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Post by lotrader on Mar 26, 2018 6:25:30 GMT -8
Whether or not Pivec is a starter is immaterial. Pivec will have as many minutes at OSU as anyone except maybe TC & KM. Pivec's stock went up, not down, from this year's season. Rueck loves Pivec. Pivec only improved from her experience this year, learning how to handle the basketball as a PG. This year's experience for Pivec only made her more valuable to Rueck. Where does anyone get the idea that the freshman guard from Aussie land is going to start? That is crazy talk. The most important issue is replacing Marie, not who is going to play the point or wings. We are stocked at the point and wings now.
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 26, 2018 7:20:48 GMT -8
I wouldn't be surprised if Katie spends time at the 5. Assuming that the freshmen aren't immediately ready and Jo remains the Jo we know and love, I could Scott going with a "put the best five players on the court" line-up - Destiny, Mik, Kat, Taya, and Katie.
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Post by 411500 on Mar 26, 2018 7:49:25 GMT -8
Until the new kids prove they are able to handle the job - and when was the last time a Frosh started in the post for the Beavs - - I think bennyskid's observation rings true. Play your best 5 (6 or 7)....
Many of us thought, only a year ago, how is Coach going to replace Sydney. We had a guard oriented offence and the guard is now gone.
This year we had a Post oriented offense and the post is now gone...
The common sense observation that most of us agree on right now is that no one on the current roster is skilled enough to play the post 25 minutes per game.
If that remains true in November the idea of "play your best 5" will look more and more like the best option....
This year we played an entire season without a true point guard. Next year we may play the entire season without a true post player....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 8:00:07 GMT -8
I wouldn't be surprised if Katie spends time at the 5. Assuming that the freshmen aren't immediately ready and Jo remains the Jo we know and love, I could Scott going with a "put the best five players on the court" line-up - Destiny, Mik, Kat, Taya, and Katie. I don't see any way that neither of the new F/C girls (PM or AA) provides enough defensive intimidation and rebounding advantage to justify keeping both of them out of the starting lineup. No, at least one of the 5 players you mention is going to have to come off the bench. And if you've watched Simmons' videos and are cognizant of the breadth of her experience and basketball IQ, you can't totally discount the possibility that she could start sometime later in the season: She's not your average freshman. She has precisely some of the qualities that ALL of our current players were lacking this year: Aggressively attacking the basket and quick on-the-fly passing decisions. If we're going to be competitive against the top teams like Louisville, she's the kind of player we will need. |
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 26, 2018 8:03:54 GMT -8
I wouldn't be surprised if Katie spends time at the 5. Assuming that the freshmen aren't immediately ready and Jo remains the Jo we know and love, I could Scott going with a "put the best five players on the court" line-up - Destiny, Mik, Kat, Taya, and Katie. And if you've watched Simmons' videos and are cognizant of the breadth of her experience and basketball IQ, you can't totally discount the possibility that she could start sometime later in the season: She's not your average freshman. She has precisely some of the qualities that ALL of our current players were lacking this year: Aggressively attacking the basket and quick on-the-fly passing decisions. If we're going to be competitive against the top teams like Louisville, she's the kind of player we will need. Against what level of competition? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 8:07:35 GMT -8
And if you've watched Simmons' videos and are cognizant of the breadth of her experience and basketball IQ, you can't totally discount the possibility that she could start sometime later in the season: She's not your average freshman. She has precisely some of the qualities that ALL of our current players were lacking this year: Aggressively attacking the basket and quick on-the-fly passing decisions. If we're going to be competitive against the top teams like Louisville, she's the kind of player we will need. Against what level of competition? Against the top players in the USA and other nations in the 2016 U17 FIBA games, for example. She had an injured hand vs the USA in those games, but in the prior game (vs Czechoslovakia, I think) she had something like 17 points and 14 rebounds. She runs the fast break like a veteran. I see her as a Brittany McPhee-type player, but better than Brittany. As a reply to those who say a freshman can't start, note that McPhee started 8 games for Stanford as a frosh. Video includes highlights vs CZ and France |
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 26, 2018 9:02:24 GMT -8
She really is exciting.
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Post by skyrider on Mar 26, 2018 9:50:19 GMT -8
My question for the group is-Are we underestimating how difficult it is going to be to replace Marie?".
It is, of course, open to debate but she may be the best OSU women's basketball player ever.
I think she has a much better chance to do well in the WNBA than either Ruth, Jamie, or Sydney.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 9:55:30 GMT -8
My question for the group is-Are we underestimating how difficult it is going to be to replace Marie?". It is, of course, open to debate but she may be the best OSU women's basketball player ever. I think she has a much better chance to do well in the WNBA than either Ruth, Jamie, or Sydney. I don't think anyone's underestimating the difficulty of replacing Marie. My hope is that PM and AA could each give us maybe 10 ppg. And on the defensive end, they won't have the quickness and timing of Marie, but they're taller and just the extra height will be a huge advantage. AA averaged 6 blocks per game in NJ, and PM averaged 3 blocks per game in the 2016/17 season. If we can attribute Marie's improvement to the concentrated attention of assistant coach Katie Baker, then who knows what these girls are capable of? |
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 26, 2018 10:22:29 GMT -8
Against what level of competition? Against the top players in the USA and other nations in the 2016 U17 FIBA games, for example. She had an injured hand vs the USA in those games, but in the prior game (vs Czechoslovakia, I think) she had something like 17 points and 14 rebounds. She runs the fast break like a veteran. I see her as a Brittany McPhee-type player, but better than Brittany. As a reply to those who say a freshman can't start, note that McPhee started 8 games for Stanford as a frosh. Video includes highlights vs CZ and FranceI hope she's the next coming of Felicia Ragland, but those highlights don't impress much. |
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Post by skyrider on Mar 26, 2018 10:27:11 GMT -8
Against the top players in the USA and other nations in the 2016 U17 FIBA games, for example. She had an injured hand vs the USA in those games, but in the prior game (vs Czechoslovakia, I think) she had something like 17 points and 14 rebounds. She runs the fast break like a veteran. I see her as a Brittany McPhee-type player, but better than Brittany. As a reply to those who say a freshman can't start, note that McPhee started 8 games for Stanford as a frosh. Video includes highlights vs CZ and FranceI hope she's the next coming of Felicia Ragland, but those highlights don't impress much. Interesting how we can both look at the exact same highlights and come up with a totally different conclusion- I was very impressed with both her physical talent and her basketball I.Q. Go Beavers! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 10:31:43 GMT -8
Against the top players in the USA and other nations in the 2016 U17 FIBA games, for example. She had an injured hand vs the USA in those games, but in the prior game (vs Czechoslovakia, I think) she had something like 17 points and 14 rebounds. She runs the fast break like a veteran. I see her as a Brittany McPhee-type player, but better than Brittany. As a reply to those who say a freshman can't start, note that McPhee started 8 games for Stanford as a frosh. Video includes highlights vs CZ and FranceI hope she's the next coming of Felicia Ragland, but those highlights don't impress much. Then you wouldn't be impressed by Mikayla Pivec's HS tape, either, unless you're just continuing your feats of ratiocination rationalization: And Jazz was a Sophomore on that first tape, whereas Mikayla was a senior on the video above. |
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Post by osu82 on Mar 26, 2018 10:32:58 GMT -8
My question for the group is-Are we underestimating how difficult it is going to be to replace Marie?". It is, of course, open to debate but she may be the best OSU women's basketball player ever. I think she has a much better chance to do well in the WNBA than either Ruth, Jamie, or Sydney. I don't know about "best ever", but she certainly had a great senior season. I always liked Weisner's game. I agree with your comments about Marie's WNBA prospects. I've felt that losing Marie is going to be more of an impact to this team than the graduation of Wiese, Brown, et al was off last year's squad. Its huge, and is going to change the way OSU plays. I don't see Grymek stepping in unless she has a massive improvement in her game over the off-season. And the jury is out on the new bigs, but I suspect they're both pretty raw. I believe Aquino has only been playing organized basketball for a couple years and I'd be surprised if her game is D-1 ready. Lots of height, of course, but it will be interesting to see her level of coordination and athleticism. I think playing "best five" is probably the way its going to go. Slocum is going to start. I can't see a two-year starter (Pivec) going to the bench, so I'd see her at the "2", Tudor at "3", KTMac at 4, with perhaps Corosdale playing post. I could also see some kids--I'd put Kalmer, Thropay, and perhaps Washington in this group--transferring out due to lack of PT, so it will be interesting to see what happens there. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 26, 2018 10:43:17 GMT -8
I wouldn't be surprised if Katie spends time at the 5. Assuming that the freshmen aren't immediately ready and Jo remains the Jo we know and love, I could Scott going with a "put the best five players on the court" line-up - Destiny, Mik, Kat, Taya, and Katie. I would be very surprised if Katie at 6'-2" and thin build, "spends time" at center (5) next year. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 26, 2018 10:49:52 GMT -8
It'll be curious to see what happens with a couple players... do you leave to have a good shot at starting elsewhere, or do you stay and have a good shot at being a solid bench contributor on a top 10 (or better) contender?
I think the gals may approach things a bit differently than a lot of guys do. I'm not sure how many female players in college have pro basketball aspirations or fancies of being the big fish in any pond compared to males of that age.
It's amazing that the Beaver women's program has grown to the point that very good players may be in the position to consider moving on for more playing time.
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