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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 12, 2019 21:28:10 GMT -8
Soccer is a completely different animal. In hoops there are no restrictions on where players can and can't be to help defensively. One of the the reason the NBA 3pt line is where it is and why they have defensive rules about help side D. A great 3 on 3 player can be negated in the college game by good defensive strategy. There are no restrictions on the D in college hoops. Then you bring up the NBA. There are defensive restrictions in the NBA. Defensive 3 seconds anybody? You seen to be mixing contrary statements. Just sayin. NBA was contrary... to show it would be more analogous to soccer... harder to defend 2on 2 type play, etc... Poorly constructed paragraph/thought process?! |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 12, 2019 21:45:45 GMT -8
And the use of that word, and the infatuation with 15-18 y/o young ladies is quite weird IMHO. I mean they sign and play they sign and play, but the constant checking their every tweet and post is... yeah... We see where your mind is old man because you say this whenever the guys here link video info. You have said before you don't like it. My fantasy is more with financial independence than win losses in sports but to each his own I guess. Here is my fantasy story.
See link below or just google and watch: Michigan couple crack code to win lottery Fun story.
My mind was pretty specific... "infatuation"... the endless posting and following teenage girls social media and their where abouts. I find the recruiting hype and endless posts, discussion, and expert speculation on kids who are not remotely close to signing, 14-15 y/o frosh/sophs in HS... totally weird. Talking about actual visits, signings, and how a kid might develop/fit the program... pretty normal. Of course some of these same posters slam opposing players for show boating, being social media divas yet follow every tweet/post. It's not a sports "thing". The gen pop of sports fans don't hover over recruiting sites daily, let alone Twitter accts of kids. Of course my opinion, and not seeking validation. I'm sure those that think otherwise find it 'normal' within the scope of their fandom. I usually only come to these threads now to click so the "new" icon disappears, unless a post has actual info on a signing. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 13, 2019 6:57:31 GMT -8
Back to the topic — I would love a 1-2 punch of Van Lith and Clark, especially with Goforth at the 3. I’ve always thought of Van Lith as a scoring PG with a combo-game, thus allowing her to play the 1 or 2, and I always thought of Clark as more of a game-manager, who likes to set things up in the half court. Both are very capable of playing the 1 for OSU, and we’ve had high scoring PGs before (Slocum and Wiese). Goodman and Slocum are a tremendous 1-2 punch in the backcourt as well, so it isn’t like Scott has never used two PGs before. Ionescu and Cazorla were also a very good PG duo. However, if we can only land one of them, Verhulst and Wolfenbarger are both talented guards in 2021 who have emerged as top talents. I think we’ll maybe see mostly guards and wings in 2020/21, and hopefully some posts come 2022 (Gardiner and Betts).
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 13, 2019 10:00:09 GMT -8
Well, I've been following basketball recruiting since the Ralph Miller days, and yes, I was crazy enough then to subscribe to a product called Van Coleman's All stars. They would send you published reports every couple weeks of who was recruiting who before the internet days. I was also crazy enough that two or three times I called an 800 number (I think it was from Blue Ribbon Sports if I remember correctly) to listen to recruiting information.....yep, that cost an arm and a leg. I still have one of my old recruiting magazines with a picture of Reggie Wallace on the cover during his senior year of High School.....no, I was never really a fan of his, just happened to keep that edition somehow.
So, if I'm one of the odd ones, that's ok. I get it. You can call me odd. Just don't call me a duck.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 13, 2019 10:02:05 GMT -8
Well, I've been following basketball recruiting since the Ralph Miller days, and yes, I was crazy enough then to subscribe to a product called Van Coleman's All stars. They would send you published reports every couple weeks of who was recruiting who before the internet days. I was also crazy enough that two or three times I called an 800 number (I think it was from Blue Ribbon Sports if I remember correctly) to listen to recruiting information.....yep, that cost an arm and a leg. I still have one of my old recruiting magazines with a picture of Reggie Wallace on the cover during his senior year of High School.....no, I was never really a fan of his, just happened to keep that edition somehow. So, if I'm one of the odd ones, that's ok. I get it. You can call me odd. Just don't call me a duck. LOL... have an uck friend... he is more into football recruiting than the games themselves. I have never seen a guy get more excited or disappointed on LOI day! |
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Post by beav74 on Jun 13, 2019 14:15:06 GMT -8
That's all they care about down there!
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Post by brettmp029 on Jun 13, 2019 20:55:38 GMT -8
Not aware that Clark has ever been here, but it can only be a good thing if she's coming. I continue to think we get Van Lith. If they're both here on the same weekend, and Van Lith is ready to commit, Clark might find herself easily envisioning a few years playing with Brown, Jones, Goforth, and her. That lineup would certainly seem very attractive, but, who knows what will happen. I can confirm that Clark has been to Corvallis for an unofficial visit during the past 12 months. Yes, Caitlin visited both Oregon and Oregon State last year on unofficial visits. Last I heard her say she wants to decide by the end of summer taking officials to Notre Dame, Iowa, Oregon St., Oregon, Iowa St. (where her brother plays football), with hometown Drake getting an unofficial as she loves coach Jennie Baranczyk. Caitlin is looking for a family atmosphere, strong academics, and someplace she can make an impact right away. Around here in WDSM (IA) parents of her teammates at Dowling believe she will decide between Notre Dame (her faith is extremely important) and Iowa due to her relationship with coach Lisa Bluder. |
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Post by sparty on Jun 14, 2019 5:24:14 GMT -8
I can confirm that Clark has been to Corvallis for an unofficial visit during the past 12 months. Yes, Caitlin visited both Oregon and Oregon State last year on unofficial visits. Last I heard her say she wants to decide by the end of summer taking officials to Notre Dame, Iowa, Oregon St., Oregon, Iowa St. (where her brother plays football), with hometown Drake getting an unofficial as she loves coach Jennie Baranczyk. Caitlin is looking for a family atmosphere, strong academics, and someplace she can make an impact right away. Around here in WDSM (IA) parents of her teammates at Dowling believe she will decide between Notre Dame (her faith is extremely important) and Iowa due to her relationship with coach Lisa Bluder. Not accurate at all to say by end of summer because she is going scheduled attend football games at both Oregon schools in the fall.
So does she just want to be the big fish in the little pond she chooses Drake, Iowa or Iowa St. (pretty weak conference(s)) btw or does she want a potential to be a a final four then she chooses Oregon State, Oregon or Notre Dame. I think ND is the lead dog in this.
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 14, 2019 6:54:29 GMT -8
I don't want to argue whether or not she plans to attend a football game this fall, because I don't have any real knowledge. If she does, it would almost certainly be on her official visit. Both Iowa and Iowa St have had some good WBB teams, so she would only elevate their programs, and as brettmpo29 stated, her brother does attend Iowa St. Drake isn't a terrible program to go to either. They just landed a transfer from Missouri, that was on the radar of Beaver coaches. Jennie Baranczyk must be doing something right there.
I don't think the Beavs are one of her top choices, but if they could get her out here on an official visit before she commits somewhere else, I think the Beavs chances go WAY up. Still a tough road to land her though.
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Post by 411500 on Jun 14, 2019 7:17:35 GMT -8
brettmp029 - -appreciate the insight you provide about Caitlin Clark....Sounds to me like you are, in one way or another, close to her h.s. program. If that's the case we would enjoy hearing more from you when you have further insight into her plans...
To my knowledge, you are the only one posting about CC who is on-the-scene, so to speak...
Thanks for adding to the conversation....
The Beavs very much want to sign CC, so here at Benny's your comments have a built-in audience....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 14, 2019 11:16:09 GMT -8
From this article: usatodayhss.com/2019/inside-the-national-recruitment-of-dowlings-west-des-moines-iowa-guard-caitlin-clark/amp“Juniors can start taking official visits on the Thursday following the NCAA women’s basketball championship game. Clark doesn’t know how many, if any, officials she’ll want to take. She does, however, know she wants to play out this spring and summer with All Iowa Attack and then make her college decision before her senior year. Or, before her senior basketball season, at the latest.” A lot has changed since then as she was named to the U19 team, which very well may have pushed her decision back a little bit. Will be very interesting to see were she lands, as once again the beavs are tangled up with a recruit who is giving the in-state schools a serious look. Notre Dame will also be very hard to beat out, as will Oregon. We will still have Goodman and Slocum(?), so it isn’t likely a PG will come in and make an immediate major impact as a freshman, but it would be wide open after their freshman year, so that is in our favor. |
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Post by beav74 on Jun 14, 2019 21:07:01 GMT -8
And speaking of Caitlin Clark wanting to "play right away...." wouldn't happen at oregon either. Sabrina and the USC transfer will get 78 minutes between them.
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Post by newduke2 on Jun 15, 2019 0:28:27 GMT -8
Maybe the last 5-6 comments should be moved to the Caitlin Clark thread, or the title of this thread
broadened from being about Van Lith to being about Van Lith and Clark?
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Post by sparty on Jun 15, 2019 21:40:38 GMT -8
And speaking of Caitlin Clark wanting to "play right away...." wouldn't happen at oregon either. Sabrina and the USC transfer will get 78 minutes between them. How is that possible, explain the scenario? |
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Post by brettmp029 on Jun 17, 2019 10:03:38 GMT -8
brettmp029 - -appreciate the insight you provide about Caitlin Clark....Sounds to me like you are, in one way or another, close to her h.s. program. If that's the case we would enjoy hearing more from you when you have further insight into her plans... To my knowledge, you are the only one posting about CC who is on-the-scene, so to speak... Thanks for adding to the conversation.... The Beavs very much want to sign CC, so here at Benny's your comments have a built-in audience.... GO BEAVS !! Thanks. What I can add about Jennie Baranczyk at Drake is she went to Caitlin's high school (Dowling Catholic) and was an all Big 10 Player at Iowa (Jennie Lillis). Jennie has been a trusted resource for Caitlin in recruiting and basketball in general. Does that mean Drake actually has a shot? No. I haven't heard anything about being scheduled to attend an OSU football game and the last I heard is she wants to decide before her school year (could change but not what she hopes) as she takes an all-advanced class academic load. In the end I think being closer to home where her family can easily come watch her play rather than where some of her USA Basketball friends go will get her commitment, most likely Notre Dame. |
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