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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 11, 2021 4:56:58 GMT -8
Baseball is a finicky sport. The best team doesn’t always win, the best players don’t always win. The difference between a HR and a soft fly is 3/8”. Players have to hit their way out of slumps. Balls take funny hops, and get lost in the lights... “it’s baseball” MC is smart. He was the heart and soul of two NC teams, an up and coming professional coach. Saint Pat anointed him “The Man”. But like all young coaches, he is learning. He is juggling stats vs his gut feeling. He is transitioning from MiLB to the college game. So we lost two games; two series to the ucks. I have faith in Canham, Wong, Dorman and we will be better in June, when s%#t gets important. I sure hope you’re right. |
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Post by billsaab on Apr 11, 2021 6:00:30 GMT -8
First off I agree Pag Casey was special. We saw that the moment He stepped down. We are always seeming to be in uphill battles. Correct also about 3/8 of an inch. With that in mind I see real issues with this group. Their Team executes better period. They will have beaten us 66 percent or higher. That squeeze caught us napping. Baseball is anticipate and we just do not. We have been blaming the Coach but really we will need an infusion of hitters. We are not good. The pitching is walks and hit batters. I see many transfers out and my hope is we can be the best we can be.
Another area is strike outs, Catching,and opponents stealing bases. If we cannot Hit we need to pitch much better. We have serious issues but the Sun will come up again.
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Post by collegiate on Apr 11, 2021 8:09:06 GMT -8
I believe in Mitch and this coaching staff. Mitch said during his in-game interview that they have the pitcher/catcher call the pitches themselves, based on lots of film review of the opponent, because they want them to develop their whole baseball self (broad paraphrase). It will be interesting to see if they are still doing this in the long run.
It seems to me that this approach lends itself to identifiable tendencies for our opponents (e.g., this guy really likes to start with a fastball to get ahead). Our biggest pitching issue the last two games has been execution of pitches. But it was very apparent that our opponent’s coach-called pitches had us off balance all night last night.
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Post by grackle on Apr 11, 2021 8:41:41 GMT -8
'Said it before and I'll stand by it: the MC hire was a huge mistake. He had NO experience with collegiate coaching and in-game strategy at that level. Plus, NO experience recruiting and little to NO experience at learning how to motivate 18 yr-olds.
I fear that MC was/is another Jimmy Anderson hire....very good pal of the previous coach with little to no evidence that he could run a successful collegiate program.
The absolute requirements for Casey's replacement should have been either (1) a nationally-known, proven, successful college baseball coach OR (2) an on-staff individual with deep inside knowledge of what it would take to maintain a quality NCAA baseball program.
At the time we replaced PC, our national standing was such that we could easily have had either (1) or (2) above. Too late now....'hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid we're going to have to be satisfied with mediocrity for some time to come.
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Post by beaver56 on Apr 11, 2021 9:32:52 GMT -8
Agree that option 2 was a viable option we could have chosen.
Disagree that option 1 is something that we could have easily had. In my mind no established proven college coach is leaving whatever current situation he is in to take a job at OSU. If for no other reason than just simply because of having to replace Coach Casey. That's not really an enviable situation for anyone to step into.
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Post by messi on Apr 11, 2021 9:38:36 GMT -8
'Said it before and I'll stand by it: the MC hire was a huge mistake. He had NO experience with collegiate coaching and in-game strategy at that level. Plus, NO experience recruiting and little to NO experience at learning how to motivate 18 yr-olds. I fear that MC was/is another Jimmy Anderson hire....very good pal of the previous coach with little to no evidence that he could run a successful collegiate program. The absolute requirements for Casey's replacement should have been either (1) a nationally-known, proven, successful college baseball coach OR (2) an on-staff individual with deep inside knowledge of what it would take to maintain a quality NCAA baseball program. At the time we replaced PC, our national standing was such that we could easily have had either (1) or (2) above. Too late now....'hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid we're going to have to be satisfied with mediocrity for some time to come. The description for #1 sounds familiar for a local ball program. I wonder how that worked out? |
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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 11, 2021 9:48:55 GMT -8
'Said it before and I'll stand by it: the MC hire was a huge mistake. He had NO experience with collegiate coaching and in-game strategy at that level. Plus, NO experience recruiting and little to NO experience at learning how to motivate 18 yr-olds. I fear that MC was/is another Jimmy Anderson hire....very good pal of the previous coach with little to no evidence that he could run a successful collegiate program. The absolute requirements for Casey's replacement should have been either (1) a nationally-known, proven, successful college baseball coach OR (2) an on-staff individual with deep inside knowledge of what it would take to maintain a quality NCAA baseball program. At the time we replaced PC, our national standing was such that we could easily have had either (1) or (2) above. Too late now....'hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid we're going to have to be satisfied with mediocrity for some time to come. The description for #1 sounds familiar for a local ball program. I wonder how that worked out? Omitting of course that they didn’t have a program to build on. Seems like a bad comparison from that standpoint, but I get it. It’s an interesting question though. How would Horton do taking over the program from Casey? That will freak some folks out! |
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Post by beavheart on Apr 11, 2021 9:50:14 GMT -8
As frustrating as this weekend has been, I would be more concerned about the state of the program if Hole had just blown our doors off. They didn't. Other than a couple of well hit balls they have walked and HBP their way to this series win. The balls/strikes have been pretty inconsistent these last couple of games down there also. Lots of strikes on the edges for their guys. Not so much for our Beavs. One strike call can turn an entire at bat, inning, and even a game. They have been getting some very generous strikes in both games, and also a couple bad calls went against us on the bases. Even still, hits are even through 2 games. Hard to get timely hits or walks when you have no idea what a strike is or isn't.
A team can turn it's performance around pretty quickly in baseball. This team is beating itself right now more than anything else. I will start getting worried about where this program is headed if we see a downward trajectory over the rest of this season, and into the next. Somehow, I'm not too worried about that.
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Post by lefty on Apr 11, 2021 14:36:17 GMT -8
MC and Darwin are probably my 2 favorite Beavers. I hope they turn it around, but this team doesn't appear to have the physical or mental ability needed to win close ones. Way too many K's especially in clutch situations. Also it seems as if the umpires have a very generous strike zone. Two big plays in the last game was Melton striking out on a pitch that appeared to be low and outside on a 0-2 count and then the same umpire getting in the way of a foul pop up that gave the batter another life. He ended up scoring on us. Also the call at 1st on Andy's great play was nullified by ump ruling he wasn't able to keep his foot on the bag.
I think its to the point that we need to be sacrifice, steal, and bunt more. This is a weak offensive team
Anybody have an idea on what MC was discussing with the ump at 3rd.
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Post by lefty on Apr 11, 2021 16:28:48 GMT -8
Maybe will should be sacrificing with a runner on and one out!
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Post by abureid on Apr 11, 2021 18:41:12 GMT -8
Small ball was designed for poor hitting teams to generate runs. We may need to consider it use more frequently.
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Post by abureid on Apr 11, 2021 18:52:20 GMT -8
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 11, 2021 19:25:50 GMT -8
How does the coaching staff respond to this debaucle? I mean it's one thing to get beat outright, but our guys mentally melted down.....where's the swagger? Confidence?
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 11, 2021 19:29:10 GMT -8
Generally the coach sets the tone. Every good coach does time will tell with canham.
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Post by orangeexpress on Apr 11, 2021 20:40:32 GMT -8
'Said it before and I'll stand by it: the MC hire was a huge mistake. He had NO experience with collegiate coaching and in-game strategy at that level. Plus, NO experience recruiting and little to NO experience at learning how to motivate 18 yr-olds. I fear that MC was/is another Jimmy Anderson hire....very good pal of the previous coach with little to no evidence that he could run a successful collegiate program. The absolute requirements for Casey's replacement should have been either (1) a nationally-known, proven, successful college baseball coach OR (2) an on-staff individual with deep inside knowledge of what it would take to maintain a quality NCAA baseball program. At the time we replaced PC, our national standing was such that we could easily have had either (1) or (2) above. Too late now....'hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid we're going to have to be satisfied with mediocrity for some time to come. You referenced Jimmy Anderson as a successor path to avoid, but isn't your scenario #2 essentially Jimmy Anderson? He had nearly three decades of coaching at OSU before replacing Ralph Miller - hard to have more deep inside knowledge than someone who played for Slats Gill and assisted Paul Valenti and Ralph Miller. |
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