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Post by grackle on Apr 10, 2021 7:07:58 GMT -8
My take, and I know I'm going to take flack here for this: I like MC's general demeanor, but I'm seriously beginning to wonder about this coaching staff's acuity for college ball.
IMO, since MC took over there are just too many examples of questionable lineups and flawed in-game decisions. And last night was one of most blatant misuse of a college coaching staff I can recall ever seeing -- MC leaves his best arms (e.g., Mully, Verberg) on the bench for the huge 8th-9th inning end-game windup. Instead, he brings in a relatively untested guy with a close-to 4.0 ERA. The kid can't really get anybody out and we blow probably the most important game thus far in our PAC12 season. What the hell??
I really don't expect decisions from MC's staff to get much better in the coming weeks. Mitch may have been an OK minor league pro-manager, but (IMO) there's just no substitute for previous experience coaching at the college level.
I seriously hope I'm way off base here. And I'm sure many of you will let me know about that...but that's my opinion.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 10, 2021 7:20:17 GMT -8
My take, and I know I'm going to take flack here for this: I like MC's general demeanor, but I'm seriously beginning to wonder about this coaching staff's acuity for college ball. IMO, since MC took over there are just too many examples of questionable lineups and flawed in-game decisions. And last night was one of most blatant misuse of a college coaching staff I can recall ever seeing -- MC leaves his best arms (e.g., Mully, Verberg) on the bench for the huge 8th-9th inning end-game windup. Instead, he brings in a relatively untested guy with a close-to 4.0 ERA. The kid can't really get anybody out and we blow probably the most important game thus far in our PAC12 season. What the hell?? I really don't expect decisions from MC's staff to get much better in the coming weeks. Mitch may have been an OK minor league pro-manager, but (IMO) there's just no substitute for previous experience coaching at the college level. I seriously hope I'm way off base here. And I'm sure many of you will let me know about that...but that's my opinion.  |
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Post by grackle on Apr 10, 2021 7:41:24 GMT -8
My take, and I know I'm going to take flack here for this: I like MC's general demeanor, but I'm seriously beginning to wonder about this coaching staff's acuity for college ball. IMO, since MC took over there are just too many examples of questionable lineups and flawed in-game decisions. And last night was one of most blatant misuse of a college coaching staff I can recall ever seeing -- MC leaves his best arms (e.g., Mully, Verberg) on the bench for the huge 8th-9th inning end-game windup. Instead, he brings in a relatively untested guy with a close-to 4.0 ERA. The kid can't really get anybody out and we blow probably the most important game thus far in our PAC12 season. What the hell?? I really don't expect decisions from MC's staff to get much better in the coming weeks. Mitch may have been an OK minor league pro-manager, but (IMO) there's just no substitute for previous experience coaching at the college level. I seriously hope I'm way off base here. And I'm sure many of you will let me know about that...but that's my opinion. Is that such a bad thing?? Sometimes the pot needs stirring. |
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Post by badwack on Apr 10, 2021 8:13:52 GMT -8
I really don't want to be bashing anyone or a kid but one thing I do question is the intensity of some of these kids. I could be way off but coaching Pro's might be quite different that developing younger kids. Some look like they are rather ho hum with Bats in their hands. Even with runners on! Hit the damn ball somehow somewhere! There are only about 3 that walk up there looking like they are ready to hit and intend on doing just that. Just saying......
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Post by beavheart on Apr 10, 2021 8:24:19 GMT -8
My take, and I know I'm going to take flack here for this: I like MC's general demeanor, but I'm seriously beginning to wonder about this coaching staff's acuity for college ball. IMO, since MC took over there are just too many examples of questionable lineups and flawed in-game decisions. And last night was one of most blatant misuse of a college coaching staff I can recall ever seeing -- MC leaves his best arms (e.g., Mully, Verberg) on the bench for the huge 8th-9th inning end-game windup. Instead, he brings in a relatively untested guy with a close-to 4.0 ERA. The kid can't really get anybody out and we blow probably the most important game thus far in our PAC12 season. What the hell?? I really don't expect decisions from MC's staff to get much better in the coming weeks. Mitch may have been an OK minor league pro-manager, but (IMO) there's just no substitute for previous experience coaching at the college level. I seriously hope I'm way off base here. And I'm sure many of you will let me know about that...but that's my opinion. I haven't watched a ton of games this year so I don't know how many bad decisions have been made, but pulling Mundt last night was a HUGE blunder. If it's working don't fix it. That one seemed pretty obvious, and you pretty much knew it was a mistake right off as Watkins struggled immediately. Can't dig yourself a hole in a 1-1 game. You may not get a ton of push-back here Grackle. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 10, 2021 8:35:51 GMT -8
I don't know any of the players personally nor do I know the team dynamics but who is/are the leaders on the team? It seems after a few games you should be able to tell.
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Post by cavalierbeaver on Apr 10, 2021 8:44:43 GMT -8
I would tend to agree. I couldn’t believe it when MC pulled Mundt.
I’m not sure if the pitching rotation was determined before the game or what , but Mundt looked untouchable for his one inning. I think you need to ride the hot hand.
I will never publicly criticize a player. You know they all are working hard and giving their best, but coaching decisions are fair game in my book. I was at the game last night and the pitching rotation was really a head scratcher and I thought cost us the game.
I hope the Beavs can rally today and even the series.
By the way it was really awesome to be at a college baseball game again, even if it was at PuKe park.I hope things improve rapidly so we can return to Goss.
Go Beavs!
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Post by irimi on Apr 10, 2021 9:08:19 GMT -8
My take, and I know I'm going to take flack here for this: I like MC's general demeanor, but I'm seriously beginning to wonder about this coaching staff's acuity for college ball. IMO, since MC took over there are just too many examples of questionable lineups and flawed in-game decisions. And last night was one of most blatant misuse of a college coaching staff I can recall ever seeing -- MC leaves his best arms (e.g., Mully, Verberg) on the bench for the huge 8th-9th inning end-game windup. Instead, he brings in a relatively untested guy with a close-to 4.0 ERA. The kid can't really get anybody out and we blow probably the most important game thus far in our PAC12 season. What the hell?? I really don't expect decisions from MC's staff to get much better in the coming weeks. Mitch may have been an OK minor league pro-manager, but (IMO) there's just no substitute for previous experience coaching at the college level. I seriously hope I'm way off base here. And I'm sure many of you will let me know about that...but that's my opinion. Since MC took over? This is his first real year of baseball, since last year we didn't even get into Pac 12 play before it was shut down. Not expecting MC to improve is ridiculous. I certainly don't know what he was thinking last night and whatever it was failed miserably, but you can't think he won't improve. It hurt to lose that game yesterday. No, we don't look like the Beavers under Casey. Fundamentals just aren't as good and there seems to be less overall confidence, less swagger. Still a lot of baseball left to play and on the field is where the learning is. Give MC (and the team) a little time. |
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Apr 10, 2021 9:47:08 GMT -8
My take, and I know I'm going to take flack here for this: I like MC's general demeanor, but I'm seriously beginning to wonder about this coaching staff's acuity for college ball. IMO, since MC took over there are just too many examples of questionable lineups and flawed in-game decisions. And last night was one of most blatant misuse of a college coaching staff I can recall ever seeing -- MC leaves his best arms (e.g., Mully, Verberg) on the bench for the huge 8th-9th inning end-game windup. Instead, he brings in a relatively untested guy with a close-to 4.0 ERA. The kid can't really get anybody out and we blow probably the most important game thus far in our PAC12 season. What the hell?? I really don't expect decisions from MC's staff to get much better in the coming weeks. Mitch may have been an OK minor league pro-manager, but (IMO) there's just no substitute for previous experience coaching at the college level. I seriously hope I'm way off base here. And I'm sure many of you will let me know about that...but that's my opinion. I agree with what irimi take was above. I like MC and although I can’t explain his late pitching staff changes.....leave Mundt in for the 8th then bring in Mulholland for the 9th....although after we tied it at 1-1......my mindset was thinking of extra innings so that may have affected things. I didn’t like Watkins after the first batter but when he struck out Kenyon I think MC should have stayed with him ....instead he intentionally loads the bases and brings in a new pitcher.....both of those changes were something I hope MC will learn from and improve the next go around |
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 10, 2021 9:50:49 GMT -8
Why is questioning of the coaching all directed at the pitching decisions? We scored 1 run...the main issue is still with bats. Had numerous chances early on with runners in scoring position and couldn’t come up with a key hit. Couldn’t even put the ball in play at times. That is the main issue right now.
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Apr 10, 2021 10:02:03 GMT -8
Why is questioning of the coaching all directed at the pitching decisions? We scored 1 run...the main issue is still with bats. Had numerous chances early on with runners in scoring position and couldn’t come up with a key hit. Couldn’t even put the ball in play at times. That is the main issue right now. True to an extent but both sides were dealing with very good pitchers so I thought it would be a low scoring game....we should have tried more sacrifices to get players into scoring position .....McMahan should have bunted where we had batters in position. Instead he whiffs three times.... but he didn’t look good at the plate all night. At least Forrester was making contact....can’t explain Dukart though.... |
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Post by mb on Apr 10, 2021 10:06:05 GMT -8
I don't know any of the players personally nor do I know the team dynamics but who is/are the leaders on the team? It seems after a few games you should be able to tell. Mitch should know leadership more than anyone. As a catcher, he led his teams to two National Championships. He should be able to develop someone who at least shows some energy behind the plate. How many passed balls have we seen? If not for the umpire being in it's way, another pitch would have made it to the backstop and another run scored last night. Two pop ups, both missed. Hopefully Mitch has someone in the pipeline because what he has now is not getting it done. MB. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 10, 2021 10:06:07 GMT -8
Why is questioning of the coaching all directed at the pitching decisions? We scored 1 run...the main issue is still with bats. Had numerous chances early on with runners in scoring position and couldn’t come up with a key hit. Couldn’t even put the ball in play at times. That is the main issue right now. True to an extent but both sides were dealing with very good pitchers so I thought it would be a low scoring game....we should have tried more sacrifices to get players into scoring position .....McMahan should have bunted where we had batters in position. Instead he whiffs three times.... but he didn’t look good at the plate all night. At least Forrester was making contact....can’t explain Dukart though.... We had enough chances early to put a couple of runs on the board. By not doing so, that changed up the pitching rotation that we went to later in the game. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 10, 2021 10:12:03 GMT -8
We had chances to win the game and failed. It's that simple. Alstrum was wild early and we had guys in scoring position, but we couldn't come through. And the same issues with free passes, wild pitches/passed balls, and inability to hold runners, all bit us in the ass.....and overall, the quacks got timely hits, we didn't.
So in a nutshell, our bats disappeared and our bullpen choked. It's that simple.....I don't bemoan the coaching staff too much. You put a guy in and you expect execution....but then again maybe the coaching should take some blame for their guys kind of crumbling under the pressure.....gotta throw strikes, especially with em juiced.
Today is a new day, and its baseball so who knows??? But right now, the quacks look like a better team than us.....at least on a Friday night
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Post by irimi on Apr 10, 2021 10:34:43 GMT -8
We had chances to win the game and failed. It's that simple. Alstrum was wild early and we had guys in scoring position, but we couldn't come through. And the same issues with free passes, wild pitches/passed balls, and inability to hold runners, all bit us in the ass.....and overall, the quacks got timely hits, we didn't. So in a nutshell, our bats disappeared and our bullpen choked. It's that simple.....I don't bemoan the coaching staff too much. You put a guy in and you expect execution....but then again maybe the coaching should take some blame for their guys kind of crumbling under the pressure.....gotta throw strikes, especially with em juiced. Today is a new day, and its baseball so who knows??? But right now, the quacks look like a better team than us.....at least on a Friday night I don't think that the Ducks look better than us. We were neck and neck until we put in untested, young pitchers. Except for the number of walks (6 - 1) and of course the final score, the two teams matched up pretty evenly! |
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