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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 16:42:07 GMT -8
There is no way that Pivec doesn't start next year. All hustle and heart and the toughness we gotta have from someone on the court. 100% Agree. Pivec will be the heart and soul of the team for the next two years. She does so, so many things that do not just show up in the box score. No, Destiny Slocum will be the heart and soul of this team for the next 3 years. Pivec lacks the leadership skills and innate natural talent of Destiny. Pivec will be one of 6 players competing for 2 open spots. Taya, one of our new bigs, and Destiny are starters. The other 6 players (the other big, goodman, tudor, mcwilliams, pivec, and simmons) could be used on an as-needed per-game basis. 3 of those 6 are better ballhandlers than Pivec, 1 is better at driving to the basket than Pivec, at least 3 of them are better shooters than Pivec, 1 is probably a better rebounder than Pivec. Simmons will eventually be superior to Pivec in all aspects, probably by her 2nd year. There's no guarantee that Pivec will be a starter. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 25, 2018 16:54:13 GMT -8
the 100% Agree. Pivec will be the heart and soul of the team for the next two years. She does so, so many things that do not just show up in the box score. No, Destiny Slocum will be the heart and soul of this team for the next 3 years. Pivec lacks the leadership skills and innate natural talent of Destiny. Pivec will be one of 6 players competing for 2 open spots. Taya, one of our new bigs, and Destiny are starters. The other 6 players (the other big, goodman, tudor, mcwilliams, pivec, and simmons) could be used on an as-needed per-game basis. 3 of those 6 are better ballhandlers than Pivec, 1 is better at driving to the basket than Pivec, at least 3 of them are better shooters than Pivec, 1 is probably a better rebounder than Pivec. Simmons will eventually be superior to Pivec in all aspects. There's no guarantee that Pivec will be a starter. There is no guarantee that your prognostications will be proven correct either. I admire your certitude but it's just your opinion. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 25, 2018 16:58:47 GMT -8
I believe that Simmons is a wing, not a point guard. Goodman actually is a point guard who will share time with DS.
Is it rumor that TK may be transferring or is there some truth in it? She has some strong supporters among beaver nation but without some serious improvement in her defense her playing time will remain limited.
KtMac will start and continue to play big minutes, she shared leadership with Marie and next year she is going to be our primary leader. Who is going to share those responsibilities with her will be decided in a month or two when the team votes leaders for summer practices. With Marie in Germany a lot of last summer it fell on KtMac to lead. KT had improved her defense and developed a good drive to the rim, I see her starting. Mik is a powerhouse for a guard but she wasn't able to play to her capability as a point, needs to take better care of the ball. Her rebounding will keep her in the loop. JS will see limited minutes to start and her play will dictate how much she sees the court as the season goes on.
Playing time for the bigs is all up in the air. TC is the best returning, came on strong at the end of the season. Can play high post or wing. Maddie's best position is high post but her inability to make baskets hurt her, she is not good at a wing. JT gives up height but has the strength to bang down low, another year of development could really help her. Remember what Rueck and Katie Baker can do with post players in the off season. Jo will probably start in the beginning and her playing will be based on her improving. That leaves the frosh twin towers, we won't know what we have until pac 12 play starts.
Interesting to see our offensive scheme, will it be one big, three wings and a point? High low posts, two wings and point?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 16:59:49 GMT -8
the No, Destiny Slocum will be the heart and soul of this team for the next 3 years. Pivec lacks the leadership skills and innate natural talent of Destiny. Pivec will be one of 6 players competing for 2 open spots. Taya, one of our new bigs, and Destiny are starters. The other 6 players (the other big, goodman, tudor, mcwilliams, pivec, and simmons) could be used on an as-needed per-game basis. 3 of those 6 are better ballhandlers than Pivec, 1 is better at driving to the basket than Pivec, at least 3 of them are better shooters than Pivec, 1 is probably a better rebounder than Pivec. Simmons will eventually be superior to Pivec in all aspects. There's no guarantee that Pivec will be a starter. There is no guarantee that your prognostications will be proven correct either. I admire your certitude but it's just your opinion. Exactly. It's just my opinion. The same as it is the opinion of others here that Pivec is the heart and soul of this team and a sure starter. Your statements apply equally to them. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 25, 2018 17:04:04 GMT -8
100% Agree. Pivec will be the heart and soul of the team for the next two years. She does so, so many things that do not just show up in the box score. No, Destiny Slocum will be the heart and soul of this team for the next 3 years. Pivec lacks the leadership skills and innate natural talent of Destiny. Pivec will be one of 6 players competing for 2 open spots. Taya, one of our new bigs, and Destiny are starters. The other 6 players (the other big, goodman, tudor, mcwilliams, pivec, and simmons) could be used on an as-needed per-game basis. 3 of those 6 are better ballhandlers than Pivec, 1 is better at driving to the basket than Pivec, at least 3 of them are better shooters than Pivec, 1 is probably a better rebounder than Pivec. Simmons will eventually be superior to Pivec in all aspects, probably by her 2nd year. There's no guarantee that Pivec will be a starter. No, DS as a point guard will be a leader on the court, not necessarily THE leader. KtMac is going to provide the senior leadership. |
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 25, 2018 17:25:37 GMT -8
Pivec wiil start. You are wrong. And there’s no way Simmons will play much. Actually not... as you are not... it's speculation... and Pivec could begin the season as a starter, but unless she develops a better release and a decent offensive game she will not be on the court much or lose a starting gig. It'll play out... good situation to have. I'm with Baseba1111 on this one - I think Simmons is a starter by conference play next year. And I think that because of her defense. Just a gut feeling of course. It will be interesting if Rueck decides to extend the pressure with a lot more bodies to play next year in the backcourt. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 25, 2018 17:50:47 GMT -8
It’s a nice problem to have. The bigger challenge will be filling the hole left by Marie with some very promising newcomers. The learning curve will be steep. Eric Ely will have to coach ‘em up quick.
Anyone know when Aquino and Morris arrive on campus?
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Mar 25, 2018 18:20:46 GMT -8
It’s a nice problem to have. The bigger challenge will be filling the hole left by Marie with some very promising newcomers. The learning curve will be steep. Eric Ely will have to coach ‘em up quick. Anyone know when Aquino and Morris arrive on campus? If past years are any indication, the newbies usually arrive on campus for summer school and to help out in the Rueck summer camps.....so June or July. Jo was still busy with the Polish National team, and so she was a later arrival. Might be the same with JS, but I expect AA and PM to show up in June/July. Marie's absence will be the big one, as noted. I do think SR will go to a different game philosophy next year, since he will have more capable guards and ball handlers in the back court, and he won't have Marie to initiate things inside out. Really depends on what Jo, AA and PM give him in the paint. Go Beavers! |
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 25, 2018 19:23:20 GMT -8
It’s a nice problem to have. The bigger challenge will be filling the hole left by Marie with some very promising newcomers. The learning curve will be steep. Eric Ely will have to coach ‘em up quick. Anyone know when Aquino and Morris arrive on campus? Is Eric Ely allowed to coach the players? I thought he transferred to Exec Admin or something. Wouldn't want him shagging balls in the summer you know |
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Post by willtalk on Mar 25, 2018 20:19:35 GMT -8
Who starts will depend on each players strength and weakness trade off in respect to what Rueck wants out of each position. That dynamic will also be impacted by the strengths and weaknesses of the in coming players. In evaluating each player we also need to figure if a player has hit their upside or if the off season can be or will used to improve of their weaknesses.
Having been on this site for most of this season I can see that many of you are not being objective as to each players up and down side in Scotts offense. There were things I saw most of this season that just made me want to tear out what little hair I have left. And by a comment Scott made at the end of his Baylor Presser he saw the same problem. He pretty much stated that often they were playing a different game on one side of the court than the offensive strategy called for. Casual fans watching games would often not be aware of it however. There was significant improvement towards the end of the season and in the playoffs, with certain players sporadically reverting back to their previous form.
Scott, as any good coach, has a vision for how he wants his offense and defense to run. His offense does not allow for to much one on one play. It lives and dies by ball movement that facilitates offensive flow. The point of that is to maximize and touches by each of the out side shooters so as to take advantage of which ever one of them is hot. You do not do that by over dribbling or keeping the ball on one side of the court. What this adds to a player requirement is floor vision and that was a serious weakness on this team.
What is also important to Scott is defense. That is what diminished Goodmans playing time even when she would have been an asset offensively. Every player has their strengths and weaknesses and their time on the floor will depend on whether the need for their strength out weighs the liability of their weaknesses.What the new incoming players bring to the team will impact that dynamic. How many of you thought that Kalmer would start this year based on last year? What we do know is that Slocum will take over the point and that will change the entire teams dynamic in respect to what is needed and what is expendable. Simmons is still another, but more unknown. We do know that Scott is not adverse to starting players as Freshman if he feels they fit the needs of the team.
I think what I might do is an evaluation of each player's strengths and weaknesses in respect to the needs of Scotts offense. There seems to be one aspect that most of you are totally ignoring and that aspect will impact the minutes of each player next season.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 25, 2018 21:02:28 GMT -8
Who starts will depend on each players strength and weakness trade off in respect to what Rueck wants out of each position.. I think what I might do is an evaluation of each player's strengths and weaknesses in respect to the needs of Scotts offense. There seems to be one aspect that most of you are totally ignoring and that aspect will impact the minutes of each player next season. Which player comes over and helps his kids with their homework - right? |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 25, 2018 21:12:07 GMT -8
Who starts will depend on each players strength and weakness trade off in respect to what Rueck wants out of each position. That dynamic will also be impacted by the strengths and weaknesses of the in coming players. In evaluating each player we also need to figure if a player has hit their upside or if the off season can be or will used to improve of their weaknesses. Having been on this site for most of this season I can see that many of you are not being objective as to each players up and down side in Scotts offense. There were things I saw most of this season that just made me want to tear out what little hair I have left. And by a comment Scott made at the end of his Baylor Presser he saw the same problem. He pretty much stated that often they were playing a different game on one side of the court than the offensive strategy called for. Casual fans watching games would often not be aware of it however. There was significant improvement towards the end of the season and in the playoffs, with certain players sporadically reverting back to their previous form. Scott, as any good coach, has a vision for how he wants his offense and defense to run. His offense does not allow for to much one on one play. It lives and dies by ball movement that facilitates offensive flow. The point of that is to maximize and touches by each of the out side shooters so as to take advantage of which ever one of them is hot. You do not do that by over dribbling or keeping the ball on one side of the court. What this adds to a player requirement is floor vision and that was a serious weakness on this team. What is also important to Scott is defense. That is what diminished Goodmans playing time even when she would have been an asset offensively. Every player has their strengths and weaknesses and their time on the floor will depend on whether the need for their strength out weighs the liability of their weaknesses.What the new incoming players bring to the team will impact that dynamic. How many of you thought that Kalmer would start this year based on last year? What we do know is that Slocum will take over the point and that will change the entire teams dynamic in respect to what is needed and what is expendable. Simmons is still another, but more unknown. We do know that Scott is not adverse to starting players as Freshman if he feels they fit the needs of the team. I think what I might do is an evaluation of each player's strengths and weaknesses in respect to the needs of Scotts offense. There seems to be one aspect that most of you are totally ignoring and that aspect will impact the minutes of each player next season. I await enlightenment, fearing only that the room may not be big enough for you and another member of this board. How fortunate for the rest of us. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 25, 2018 21:15:21 GMT -8
It’s a nice problem to have. The bigger challenge will be filling the hole left by Marie with some very promising newcomers. The learning curve will be steep. Eric Ely will have to coach ‘em up quick. Anyone know when Aquino and Morris arrive on campus? Is Eric Ely allowed to coach the players? I thought he transferred to Exec Admin or something. Wouldn't want him shagging balls in the summer you know Not sure if he can coach our not but the last couple years Katie Baker has been the post coach |
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Post by boydo on Mar 25, 2018 21:26:09 GMT -8
I think it is going to come down to Tudor and Pivek competing for the 2 spot. DS, TC, KM and a new big are probably locks.
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 25, 2018 21:49:00 GMT -8
I think figuring out how to spread out the minutes next season is going to be SR's second greatest coaching challenge while at OSU.
Center- It's Jo's job, hope it works out. Her ave. points was 4 and reb. 3 at 9 min. a game. At 28 min. a game that's 12 points and 9 reb. That's good enough if she can keep it up.
Forward- Taya game was coming together at the end of the season. Can't see taking her improved play and height out of the starting lineup. Backed up by KtMc.
PG- Destiny with Aleah backing up is what I'm hoping.
Off Guard- Kat backed up by Jasmine
Sorta Forward- Mik for her rebounding backed up by KtMc
KtMc a backup? No playtime for TK, Maddie or the Songbird? This is OUTRAGEOUS. Um, ok what if.......
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