -8
Buncha nerds up in here lately.
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Post by korculabeav on Jul 28, 2023 19:26:25 GMT -8
So what is the next big announcement?
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Post by fishwrapper on Jul 28, 2023 19:55:53 GMT -8
So what is the next big announcement? The next big announcement should be a TV deal. But don't hold your breath or you'll pass out...and miss hearing about the next defection. |
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Post by beaverdreams on Jul 28, 2023 20:18:08 GMT -8
For as much grief as many of you gave Larry Scott, and he deserved much of it, this new guy seems in way over his head. Feels like a deer in headlights last few months. Decisive actions needed never transpired.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 28, 2023 20:21:17 GMT -8
For as much grief as many of you gave Larry Scott, and he deserved much of it, this new guy seems in way over his head. Feels like a deer in headlights last few months. Decisive actions needed never transpired. Maybe, but you can’t squeeze blood from a turnip. If it ain’t there, it ain’t there. Might be time to emulate Billy Jo and Bobby Sue. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 28, 2023 22:03:20 GMT -8
For as much grief as many of you gave Larry Scott, and he deserved much of it, this new guy seems in way over his head. Feels like a deer in headlights last few months. Decisive actions needed never transpired. He tried to move on expansion when Texas and Oklahoma announced intentions to leave the Big 12. USC torpedoed it from the get go, then announced it's own backroom deal transfer out literally when recession fears were peaking. It's much more a matter of bad actors and decisions among the university presidents than Kliavkoff's fault. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 28, 2023 23:07:19 GMT -8
For as much grief as many of you gave Larry Scott, and he deserved much of it, this new guy seems in way over his head. Feels like a deer in headlights last few months. Decisive actions needed never transpired. He tried to move on expansion when Texas and Oklahoma announced intentions to leave the Big 12. USC torpedoed it from the get go, then announced it's own backroom deal transfer out literally when recession fears were peaking. It's much more a matter of bad actors and decisions among the university presidents than Kliavkoff's fault. But from what I hear Larry Scott kept his eyes on the prize. He knew that UCLA and USC were the beating heart of the conference, and he treated them like it. George K, on the other hand, seemed to not go out of his way to make sure that UCLA and USC were happy and got blindsided by all of this, specifically because he was not communicating with UCLA and USC enough. Larry Scott got paid a lot and spent a lot, perhaps frivolously, but I think that several people underestimated his value. Larry Scott may not have left George K in a perfect spot, but Scott kept UCLA and USC in line. George K underwhelmed me from the very beginning. Just read his interviews. He never got it. And I am worried that he still does not get it. Franklin Pierce may not have left James Buchanan in the best spot, but Buchanan still butchered the bad hand that he was dealt. I very much fear that George K is Buchanan. I sincerely hope that he is better, though. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 28, 2023 23:52:49 GMT -8
Kliavkoff assumed the role of commissioner on July first 2021. By August of that year he put together a committee of 3 presidents and 3 athletic directors to look into expansion because he was getting inquiries from Big 12 teams wanting to come to the Pac 12. USC President Carol Folt was on that committee and they set up a zoom call and she shut it down within 15 minutes. There’s speculation now she was already looking to get out. Was he supposed to be kissing her butt day 1? Just how did he go out of his way to avoid UCLA and USC?
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Post by gotmilk on Jul 29, 2023 4:16:24 GMT -8
Don’t know anything that goes on behind closed doors. Just saying on George’s watch our conference looks like idiots. On Larry Scott’s watch our conference looked like idiots. The only common denominator is a bunch of schools that think they’re too good for, Texas, too good for the Big 12 conference that will now maybe accept only a handful of our schools. And we’re praying we can get a steaming deal that includes midweek games and hopefully attract Fresno. Well played pac 9,
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Post by speakthetruth on Jul 29, 2023 5:35:33 GMT -8
Don’t know anything that goes on behind closed doors. Just saying on George’s watch our conference looks like idiots. On Larry Scott’s watch our conference looked like idiots. The only common denominator is a bunch of schools that think they’re too good for, Texas, too good for the Big 12 conference that will now maybe accept only a handful of our schools. And we’re praying we can get a steaming deal that includes midweek games and hopefully attract Fresno. Well played pac 9, So in a nutshell we look like diots. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 29, 2023 6:05:35 GMT -8
What we really need is Oregon and UW to vocalize their commitment to the conference as the Beavs did. That would go a long way in settling things.
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Post by gotmilk on Jul 29, 2023 8:06:42 GMT -8
Don’t know anything that goes on behind closed doors. Just saying on George’s watch our conference looks like idiots. On Larry Scott’s watch our conference looked like idiots. The only common denominator is a bunch of schools that think they’re too good for, Texas, too good for the Big 12 conference that will now maybe accept only a handful of our schools. And we’re praying we can get a steaming deal that includes midweek games and hopefully attract Fresno. Well played pac 9, So in a nutshell we look like diots. Hopefully spelled better. But you get it |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jul 29, 2023 8:17:38 GMT -8
He tried to move on expansion when Texas and Oklahoma announced intentions to leave the Big 12. USC torpedoed it from the get go, then announced it's own backroom deal transfer out literally when recession fears were peaking. It's much more a matter of bad actors and decisions among the university presidents than Kliavkoff's fault. But from what I hear Larry Scott kept his eyes on the prize. He knew that UCLA and USC were the beating heart of the conference, and he treated them like it. George K, on the other hand, seemed to not go out of his way to make sure that UCLA and USC were happy and got blindsided by all of this, specifically because he was not communicating with UCLA and USC enough. Larry Scott got paid a lot and spent a lot, perhaps frivolously, but I think that several people underestimated his value. Larry Scott may not have left George K in a perfect spot, but Scott kept UCLA and USC in line. George K underwhelmed me from the very beginning. Just read his interviews. He never got it. And I am worried that he still does not get it. Franklin Pierce may not have left James Buchanan in the best spot, but Buchanan still butchered the bad hand that he was dealt. I very much fear that George K is Buchanan. I sincerely hope that he is better, though. While everyone likes a good ass kiss, everyone likes 40 to 50 million a year a lot more. There was nothing George could do to get them to stay. They didn’t even ask him for anything. Time zones and population centers drove that decision, not George’s inability kiss butt to your satisfaction. |
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