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Post by ag87 on Jul 2, 2022 10:08:10 GMT -8
Hawaii does not have nice football facilities. They are playing at a field that holds about 10k fans. Aloha stadium is no more. According to Wikipedia The New Aloha Stadium is a proposed 35,000-seat multi-purpose stadium to be built in Halawa, Hawaii for the Hawaii Rainbow Warriors football program, starting in Fall 2023. The area around the stadium will also include entertainment venues, retail stores, restaurants, housing, hotels, recreational sites, cultural amenities, and green space. It will replace, and be constructed on the site of, the current Aloha Stadium. It's Hawaii. I don't think they have funding locked in or permits. Someday, it's probable, that there will be another stadium. It's likely within my children's lifetime. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 2, 2022 10:08:11 GMT -8
What if we add San Diego State, UNLV, Colorado State, and Hawaii? That would be the pac-14. All large colleges with good academics, large enrollment, and nice football facilities. Hawaii sucks. Broke, tremendous travel costs on everyone to get there. Colorado would blackball CSU. SDSU, for a SoCal presence, and UNLV, a stake in one of the fastest-growing metro area in the US, and a fun place to go for a football/baseball weekend. Keeps the league's footprint intact, and SDSU and UNLV already have an existing history from the MWC. Stay at 12. We're going to probably have a smaller, or same size, TV contract. No need to add two more fingers to the revenue-sharing pie. Colorado won't approve CSU. Cal and Stanford will hold their nose and approve SDSU, because they have no choice. We need a SoCal presence. |
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Post by castorcanadensis on Jul 2, 2022 10:08:24 GMT -8
So all 4 schools I suggest have new or will have new stadiums between 35k and 65k seats. Also adding more eyes in Colorado, keeping eyes in California, and adding the Vegas market.
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Post by castorcanadensis on Jul 2, 2022 10:10:10 GMT -8
According to Wikipedia The New Aloha Stadium is a proposed 35,000-seat multi-purpose stadium to be built in Halawa, Hawaii for the Hawaii Rainbow Warriors football program, starting in Fall 2023. The area around the stadium will also include entertainment venues, retail stores, restaurants, housing, hotels, recreational sites, cultural amenities, and green space. It will replace, and be constructed on the site of, the current Aloha Stadium. It's Hawaii. I don't think they have funding locked in or permits. Someday, it's probable, that there will be another stadium. It's likely within my children's lifetime. Well tie there entrance into the conference with the new stadium. The TV money will help. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 2, 2022 10:12:48 GMT -8
It's Hawaii. I don't think they have funding locked in or permits. Someday, it's probable, that there will be another stadium. It's likely within my children's lifetime. Well tie there entrance into the conference with the new stadium. The TV money will help. [b It’s a government issue, not a TV money issue. The new stadium will likely never get built. |
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Post by ag87 on Jul 2, 2022 10:26:47 GMT -8
Because I was curious, I looked these up. Living alumni: UCLA 476K, USC 437K, Long Beach State 320K, San Diego State soon 500K (couldn't find a better number), Oregon State 202K.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jul 2, 2022 10:59:01 GMT -8
Because I was curious, I looked these up. Living alumni: UCLA 476K, USC 437K, Long Beach State 320K, San Diego State soon 500K (couldn't find a better number), Oregon State 202K. That's crazy....I would've thought we'd have had similar numbers. We have more than hole, right? |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 2, 2022 11:29:26 GMT -8
Because I was curious, I looked these up. Living alumni: UCLA 476K, USC 437K, Long Beach State 320K, San Diego State soon 500K (couldn't find a better number), Oregon State 202K. That's crazy....I would've thought we'd have had similar numbers. We have more than hole, right? Probably not. We have had similar admission numbers forever and UP graduation rate hovers 3-7% higher year to year. Not sure on life span by alumni base. |
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Post by ag87 on Jul 2, 2022 11:32:14 GMT -8
Because I was curious, I looked these up. Living alumni: UCLA 476K, USC 437K, Long Beach State 320K, San Diego State soon 500K (couldn't find a better number), Oregon State 202K. That's crazy....I would've thought we'd have had similar numbers. We have more than hole, right? tsdtr - 195K |
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Post by larbeav on Jul 2, 2022 14:34:03 GMT -8
The LA Times is reporting the Big Ten is done, for now. So we can expect the remaining ten schools to stay together as a conference for now, because in reality they have no other option. And what remains is still pretty formidable, despite the "sky is falling" rhetoric I'm reading here. 1. Even without LA, if the Pac-10 stays together it will have the country's #6 (Bay Area), # 11 (Phoenix), # 12 (Seattle), # 16 (Denver), # 21 (Portland), #30 (SLC), and # 64 (Tucson) TV markets. 2. Expand to UNLV and SDSU. That adds the # 27 (San Diego) and # 40 (Vegas) markets. And both of those areas are growing like gangbusters. They have baseball and softball, programs we need since we are losing the Bruins in both and SC in baseball. 3. Get a new TV contract. Yes, we don't have as much leverage without the # 2 market. Duh, that hurt big-time. But we still have six of the country's top 30 markets, in ears that are growing, unlike some (for now) larger Rust Belt markets like Detroit, Cleveland and Pittsburgh, and Midwest dead zones like Indianapolis and St. Louis. 4. Make USC and UCLA ineligible for conference postseason play and automatic NCAA berths. They are too valuable to bestow on traitors. If they get in at-large, so be it. But do not facilitate anything that helps them. No Pac-12 basketball, baseball or softball tournament. Their individuals can compete in post-season competition like the swimming, cross country and track meets, but they cannot win a team title. 5. Reach out to the University of Denver about affiliate status in soccer and gymnastics, programs the Pios excel in. We'll need a 6th men's soccer program to maintain an automatic NCAA berth. Denver fills that need (SDSU already has affiliate status). 6. Don't panic. Concern, yes. But don't panic. Let the dust settle. The remaining 10 presidents need to make it clear the Pac-whatever will continue as a viable entity. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 2, 2022 17:19:04 GMT -8
That's crazy....I would've thought we'd have had similar numbers. We have more than hole, right? tsdtr - 195K OSU's enrollment historically hovered around 13-18K until President Ray led a huge enrollment drive in the 2000s. Corvallis NIMBYs were outraged because they thought enrollment when the state had nearly 4 million residents should be the same as when it had 1.8 million residents. Ray stuck to his guns, on-campus enrollment soared to near 25K and thousands of in-state kids got the same educational opportunity as their parents. |
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Post by bvrbred on Jul 3, 2022 6:32:56 GMT -8
Correct. Oregon State's enrollment had been flat, in the 16,000 - 18,000 range from when I went there (1970) until about 2000. 30 years! 30,000+ enrollment has been quite recent.
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Post by four2itus on Jul 5, 2022 12:21:01 GMT -8
I'll tell you what's next......
Putting my Beavers flag up, rooting like hell every time they play, and acquiring a new hatred for for those wh*res from southern Cali.
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Post by cake on Jul 5, 2022 17:10:31 GMT -8
I don't hate the idea of inviting Long Beach and helping them start a football program. hmmm. I had not considered that. Could be interesting. Whatever keeps baseball good. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 5, 2022 17:16:11 GMT -8
Investing millions of already-limited conference rights money to help Long Beach restart its failed football program benefits nobody in the Pac-whatever.
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