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Post by sparty on Jun 11, 2019 5:51:25 GMT -8
As it stands now uo will have 14 players on scholarship for the 20-21 season, which leaves one space open. They will probably only use the remaining ride if it is for an elite player like Clark. I think HVL is a very high probability but Clark not so much based on connections with Parrish who was instrumental in getting their big Watson on board. Hope I am wrong. HVL is a great player. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 11, 2019 8:47:15 GMT -8
As it stands now uo will have 14 players on scholarship for the 20-21 season, which leaves one space open. They will probably only use the remaining ride if it is for an elite player like Clark. If they have 15 scholarship players, and six incoming freshmen in 2020, most of whom are guards, there will be transfers galore. Elite players don't go some place to sit. |
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Post by mike74 on Jun 11, 2019 9:28:32 GMT -8
Oregon has 2 point guards, 2 wings, 2 forwards/posts currently in the 2020 class. The team will lose 2 PG's (Ionescu & Moore) and 1 Post/Forward (Hebard) before the class arrives. 3 Wings(S. Sabally, Boley & Yeager) and 1 post (Giomi) will graduate at the end of the 2020 classes' freshman year. because the Ducks primarily play with 2 PG's and 2 wings and 1 Post/Forward it makes some sense to recruit more PG's and Wings.
But you're right, Henry, that transfers have become a regular part of Women's Basketball throughout the nation (playing time, difficulty with scheme, chemistry, home sickness or whatever all seem to play a part) and wouldn't be surprised if a player anywhere decides that a trip to the transfer portal is in their best interest.
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Post by sparty on Jun 11, 2019 15:59:38 GMT -8
Verhulst is just an awesome player and would be an awesome get.
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Post by beaveragain on Jun 11, 2019 19:29:03 GMT -8
Watching HVL playing in the 3/3 games and I have to agree with the services that have changed her to a SG. She seems to have more fun doing the one on one stuff (and is really really good at it) and the challenge of scoring. She's a good passer etc, but I think she loves beating the other player and why not do what you love, and not what people expect of you? So Clark, you can be our PG 8 )
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 12, 2019 8:37:52 GMT -8
If you want to call HVL a 2 guard, then you are probably calling Clark a 2 as well. I would definitely consider Clark as a combo guard, and maybe that is where HVL lies as well. In either case, I would love to see the Beavs land them both, or I could live with missing out on one (or both, depending on who else is signed this year) and getting Verhulst next year. I have no idea which of these girls is the most talented, who may have the most upside, etc. but I think Verhulst may be more of a SR team fit type of person......and I may be completely wrong about that as well. We only get glimpses of what these girls are like, but the coaches get to know them very well. Bottom line, this coaching staff has done a marvelous job of creating a team culture, with players who unselfishly play together, and I expect the winning ways to continue.
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Post by 411500 on Jun 12, 2019 12:57:05 GMT -8
beaver again writes: "Watching HVL playing in the 3/3 games and I have to agree with the services that have changed her to a SG. She seems to have more fun doing the one on one stuff (and is really really good at it) and the challenge of scoring. She's a good passer etc, but I think she loves beating the other player and why not do what you love, and not what people expect of you? So Clark, you can be our PG 8 )"
You may be right in what you say about HVL and her game - but I will say this about that. You cannot learn much about a player's 5 on 5 full court game by watching him (her) play 3 x 3. The nature of the 3x3 game is strikingly different. Good 5 on 5 players are often also good at 3x3 because their skill set is so good they can quickly adapt to the game. However, many 3x3 players - even some really good ones - aren't worth a damn as 5 on 5 full court players..Plays you can make a living on in 3x3 aren't worth a damn in 5x5 - especially beating your man off the dribble with a quick first step.
In 3x3 you are always one dribble away from scoring; if you beat your man you're there. In 5x5 when you beat your man you're usually in trouble because of who is waiting for you.....
I played and coached 3x3 for 15 years and one thing I learned is you cannot learn a whole lot about a player's 5 on 5 game by watching him play 3x3....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by beaveragain on Jun 12, 2019 15:49:15 GMT -8
Actually it was seeing HVL play 3x3 and that got me to look at HVL in 5x5 games. HVL tends to look to score and then passes off on the next best opportunity. SR offense tends toward the PG creating ball movement until someone is open. From my limited observation of Clarks games this seems much more her style of play. I don't really see one style or the other as being better, just different. And since SR is more toward Clarks kind of PG play, while HVL is more toward how SR likes his SG's to play..... So again, Clark's the PG and HVL is the SG. It's MY fantasy and I'll do it the way I want to.
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Post by 411500 on Jun 12, 2019 16:28:53 GMT -8
"It's MY fantasy and I'll do it the way I want to."
Very good then.....
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Post by sparty on Jun 12, 2019 17:04:08 GMT -8
"It's MY fantasy and I'll do it the way I want to." Very good then..... I think we all have a better fantasy than this. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 12, 2019 17:47:04 GMT -8
"It's MY fantasy and I'll do it the way I want to." Very good then..... I think we all have a better fantasy than this. And the use of that word, and the infatuation with 15-18 y/o young ladies is quite weird IMHO. I mean they sign and play they sign and play, but the constant checking their every tweet and post is... yeah... |
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Post by lotrader on Jun 12, 2019 17:48:57 GMT -8
Go back and watch an OSU WBB Game. It may be 5 v 5, but there are often times within the 5 v 5, it actually breaks down to 3 v 3, or, even 2 v 2. Game within a game. Same holds true in soccer.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 12, 2019 17:52:34 GMT -8
Go back and watch an OSU WBB Game. It may be 5 v 5, but there are often times within the 5 v 5, it actually breaks down to 3 v 3, or, even 2 v 2. Game within a game. Same holds true in soccer. Soccer is a completely different animal. In hoops there are no restrictions on where players can and can't be to help defensively. One of the the reason the NBA 3pt line is where it is and why they have defensive rules about help side D. A great 3 on 3 player can be negated in the college game by good defensive strategy. |
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 12, 2019 18:38:27 GMT -8
Go back and watch an OSU WBB Game. It may be 5 v 5, but there are often times within the 5 v 5, it actually breaks down to 3 v 3, or, even 2 v 2. Game within a game. Same holds true in soccer. Soccer is a completely different animal. In hoops there are no restrictions on where players can and can't be to help defensively. One of the the reason the NBA 3pt line is where it is and why they have defensive rules about help side D. A great 3 on 3 player can be negated in the college game by good defensive strategy. There are no restrictions on the D in college hoops. Then you bring up the NBA. There are defensive restrictions in the NBA. Defensive 3 seconds anybody? You seen to be mixing contrary statements. Just sayin. |
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Post by sparty on Jun 12, 2019 19:01:31 GMT -8
I think we all have a better fantasy than this. And the use of that word, and the infatuation with 15-18 y/o young ladies is quite weird IMHO. I mean they sign and play they sign and play, but the constant checking their every tweet and post is... yeah... We see where your mind is old man because you say this whenever the guys here link video info. You have said before you don't like it. My fantasy is more with financial independence than win losses in sports but to each his own I guess. Here is my fantasy story.
See link below or just google and watch: Michigan couple crack code to win lottery Fun story.
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