How many non-tournament seasons do you give Wayne Tinkle?

I chose 1 season, but I'm basing that on Tres returning. If Tres returns and they can't make a tournament, while only losing 2 players of this roster, then the program isn't building. If Tres doesn't return I'd be generous and give him a second season unless next year turned into another season like the one that Tres was injured.

Okay.. I'm being serious here and not trying to be a smart ass, but what exactly are you happy about with the current state of the program? Tinkle's recruiting is suspect, his coaching is suspect, his game planning is suspect. He runs a clean program and is a good person, i'll give him that, but what else is positive? 5 seasons into his tenure and he has 1 appearance in the NCAA tourney (thanks GP2) and no NIT appearances. A below .400 conference winning record and now his experienced players are graduating or will be gone after next year. I just don't see how the program will ever get better under his direction. 

So far, Wayne's Pac-12 wins are 7, 8, 9, 10, and 1. Wayne's total wins are 16, 17, 18, 19, and 5. Which one is not like the other?

If you assume a normal distribution, winning five games 2016-17 is outside of the 99.99% confidence interval, i.e. there is less than a 1 in 10,000 chance that five wins is a naturally-occurring event. Or, to put that another way, assuming a normal distribution, you would expect to see another five-win season in 10,000 years.

Including 2016-17 is purposefully included to skew Wayne's otherwise very positive results (at least when compared to all other coaches of the past quarter century).

Removing 2016-17, Wayne was 36-27 with GPII and 34-29 without GPII. Wayne was exactly 17-19 in Pac-12 play with GPII and 17-19 in Pac-12 play without GPII. Wayne went 1-2 in the Pac-12 Tournament with GPII and 1-2 in the Pac-12 Tournament without GPII. In non-conference play, the difference appears to be four points in two games over the past two years.

As for his pros and cons, it seems like he does not do a great job at game preparation (for whatever reason) but is very good at making in-game adjustments. The team was heady and tended to make very good use of timeouts during the bulk of the game. The end of games sometimes turned into a hot mess, which should mostly fall in Tinkle's lap. That UCLA game was a great example of how to not make the postseason.

In my opinion, Tinkle is an above average (although not great) recruiter, who has shown an ability to find diamonds in the rough.  In my opinion, Tinkle is an above average (although not great) developer of talent.  There are better coaches out there for sure, but the odds of the current AD finding one are very close to 0%.  I would much rather watch a competitive 7-11 with flashes of 10-8 or 11-7 than the record-setting historically ugly basketball that we saw the quarter century before Tinkle showed up.

Where did you come up with 28-48?..thats 76 games.. you play 18 conference games. 18x5 seasons= 90..

I don't know if WT is the final answer to OSU's basketball woes or not. But I do know the two most successful coaches OSU has had in the last 90 years are the only two that coached longer than 6 seasons. I'd like to try a couple more years of stability and see if momentum can continue to move in a positive direction. Cut bait now and I'm fairly certain we'll be having this discussion again in roughly 5 or 6 seasons. There's no guarantee it will work out - but at least its trying something different than the pattern since 1989; name new coach - five or six seasons - fire coach - name new coach - wash - repeat.

Yeah, Apple should have cut that Jobs guy loose early on after his first few failures, and certainly never should have rehired him. There's no excuse for failure, and one who fails can never succeed. 

Colonel Sanders, Walt Disney, Ray Kroc all had huge failures along the way but stuck with it well beyond the point most would give up.

Not saying Tinkle is any of those guys, but OSU has had a history of giving up on coaches after 4 and 5 years.  From the 1991/92 season through the 2013/14 season OSU produced two winning records and one .500 season. 23 freaking years and only 3 competitive-ish seasons. In Tinkle's case, he has produced the best years OSU has had in 30 years (3 winning records and one .500 season in 5 years) and there are people here who are saying he needs to be gone.  

In pretty much every sport that we've had long term coaches, their best years weren't in their first 5 seasons, closer to a decade out. OSU may never have that kind of coach again if they cut and run continually, especially on coaches who are actually producing competitive teams.