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Post by ag87 on Apr 1, 2019 10:38:35 GMT -8
I don’t want to pinpoint Stevie as the “problem” with our defense but you’re right about the athleticism and quickness thing. I think if you don’t have those you need to be great on positioning. I think Stevie has quick hands and those got him a good number of steals, but I’m thinking he was out of position on occasion. Tres has either had or been coming off broken foot problems or playing with a bad ankle the entire time he’s been here. I’m hoping with a couple weeks rest and and entire off season to recover, those will be behind them. I think he positions himself well but his first step has been hampered much of the time he’s been here. Hopefully he’ll come back with healthy legs and a quarter step quicker. He’ll probably never be all league defensively but I think he potentially is better than given credit for. Ethan could be one of our best all-round players in a long time. Along with some of the other newer players we have and are getting I hope the athleticism and quickness issues you pointed out will be less of an issue going forward. Looking at the season stats, of players that played at least 100 minutes, the players with the best +/- per 100 possessions were: 1. Kelley +23.3 2. Tres +14.9 3. Rakocevic +12.6 4. Ethan +7.5 5. Stevie +2.7 6. Washington +2.0 7. Vernon +1.6 8. Reichle -12.5 9. Hollins -16.0 Fewest points allowed per 100 possessions: 1. Kelley 98.4 2. Tres 100.9 3. Hollins 105.7 4. Stevie 105.8 5. Ethan 106.2 6. Washington 107.5 7. Rakocevic 107.9 8. Reichle 108.0 9. Vernon 110.3 Defensively, by metrics, Vernon was the biggest defensive liability. Reichle was second. The defense shined when Kelley played. It was a big mess, when he left the floor. Where do these numbers come from? I'm having trouble making sense of it. I keep stats for handicapping. I think my numbers are close to accurate. For home games, I have OSU +98 points and for on the road and neutral OSU +12 points. I think either Hollins or Reichle were on the court for more than 90% of the time, yet their numbers show a huge loss for OSU. I don't understand.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 1, 2019 10:50:28 GMT -8
I voted for 1 season, but mostly because I think they will make the tournament next year. With a healthy Tres, development of the younger guys, and the much needed infusion of some outside scoring with the incoming class I can see them getting there. As much as I respect and appreciate what Stevie did while he was here I actually think his production will be addition by subtraction. No longer will there be 1 player on the team that continually tries to put the team on his back. No more hucking up threes on an off night by one guy. The scoring duties will need to be shared and and a group effort should be way more consistent and sustainable. I can see guys like Kelley, Hollins, WW and Vernon taking big steps forward, but the real X factor for me is Gianni Hunt. GH brings some athleticism and basketball IQ to the PG position that this team hasn't had since GP2. Finally, this team will have a facilitator. I expect Vernon and Hunt to share the point duties, which should free Ethan up, and I wouldn't be surprised if Hunt is starting by the start of conference play. I also think Reichle will really have to scrap for PT behind Tres with the incoming class. I honestly don't know how anyone can look at what this team will have on paper and not see improvement coming. The team has shown improvement, in spite of injuries, and a variety of player issues. With a Tres led team, and more of a team effort I will honestly be surprised if they don't make a serious push for the post season next year. If everyone comes back, stays healthy next year, and they don't take a step forward I will eat my hat. I agree with pretty much everything in this post. I may make myself a hat out of pastrami so I cover all my bases.
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Post by beavheart on Apr 1, 2019 11:08:04 GMT -8
I voted for 1 season, but mostly because I think they will make the tournament next year. With a healthy Tres, development of the younger guys, and the much needed infusion of some outside scoring with the incoming class I can see them getting there. As much as I respect and appreciate what Stevie did while he was here I actually think his production will be addition by subtraction. No longer will there be 1 player on the team that continually tries to put the team on his back. No more hucking up threes on an off night by one guy. The scoring duties will need to be shared and and a group effort should be way more consistent and sustainable. I can see guys like Kelley, Hollins, WW and Vernon taking big steps forward, but the real X factor for me is Gianni Hunt. GH brings some athleticism and basketball IQ to the PG position that this team hasn't had since GP2. Finally, this team will have a facilitator. I expect Vernon and Hunt to share the point duties, which should free Ethan up, and I wouldn't be surprised if Hunt is starting by the start of conference play. I also think Reichle will really have to scrap for PT behind Tres with the incoming class. I honestly don't know how anyone can look at what this team will have on paper and not see improvement coming. The team has shown improvement, in spite of injuries, and a variety of player issues. With a Tres led team, and more of a team effort I will honestly be surprised if they don't make a serious push for the post season next year. If everyone comes back, stays healthy next year, and they don't take a step forward I will eat my hat. I agree with pretty much everything in this post. I may make myself a hat out of pastrami so I cover all my bases. Ha! That sounds a lot tastier than my Beavs baseball hat. Pastrami hat. Order for 2 please.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 1, 2019 11:16:03 GMT -8
I'm going with the Gru chip & guac hat.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 1, 2019 11:33:35 GMT -8
Looking at the season stats, of players that played at least 100 minutes, the players with the best +/- per 100 possessions were: 1. Kelley +23.3 2. Tres +14.9 3. Rakocevic +12.6 4. Ethan +7.5 5. Stevie +2.7 6. Washington +2.0 7. Vernon +1.6 8. Reichle -12.5 9. Hollins -16.0 Fewest points allowed per 100 possessions: 1. Kelley 98.4 2. Tres 100.9 3. Hollins 105.7 4. Stevie 105.8 5. Ethan 106.2 6. Washington 107.5 7. Rakocevic 107.9 8. Reichle 108.0 9. Vernon 110.3 Defensively, by metrics, Vernon was the biggest defensive liability. Reichle was second. The defense shined when Kelley played. It was a big mess, when he left the floor. Where do these numbers come from? I'm having trouble making sense of it. I keep stats for handicapping. I think my numbers are close to accurate. For home games, I have OSU +98 points and for on the road and neutral OSU +12 points. I think either Hollins or Reichle were on the court for more than 90% of the time, yet their numbers show a huge loss for OSU. I don't understand. Link.
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Post by ag87 on Apr 1, 2019 13:25:11 GMT -8
Where do these numbers come from? I'm having trouble making sense of it. I keep stats for handicapping. I think my numbers are close to accurate. For home games, I have OSU +98 points and for on the road and neutral OSU +12 points. I think either Hollins or Reichle were on the court for more than 90% of the time, yet their numbers show a huge loss for OSU. I don't understand. Link.
Thank you. The offensive numbers are not team numbers while a player is on the floor but how many points a player actually scores as a ratio to his possessions. The defensive numbers are primarily a function of blocks, steals and defensive rebounds.
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