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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 28, 2023 9:59:56 GMT -8
Looking back, what if the Pac 12 had hired the now Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark instead of George K. Would we be in the position we are in now. Yormark has been super aggressive and time will tell whether he crashes and burns or not but any plan is better than no plan. Gen. Patton said a good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed next week In theory Yormark "might" have been more persuasive or aggressive in dealing with the Presidents, if not we'd still be in the same situation. The Presidents have quashed expansion plans repeatedly.
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 28, 2023 10:22:26 GMT -8
It is my understanding the MWC fees have zero to do with their media contract. It is a conference SOP and part of being a member, not dependent of what the media deal is... Hence the Pac12 media deal has nothing to do if the Pac12 has a exit SOP and fee structure.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 28, 2023 11:11:55 GMT -8
It is my understanding the MWC fees have zero to do with their media contract. It is a conference SOP and part of being a member, not dependent of what the media deal is... Hence the Pac12 media deal has nothing to do if the Pac12 has a exit SOP and fee structure. I can't help but wonder if untethering buyout windows from media deal time frames would be much better. For example, set a flat buyout rate that makes it sting to leave, then end that buyout window 6/8/12 months AFTER the media deals are finalized. Right now we've got schools panicking and leaving because of the uncertainty of the next deal. That essentially is killing the league AND hurting the next deal, all based on uncertain speculation. Perhaps they should say "we're going to do 6-7 year TV deals BUT our buyout fees end a certain period of time AFTER the deal is done. That way the media has a pretty good idea of how many schools are actually going to be in the league, and the schools have an idea of how much they're actually walking away from if switching leagues is all about money. I'd think there'd be an incentive for both parties to maintain or grow the number of schools in the league and come up with a satisfactory media deal. As it currently stands, the media companies really don't know how many schools they're dealing with, and schools are moving simply out of paranoia over the uncertainty ofvthe next deal... not a good negotiating scenario.
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Post by beavaristotle on Jul 28, 2023 11:18:59 GMT -8
It is my understanding the MWC fees have zero to do with their media contract. It is a conference SOP and part of being a member, not dependent of what the media deal is... Hence the Pac12 media deal has nothing to do if the Pac12 has a exit SOP and fee structure. I can't help but wonder if untethering buyout windows from media deal time frames would be much better. For example, set a flat buyout rate that makes it sting to leave, then end that buyout window 6/8/12 months AFTER the media deals are finalized. Right now we've got schools panicking and leaving because of the uncertainty of the next deal. That essentially is killing the league AND hurting the next deal, all based on uncertain speculation. Perhaps they should say "we're going to do 6-7 year TV deals BUT our buyout fees end a certain period of time AFTER the deal is done. That way the media has a pretty good idea of how many schools are actually going to be in the league, and the schools have an idea of how much they're actually walking away from if switching leagues is all about money. I'd think there'd be an incentive for both parties to maintain or grow the number of schools in the league and come up with a satisfactory media deal. As it currently stands, the media companies really don't know how many schools they're dealing with, and schools are moving simply out of paranoia over the uncertainty ofvthe next deal... not a good negotiating scenario. never work, too logical
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Post by korculabeav on Jul 28, 2023 19:34:46 GMT -8
Let CU go. Their football program is a bigger $hit sandwich than where OSU was at when GAG went mental and left $12M on the table (idiot).
Colorado State is a better program than CU snd that is bad.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Jul 28, 2023 19:49:49 GMT -8
Let CU go. Their football program is a bigger $hit sandwich than where OSU was at when GAG went mental and left $12M on the table (idiot). Colorado State is a better program than CU snd that is bad. Besides that, "Ralphie" is a heifer........
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