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Post by korculabeav on Sept 27, 2024 9:03:50 GMT -8
I surmise several months will pass before we see the next move. That next move could be the Big 12 trying to make a land grab for the AZ schools, Utah, Air Force, BYU, etc. Wondering if OSU takes a proactive risk in allying with WSU and approach the Big 12 to join. Both schools can bring a broad Oregon-Washington TV market with them.probably all they have to offer. Pac 12 is sinking and it may be OSU’s only card to play before they get left behind in a few years.. OSU needs a life preserver. Unfortunately, our best option is our Friends to the South. Maintains our in State rivalry and continuity of the Oregon television market. With that being said, it would still be a tough sell. Several people have posted in recent months regretting OSU didn't take matters into its own hands when the conference started unravelling in the summer 2022. Funny.....I (amongst others) floated the above idea about taking ourselves (and maybe WSU) and go on the offensive, approach the Big 12 for membership before the Pac 12 completely sank. Well, we didn't and waited for a life preserver to come to us that never came. Maybe the Big 12 would have would have said no but I bet our chances to have gotten into the Big 12 would have been higher than then than later. We will never know now.....missed opportunity by S Scott Barnes. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 27, 2024 9:05:04 GMT -8
If the PAC-12 is sinking, tying one anchor to another anchor isn’t the best idea. OSU needs a life preserver. Unfortunately, our best option is our Friends to the South. Maintains our in State rivalry and continuity of the Oregon television market. With that being said, it would still be a tough sell. Several people have posted in recent months regretting OSU didn't take matters into its own hands when the conference started unravelling in the summer 2022. Funny.....I (amongst others) floated the above idea about taking ourselves (and maybe WSU) and go on the offensive, approach the Big 12 for membership before the Pac 12 completely sank. Well, we didn't and waited for a life preserver to come to us that never came. Maybe the Big 12 would have would have said no but I bet our chances to have gotten into the Big 12 would have been higher than then than later. We will never know now.....missed opportunity by S Scott Barnes. And how do you know we didn't try this? Answer: you don't |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 27, 2024 9:08:31 GMT -8
Several people have posted in recent months regretting OSU didn't take matters into its own hands when the conference started unravelling in the summer 2022. Funny.....I (amongst others) floated the above idea about taking ourselves (and maybe WSU) and go on the offensive, approach the Big 12 for membership before the Pac 12 completely sank. Well, we didn't and waited for a life preserver to come to us that never came. Maybe the Big 12 would have would have said no but I bet our chances to have gotten into the Big 12 would have been higher than then than later. We will never know now.....missed opportunity by S Scott Barnes. And how do you know we didn't try this? Answer: you don't Thanks for putting words in my mouth, your honor. I don't disagree. It is interesting the brain trust cohort of us (very much myself included) on this website were all coaxed into a sense of complacency that 1) the conference wouldn't collapse and 2) OSU would endure into some P4-5 conference. I bet if OSU had truly tried what is suggested above, it would have surfaced in the media somewhere from either the Big 12 side or somewhere here. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 27, 2024 9:17:07 GMT -8
I think the Big 12 leaders are smart enough to realize that if OSU and WSU were thinking about bailing and approaching them for a spot in the conference, much bigger and more regionally-located programs would then be available as well. Which is exactly what happened.
Stanford and Cal didn't get an invite. Geography played a huge role in the Big 132's decisions, and unfortunately, we (and Wazzu) are located well outside of their preferred footprint.
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 27, 2024 9:20:27 GMT -8
I think the Big 12 leaders are smart enough to realize that if OSU and WSU were thinking about bailing and approaching them for a spot in the conference, much bigger and more regionally-located programs would then be available as well. Which is exactly what happened. Stanford and Cal didn't get an invite. Geography played a huge role in the Big 132's decisions, and unfortunately, we (and Wazzu) are located well outside of their preferred footprint. Good point HS. The one thing that might have happened had OSU/WSU approached the Big 12 first was selling the concept that OSU/WSU brought TV markets in the Pacific Time Zone to that conference. Something that didn't exist pre-alignment at the time. The Big 12 might have bitten on that. Especially bringing the Seattle and Portland TV markets to their conference. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Sept 27, 2024 9:30:39 GMT -8
I think the Big 12 leaders are smart enough to realize that if OSU and WSU were thinking about bailing and approaching them for a spot in the conference, much bigger and more regionally-located programs would then be available as well. Which is exactly what happened. Stanford and Cal didn't get an invite. Geography played a huge role in the Big 132's decisions, and unfortunately, we (and Wazzu) are located well outside of their preferred footprint. Good point HS. The one thing that might have happened had OSU/WSU approached the Big 12 first was selling the concept that OSU/WSU brought TV markets in the Pacific Time Zone to that conference. Something that didn't exist pre-alignment at the time. The Big 12 might have bitten on that. Especially bringing the Seattle and Portland TV markets to their conference. I think you are just wrong. their were twitter rumors that OSU was first to approach the Big12 (keeping in mind that the Big12 had approached the 4 corners almost the day of USC and UCLA leaving). OSU was told 'not interested', not interested then, a year later, or now. Stop being a sidewalk superintendent. If you don't have the experience, the training and the set of plans and specs, are attending the daily schedule meetings, weekly owner meetings, etc. then IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AT A CONTRUCTION SITE, or in this case, conference re-alignment. Let it go brother. |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 27, 2024 9:33:49 GMT -8
Good point HS. The one thing that might have happened had OSU/WSU approached the Big 12 first was selling the concept that OSU/WSU brought TV markets in the Pacific Time Zone to that conference. Something that didn't exist pre-alignment at the time. The Big 12 might have bitten on that. Especially bringing the Seattle and Portland TV markets to their conference. I think you are just wrong. their were twitter rumors that OSU was first to approach the Big12 (keeping in mind that the Big12 had approached the 4 corners almost the day of USC and UCLA leaving). OSU was told 'not interested', not interested then, a year later, or now. Stop being a sidewalk superintendent. If you don't have the experience, the training and the set of plans and specs, are attending the daily schedule meetings, weekly owner meetings, etc. then IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AT A CONTRUCTION SITE, or in this case, conference re-alignment. Let it go brother. Ok OSU CEM grad...thanks for that wisdom. And please remeber the notion to "criticize the opinion, not the poster". If I or anyone want to push a conversation out, whether it has conjecture or not, that is appropriate on a CHAT BOARD. It it what goes on on here, Cougfan,com, Blitz, Hole websites, Dawgman and everywhere else. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Sept 27, 2024 9:41:03 GMT -8
I think you are just wrong. their were twitter rumors that OSU was first to approach the Big12 (keeping in mind that the Big12 had approached the 4 corners almost the day of USC and UCLA leaving). OSU was told 'not interested', not interested then, a year later, or now. Stop being a sidewalk superintendent. If you don't have the experience, the training and the set of plans and specs, are attending the daily schedule meetings, weekly owner meetings, etc. then IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AT A CONTRUCTION SITE, or in this case, conference re-alignment. Let it go brother. Ok OSU CEM grad...thanks for that wisdom. And please remeber the notion to "criticize the opinion, not the poster". If I or anyone want to push a conversation out, whether it has conjecture or not, that is appropriate on a CHAT BOARD. It it what goes on on here, Cougfan,com, Blitz, Hole websites, Dawgman and everywhere else. If you can criticize the OSU administration based on fantasies, I can point out why that is a bad idea, something that also happens on every fan message board in the world. Also, not CEM, I actually took some hard classes in Engineering. |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 27, 2024 10:10:02 GMT -8
Ok OSU CEM grad...thanks for that wisdom. And please remeber the notion to "criticize the opinion, not the poster". If I or anyone want to push a conversation out, whether it has conjecture or not, that is appropriate on a CHAT BOARD. It it what goes on on here, Cougfan,com, Blitz, Hole websites, Dawgman and everywhere else. If you can criticize the OSU administration based on fantasies, I can point out why that is a bad idea, something that also happens on every fan message board in the world. Also, not CEM, I actually took some hard classes in Engineering. We both probably agree that thermodynamics was a b*tch. |
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