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Post by atownbeaver on Jan 24, 2019 10:54:07 GMT -8
From Scott Rueck: Link (O live warning) In brief, Rueck talks about benching star players and his general thought process: I don't play favorites, it is a team game, I go with my gut. In some way or another, we have all criticized Tinkle for handling of the "Coaches kids". I think in general one can say it is pretty clear they are the best players on the court. Their heavy playing time is deserved. But my frustration is we have seen times where they are in a funk, tossing up brinks and not the best player on the court. This is where Tinkle is having problems I believe. He is unwilling to bench a guy having a bad game. Stevie Thompson is a great player in general. We have all seen his 30 point type games. But we have also all seen is 2 for 15 type games as well. And when we are losing those games by 2, 3 whatever points... it is not hard to imagine that maybe if we handed 5 minutes to another guy that could put down a bucket or two and then put him back, maybe we are on top. I have always maintained that I am generally a Tinkle support. I also generally wave off "coaches kids" complaints for the most part. They ARE literally our best players. but there is a weakness here. Tinkle needs to manage the floor better.
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Post by bill82 on Jan 24, 2019 11:21:37 GMT -8
I don’t buy that my three sons are the best players. I’m counting leadership as an important element of being the best player, and WT has impliednthere are no leaders on this team. So I’d like to see more playing time given to non family members to see if a leader emerges. We know from one of our best wins (USC) we do not need Tres to win.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 11:22:35 GMT -8
From Scott Rueck: Link (O live warning) In brief, Rueck talks about benching star players and his general thought process: I don't play favorites, it is a team game, I go with my gut. In some way or another, we have all criticized Tinkle for handling of the "Coaches kids". I think in general one can say it is pretty clear they are the best players on the court. Their heavy playing time is deserved. But my frustration is we have seen times where they are in a funk, tossing up brinks and not the best player on the court. This is where Tinkle is having problems I believe. He is unwilling to bench a guy having a bad game. Stevie Thompson is a great player in general. We have all seen his 30 point type games. But we have also all seen is 2 for 15 type games as well. And when we are losing those games by 2, 3 whatever points... it is not hard to imagine that maybe if we handed 5 minutes to another guy that could put down a bucket or two and then put him back, maybe we are on top. I have always maintained that I am generally a Tinkle support. I also generally wave off "coaches kids" complaints for the most part. They ARE literally our best players. but there is a weakness here. Tinkle needs to manage the floor better. Rueck wouldn't bench Tinkle or Stevie or Ethan either. The man isn't stupid.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 24, 2019 12:21:16 GMT -8
From Scott Rueck: Link (O live warning) In brief, Rueck talks about benching star players and his general thought process: I don't play favorites, it is a team game, I go with my gut. In some way or another, we have all criticized Tinkle for handling of the "Coaches kids". I think in general one can say it is pretty clear they are the best players on the court. Their heavy playing time is deserved. But my frustration is we have seen times where they are in a funk, tossing up brinks and not the best player on the court. This is where Tinkle is having problems I believe. He is unwilling to bench a guy having a bad game. Stevie Thompson is a great player in general. We have all seen his 30 point type games. But we have also all seen is 2 for 15 type games as well. And when we are losing those games by 2, 3 whatever points... it is not hard to imagine that maybe if we handed 5 minutes to another guy that could put down a bucket or two and then put him back, maybe we are on top. I have always maintained that I am generally a Tinkle support. I also generally wave off "coaches kids" complaints for the most part. They ARE literally our best players. but there is a weakness here. Tinkle needs to manage the floor better. Rueck wouldn't bench Tinkle or Stevie or Ethan either. The man isn't stupid. Yes... he would and had proven it. Notice Destiny sitting quite a bit when she gets out of control. 1st year player? Yes. But, arguably one of the best on the floor.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 24, 2019 12:30:10 GMT -8
Rueck wouldn't bench Tinkle or Stevie or Ethan either. The man isn't stupid. Yes... he would and had proven it. Notice Destiny sitting quite a bit when she gets out of control. 1st year player? Yes. But, arguably one of the best on the floor. Maybe....maybe not. Scott is afforded with a lot more depth than WT's team.....There is a larger drop off when you get to WT's bench. And yes, I know you think that is WT's fault with recruiting issues, transfers, etc......
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 24, 2019 12:50:00 GMT -8
Yes, I remember all those times two years ago when Scott sat a struggling Syd Weise and brought in Taylor Kalmer and Je'Von'Ta Hill for long stretches.
Or when he sat Ruth and brought in Tarea Green.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 24, 2019 13:00:34 GMT -8
Yes... he would and had proven it. Notice Destiny sitting quite a bit when she gets out of control. 1st year player? Yes. But, arguably one of the best on the floor. Maybe....maybe not. Scott is afforded with a lot more depth than WT's team.....There is a larger drop off when you get to WT's bench. And yes, I know you think that is WT's fault with recruiting issues, transfers, etc...... And... whose directly responsible for that depth? Folks have a reason for each and every weakness that is mentioned in terms of WT... depth, playing time, coaching, recruiting, player development, etc etc etc... The guy is never responsible for anything that happens except of course wins... that'd be at home cuz you can count Pac12 road W's on one hand. WT will be at OSU as long as he wants with the prevailing attitude of some on this board.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 24, 2019 13:04:57 GMT -8
Yes, I remember all those times two years ago when Scott sat a struggling Syd Weise and brought in Taylor Kalmer and Je'Von'Ta Hill for long stretches. Or when he sat Ruth and brought in Tarea Green. LOL... cherry pick much. For you with the short memory... Marie, Ruth, Syd and others were all sat at different times when struggling. Of course you can just just argue it was normal substitution. Oh those with selective memories that try to support a point SR himself stated. It just didn't suddenly become a practice/philosophy. It was in his coaching as far back as GFox. For those of us who knew young ladies lucky enough to play for home then and attended games you'd know that. But, then again of course you're right and Rueck was JUST speaking to the current team! Wow...
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 24, 2019 13:09:58 GMT -8
Maybe....maybe not. Scott is afforded with a lot more depth than WT's team.....There is a larger drop off when you get to WT's bench. And yes, I know you think that is WT's fault with recruiting issues, transfers, etc...... And... whose directly responsible for that depth? Folks have a reason for each and every weakness that is mentioned in terms of WT... depth, playing time, coaching, recruiting, player development, etc etc etc... The guy is never responsible for anything that happens except of course wins... that'd be at home cuz you can count Pac12 road W's on one hand. WT will be at OSU as long as he wants with the prevailing attitude of some on this board. I put your response in my post and you still had to reiterate it.....full of yourself much?
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 24, 2019 13:12:54 GMT -8
And... whose directly responsible for that depth? Folks have a reason for each and every weakness that is mentioned in terms of WT... depth, playing time, coaching, recruiting, player development, etc etc etc... The guy is never responsible for anything that happens except of course wins... that'd be at home cuz you can count Pac12 road W's on one hand. WT will be at OSU as long as he wants with the prevailing attitude of some on this board. I put your response in my post and you still had to reiterate it.....full of yourself much? That's what reiterate means... "to state or do over again or repeatedly sometimes with wearying effect". Sort like the excuses repeatedly given.... even more wearying! And... HA... who else would I be "full of"? One of the dumbest colloquialisms ever.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 24, 2019 13:18:39 GMT -8
I put your response in my post and you still had to reiterate it.....full of yourself much? That's what reiterate means... "to state or do over again or repeatedly sometimes with wearying effect". Sort like the excuses repeatedly given.... even more wearying! And... HA... who else would I be "full of"? One of the dumbest colloquialisms ever. I am 100% positive that you are full of something else. There's a reason that you have 6 million posts and less than half of them are liked.......LOL.....LOL......LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 13:21:54 GMT -8
[quote author=" Judge Smails" source="/post/120927/thread" timestamp="... who else would I be "full of"? One of the dumbest colloquialisms ever. That is good point. You couldn't be full of anything else.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 24, 2019 13:26:40 GMT -8
Yes, I remember all those times two years ago when Scott sat a struggling Syd Weise and brought in Taylor Kalmer and Je'Von'Ta Hill for long stretches. Or when he sat Ruth and brought in Tarea Green. LOL... cherry pick much. For you with the short memory... Marie, Ruth, Syd and others were all sat at different times when struggling. Of course you can just just argue it was normal substitution. Oh those with selective memories that try to support a point SR himself stated. It just didn't suddenly become a practice/philosophy. It was in his coaching as far back as GFox. For those of us who knew young ladies lucky enough to play for home then and attended games you'd know that. But, then again of course you're right and Rueck was JUST speaking to the current team! Wow... Ha, you're a hoot. SR did not bench Ruth, Sydney or Marie for long periods of time, and insert a lesser-talented player, for extended minutes simply to give the lesser player a chance to become a leader, as the previous poster on this thread suggested, which generated the ensuing conversation. There is a big difference between subbing Goodman for Slocum as opposed to subbing someone for Tres - who we have no comparable backup for - or for playing Vernon for Stevie or Ethan for an extended period. Syd Weise averaged at least 33 minutes a game every year she played. She played 33 or more minutes in almost every game as a senior. Other than an occasional rest, she did not sit, even when not playing well, her entire career unless it was a blowout or she was in foul trouble. Same with Marie Gulich last year. The best players get the most minutes, whether they're playing at their best or not. Always have, always will. And citing numerous examples, using a number or players from a variety of seasons, isn't cherry-picking.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 24, 2019 13:26:44 GMT -8
[quote author=" Judge Smails " source="/post/120927/thread" timestamp="... who else would I be "full of"? One of the dumbest colloquialisms ever. That is good point. You couldn't be full of anything else. What about beer?
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 24, 2019 13:49:18 GMT -8
That's what reiterate means... "to state or do over again or repeatedly sometimes with wearying effect". Sort like the excuses repeatedly given.... even more wearying! And... HA... who else would I be "full of"? One of the dumbest colloquialisms ever. I am 100% positive that you are full of something else. There's a reason that you have 6 million posts and less than half of them are liked.......LOL.....LOL......LOL LOL... and there is the guy who is not so full... of self worth!! You come on here to post and to be LIKED! Yeah... that kinda figures!
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