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Post by beaverology on Dec 27, 2022 8:40:29 GMT -8
I think Beaver fans need to accept that:
A) WT is gonna be here for 3 more years.
B) This team is young and will need time to grow.
C) Youngsters could be an NCAA tournament team in 2025.
D) You don't want to wait? WSU hasn't been to March NCAA since 2008.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 27, 2022 10:00:42 GMT -8
I think Beaver fans need to accept that: A) WT is gonna be here for 3 more years. B) This team is young and will need time to grow. C) Youngsters could be an NCAA tournament team in 2025. D) You don't want to wait? WSU hasn't been to March NCAA since 2008. Washington hasn’t been piling up NCAA visits since Tinkle was hired either. Neither has Stanford. Neither has Utah. Neither has California. Colorado and ASU got there Tinkle’s first year but only twice since. Basically, UA, USC, UCLA and uo have been the only teams to the NCAA tournament more than twice in the time Tinkle’s taken the Beavers there twice… and at least a couple of those have had cheating scandals in that time. If OSU fans want to get OSU to the NCAAs as often as those 4 teams, OSU should be prepared to either pony up matching budgets or cheat I guess. |
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Post by 86BEAVER on Dec 27, 2022 11:05:59 GMT -8
Hope at least one of Tinkle's "peeps" reads the boards and lets him know how restless the natives are getting.
That way when the 2-4K stop showing up out of apathy (or die off due to advancing age) and the fact that MBB at OSU has been turned into little more than a club sport over the years and they start planning winter vacations between now successfl football and baseball teams, he won't be caught off guard.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 29, 2022 7:25:24 GMT -8
Fordham opened it's A-10 season last night, against Davidson, one of the few real teams it has played this season. It lost by 14.
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Post by beaverology on Dec 29, 2022 8:27:35 GMT -8
"Hope at least one of Tinkle's "peeps" reads the boards and lets him know how restless the natives are getting.
That way when the 2-4K stop showing up out of apathy (or die off due to advancing age) and the fact that MBB at OSU has been turned into little more than a club sport over the years and they start planning winter vacations between now successfl football and baseball teams, he won't be caught off guard."
Once the old guard goes away, there won't be anybody to take their place. Millennial's and Gen Z don't want to attend sporting games in person. Why do you think OSU downsized the rebuild of westside Reser? Trying to blame WT for this 20 year trend in the making is a non-starter.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Dec 29, 2022 8:43:07 GMT -8
"Hope at least one of Tinkle's "peeps" reads the boards and lets him know how restless the natives are getting. That way when the 2-4K stop showing up out of apathy (or die off due to advancing age) and the fact that MBB at OSU has been turned into little more than a club sport over the years and they start planning winter vacations between now successfl football and baseball teams, he won't be caught off guard." Once the old guard goes away, there won't be anybody to take their place. Millennial's and Gen Z don't want to attend sporting games in person. Why do you think OSU downsized the rebuild of westside Reser? Trying to blame WT for this 20 year trend in the making is a non-starter. Another thing that's millenials fault. Man we are something else. |
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Post by beaverology on Dec 29, 2022 9:11:27 GMT -8
This is another Benny House Classic:
From 1991 thru 2014, the Beaver's MBB team had 2 winning seasons. TWO !!
WT has had 5 winning seasons. He's taken the team to 2 NCAA tournaments.
His team won the Pac12 tournament for the first time.
The team won a NCAA for first time in 40 years!
....and it's "WT killed the attendance at Gill"
How do you discuss Beaver sports with people detached from reality?
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 29, 2022 9:29:20 GMT -8
"Hope at least one of Tinkle's "peeps" reads the boards and lets him know how restless the natives are getting. That way when the 2-4K stop showing up out of apathy (or die off due to advancing age) and the fact that MBB at OSU has been turned into little more than a club sport over the years and they start planning winter vacations between now successfl football and baseball teams, he won't be caught off guard." Once the old guard goes away, there won't be anybody to take their place. Millennial's and Gen Z don't want to attend sporting games in person. Why do you think OSU downsized the rebuild of westside Reser? Trying to blame WT for this 20 year trend in the making is a non-starter. Another thing that's millenials fault. Man we are something else. That was also posted by the guy that posted the same post 2 days ago. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 29, 2022 9:39:50 GMT -8
This is another Benny House Classic: From 1991 thru 2014, the Beaver's MBB team had 2 winning seasons. TWO !! WT has had 5 winning seasons. He's taken the team to 2 NCAA tournaments. His team won the Pac12 tournament for the first time. The team won a NCAA for first time in 40 years! ....and it's "WT killed the attendance at Gill" How do you discuss Beaver sports with people detached from reality? And with all that tinkle has a 36% pac12 record. Hard to gain momentum with one step forward two steps back. |
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Post by beaverology on Dec 29, 2022 9:50:07 GMT -8
But you loved the momentum of 2 winning seasons between 1991 and 2014 with no NCAA appearances and bottom feeding in the Pac12? Was that 2 steps forward and 1 back? lolz
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 29, 2022 9:59:19 GMT -8
Don't like any of it. Unlike some I don't have a love affair with a coach that has losing records overall and pac12. Unfortunately we are hamstrung with a contract. But if you are happy with winning 1/3 of league games then party on.
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 29, 2022 10:33:05 GMT -8
I have a question. If tinkle is So much better than 25 years of coaching before him why can't there be a coach that's better than him? Some of you seem to think since its better than it was then its the best we can do.
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Post by beaverology on Dec 29, 2022 10:37:05 GMT -8
In MBB, we have one peer group, it's WSU. Every other school has significant advantages over OSU in education, money, MBB tradition, NIL, under the table bribes, location and the ability to recruit 4 and 5 star kids. OSU has none of that.
People who want an in-conference winning record aren't being realistic.
With USC and UCLA leaving, the conference record will get better.
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 29, 2022 10:54:33 GMT -8
In MBB, we have one peer group, it's WSU. Every other school has significant advantages over OSU in education, money, MBB tradition, NIL, under the table bribes, location and the ability to recruit 4 and 5 star kids. OSU has none of that. People who want an in-conference winning record aren't being realistic. With USC and UCLA leaving, the conference record will get better. How about a winning overall record? There must be more Bushnells out there. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 29, 2022 11:44:51 GMT -8
In MBB, we have one peer group, it's WSU. Every other school has significant advantages over OSU in education, money, MBB tradition, NIL, under the table bribes, location and the ability to recruit 4 and 5 star kids. OSU has none of that. People who want an in-conference winning record aren't being realistic. With USC and UCLA leaving, the conference record will get better. How about a winning overall record? There must be more Bushnells out there. There are no Bushnells in the Pac 12. Us and WSU would be them I guess. As far as overall record goes, there were 2 very bad seasons that put his record 47 games in the hole. The first was basically out of his control, set up by a couple years of poor recruiting results before he got here and being hired after recruiting season had ended, his 3rd season here had no recruits from the previous coach and the “experienced” kids (those who could play…injuries) only had 1 year under their belts. The second bad season was basically on him. Anyway, 47 games in the hole is a lot to make up.. he could go 5 games above even for the foreseeable future and you could still gripe because you are focusing on the easiest metric that would be making him look bad.. the Riley haters did that for years even while his teams were going to bowls and winning them. There are things to gripe about, but the overall winning record is a slanted one. Nuclear actually started this thread griping about his teams having had a lack of offensive play running… that’s legit. I’d add his teams have typically had difficulties with breaking the press and getting the ball inbounds in a timely fashion. Interestingly enough, most of those complaints did not apply to the second half of the Elite 8 year, so unless he just changed his whole offensive strategy for 3 months (which almost seems like it did happen) there’s a different issue. He had two very bad years, the rest have been seasons most fans here could only dream of for the better part of two and a half decades. I don’t want to see last year ever happen again. I’ll chalk it up to poor recruiting decisions due to no in person contact because of Covid, unless it happens again. For now, there’s a season to play, one of the youngest college teams in the US is showing heart and flashes of playing well, no real need for negativity right now. |
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