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Post by rmancarl on Feb 7, 2019 15:17:48 GMT -8
It's really going to be intriguing to see how all of this develops. One of the things Kennedy Brown has mentioned on more than one occasion is that SR (and I don't remember the exact words) has a vision for her/what she can become. We all know that Kennedy doesn't want to be a traditional back to the basket post, so I'm guessing her vision of herself, and SR's version must be somewhat aligned, or she wouldn't of chosen Oregon State.
I can only guess that SR told Jelena his vision/plan for her as well. Does that plan call for her to redshirt? I don't know. Coach doesn't have a history of redshirtting that much. Although some on here already have her as a star from the get go, I'm more likely to be found in the "it would be nice for her to redshirt" crowd. For one, I haven't given up on Patricia Morris, and I think Trish has a real shot at being a good post player for the Beavs. I have no idea how Kennedy, Taylor, and Andrea fit into the total plan for Post, PW, or even SF. It's going to be fun to watch. Now it's time to go land a couple of those big time guards for 2020.
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Post by bvrbooster on Feb 7, 2019 16:38:51 GMT -8
Not much history of redshirting?(Breanna) Brown, Green, Aquino - they all come to mind in recent years.
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Post by jegerklog on Feb 7, 2019 17:06:16 GMT -8
This thread has a lot of interesting posts generally addressing the question “What the hell are we going to do with all of these big people” resulting in a wide variety of possible strategies. It is perhaps even more complicated for me because I feel that Morris has great potential. I base this partly on her basic athletic ability, particularly for someone who is 6’7”. Being a three sport athlete in high school with an emphasis on academics meant less emphasis on basketball and there is some catch time especially in a system with a complicated defense. There is at least a 20 % chance that I am right on this.
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Post by rmancarl on Feb 7, 2019 19:38:51 GMT -8
I guess that is exactly what I meant. Along with SR' statements about not being big on redshirting, that many doesn't doesn't seem like much to me. But, you are correct, this is Basketball, not football, and overall there aren't that many redshirts in basketball. If it had been me, I probably would have redshirted Morris too....maybe even Simmons, but we are all lucky it isn't me. I would have made a mess out of a talented team.
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Post by rmancarl on Feb 7, 2019 21:40:42 GMT -8
Go Beavs!
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Post by blackbug on Feb 7, 2019 21:53:06 GMT -8
Under Rueck the roster is almost always 11-13. 1 year it was 14. He averages 3-4 scholarships not being utilized. There is always scholarship room for any player Rueck wants to recruit. The roster reflects his philosophy of rarely redshirting, while having at least some playing time for every player on the roster. Green and Aquino were/are injury redshirts. Brown is the only redshirt Rueck has had that was not decided by injury or transfer. Although, from my memory of the article about this it appeared that Brown went to Rueck to ask that she could redshirt. The only redshirts under Rueck were/are Brown, Aquino, Green, and Slocum (unless I missed an injury redshirt in his first couple of years, there were definitely none by choice in that period).
Rueck has room on the roster as Mitrovic puts the roster at 13 next year if no one leaves. This is the max of where Rueck wants to be. So the roster will be right for Rueck and we know he and his staff like Mitrovic's skill set. Rueck likes game planning height and size. Mitrovic will play next year barring injury or other unforeseen events, the only question is how much.
The questions or premises of the discussion revolve around whether players will be satisfied with playing time; therefore there this is some plans afoot to separate players with the same amount of eligibility left. This is assuming that players will be dissatisfied with their role or that incoming/existing players will demand to be the focal point. This could happen, but at this time just as Rueck has in the past, I would assume he would recruit to the number and types of players wanted and work to help each individual see their value to a successful team. Redshirting is just not part of this plan.
What I think Rueck's vision is versatility. He sees a 6"9" player at center, another 6'9" player that could play 3-4 positions, a 6'6" player that could play 3-4 positions, a 6'3" player that could player 2 positions, another 6'3" player that can play 3-4 positions, a 6'7" player that can play 2 positions, a 5'10" player that can play 4 positions, a 6'1" player that can play 3 positions, a 6'2" player that can play 2 positions, 2 guards that can play all guard positions, and 2 other versatile and quality guards.
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Post by greybeav on Feb 7, 2019 23:27:02 GMT -8
This looks like a really interesting interview, very informative, if only I spoke Serbian:
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Feb 7, 2019 23:40:54 GMT -8
New picture at Jelena's twitter site. Couple familiar names following her..... Interesting to get a sense of scale of her feet from the basketball beneath it. In video as well she doesn't seem to stumble or bumble excessively.
Novi Korak = new step. Go Beavers!
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 9, 2019 0:29:31 GMT -8
You don't need to understand Serbian to follow this slide-show.
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Post by greybeav on Feb 9, 2019 9:29:07 GMT -8
News is scarce, I found this short article originally in Bosnian, via Google Translate: basketballsphere.com/jelena-mitrovic-izabrala-oregon-stejt/Serbia will have another representative in America from autumn! Jelena Mitrovic, the sister of former Red Star captain Luke Mitrovic who has chosen Oregon Steyt's scholarship. It is an extremely talented basketball player who plays in the center position, is 205 centimeters high and in January she was 18 years old. Iowa, Arizona State and Ratgers were nominated for it, but Jelena chose Oregon State in the women's NCAA League (WNCAA), who is a member of the Pac-12 conference. Oregon State is currently the seventh-ranked school on the Top 25 list, second-placed in the Pac-12, with a record 9-1 in the conference, or 19-3 in total since the start of the season. How high the opinion they have about her is that she is rated as a talent with a maximum of five stars, and that she is predicting a great career in WNBA .. Jelena plays for Novi Sad "ŽKA" and this season in the First League average score of 20.1 points and 14.9 rebounds per match. Last season with the Serbian national team in the UEFA European Under-18 Championship in Udine (Italy), they had an average of 11.7 points, 11.3 rebounds and 1.7 assists per game in seven games.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Feb 9, 2019 10:55:12 GMT -8
This came from Eurobasket News in January:
“Center Jelena Mitrovic (204-C-01) had an amazing evening in the last round for Novosadska ZKA, receiving a Interperformances Player of the Week award for round 16.
The 17-year old player had a double-double of 29 points and 25 rebounds, while her team beat Vrbas Medela (#8, 6-10) 85-77. Novosadska ZKA is placed at 3rd position in Serbian 1 ZLS. They would have been even better if they hadn't lost a few games earlier this season. Novosadska ZKA will need more victories to improve their 12-4 record. In the team's last game Mitrovic had a remarkable 55.6% from 2-point range. She has many years of experience at Novosadska ZKA, through which she has constantly improved. Jelena Mitrovic has solid league stats. She is in league's top in points (3rd best: 19.1ppg) and averages impressive 2.2bpg and 50.5% FGP.”
25 boards is flat out impressive. I have no clue regarding the level of competition her club team is on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 13:52:11 GMT -8
Jelena Mitrovic (C 6’9”, 2001) from Serbia. After Udine 2016 FIBA U16 As a huge knowledge of women basketball said, “Jelena maybe is not the faster player I have never seen”, but Jelena has a huge body and knows about the game. Her size (6’8”) is really impressive at this stage, but her athleticism and mobility are still growing. Although she struggles running up and down, she is able to play for a long lap-time. The Serbian also has big hands (of course) to catch rebounds, but has not leaping ability and sometimes, although she usually keeps high the ball after the catch, she shows not enough intensity to retain the ball after the grab. Although she doesn’t display a great quickness, her footwork is really good playing back to the basket. Jelena also possesses an interesting passing skill set and a good enough vision court/knowledge: she is able to pass the ball (inside/outside) both in double team situations and finding a teammate cutting the paint. Mitrovic struggles putting the ball on the floor and sometimes lost her body balance when she is guarding from the contact (in fact she always is guarding from the contact, and has a huge patient…) Jelena displays a great shooting release from a FT’s range (reliable but bit slow release), and she is really good shooting from the block after a pivot-spin. Inside the paint, Mitorvic shows a soft touch in the bank shots. Despite of her lack of (great) mobility, her wingspan, size and knowledge allow Jelena to be a great shot-blocker and rim protector. From the weak side, Mitrovic is a quite good defender deflecting passes due to her knowledge. Jelena is a prospect with a huge body and good knowledge/fundamentals who only needs to improve her athleticism in the correct way. Her mood is always a fact to follow carefully. JM analysis from a couple years ago
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 16, 2019 18:10:26 GMT -8
Sounds like the answer to the question: "What if our coaches had Jo Grymek for four years instead of just two?". As well as, "What if Jo had started playing basketball before age 16?"
And . . . "What if Jo was an inch taller?"
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Post by greybeav on Feb 16, 2019 18:22:48 GMT -8
Speaking of Jo, getting off topic maybe, but watching her games pre-OSU confuses me, is it the level of competition only, or was she just more confident , or ?, she just looks like a stronger player, and check out this pic, look at the vertical she is getting back then. I think JM has tons of upside and I agree, getting her for 4 years....huge !
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Feb 16, 2019 19:02:09 GMT -8
I am very excited for Jelena. With all these posts coming in, the variety of styles we can play is endless.
We can go small ball with Jones at the 5 - who moves tremendously well and gets up the court really quickly. With her abnormally long arms and legs out there, she is like a gazelle. This would be a really uptempo style of play, likely with Destiny at the 1.
We can go HUGE with Brown at the 3, Aquino at the 4, and Morris/Mitrovic at the 5. This lineup would be unreal, possibly one of the biggest to step foot on the floor in WCBB.
We can go with 5 outside threats with Corosdale at the 4 and Aquino/Brown at the 5.
It will also help having so many options defensively, where we can choose who is the best matchup for the other team.
In regards to Mitrovic’s similarities with Jo, there certainly are a few. Both come from Europe, both are 6’8”+, and neither are the quickest. With that being said, I think Mitrovic may have a little edge in certain categories. I think she moves better in the half court and I think she is stronger than Jo. Jo has no doubt gotten tremendously better at both of these things (hands and frame). Jo gets up and down the court quite well for 6’8” these days, which is the major area Mitrovic needs improvement. At this point, comparing and contrasting these two players is very intriguing.
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