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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 9, 2017 18:24:04 GMT -8
Frost? Strong? Kiffin? Bobby Bowden out of retirement?
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Post by ag87 on Nov 9, 2017 18:31:04 GMT -8
If true, my incredibly uneducated guess would be 65% chance Kiffin, 23% Frost, 5% McE, 5% Strong, 2% Davis, 0% Fisher and Richt.
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Post by orangeattack on Nov 9, 2017 18:32:16 GMT -8
McElwain wouldn't be the worst hire in the world but definitely isn't blowing my skirt up.
It makes sense though. This is what OSU can afford to bring in, a guy who is looking to rebuild his tarnished reputation. We will get him well below the market average, and see if he has some of that Riley type magic.
Would McElwain keep Baldwin?? He didn't take him to Florida so you would think maybe there's some hard feelings.. but maybe not. Watch McElwain try to get HIS CSU Band back together.
I have a bad feeling this is gonna be a rinse and repeat cycle for a few generations of my life. Sure am glad I was lucky enough to have season tix for Riley and Erickson.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 19:09:08 GMT -8
I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat but don't buy any of this. If Barnes is talking to anyone directly about the job before 11/20 he is violating Oregon law. The search firm is doing all the talking right now.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 9, 2017 19:15:09 GMT -8
I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat but don't buy any of this. If Barnes is talking to anyone directly about the job before 11/20 he is violating Oregon law. The search firm is doing all the talking right now. But, Barnes stated he had his own list and can be vetting someone thru references, colleagues.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 19:19:55 GMT -8
I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat but don't buy any of this. If Barnes is talking to anyone directly about the job before 11/20 he is violating Oregon law. The search firm is doing all the talking right now. But, Barnes stated he had his own list and can be vetting someone thru references, colleagues. I don't know the law on that but he shouldn't be talking to an applicant directly. And I think if he were talking to/about any potential candidate (i.e. any coach with 3 years of D1 experience) with anyone prior to 11/20 he'd be in violation of the law. But I could be wrong. I've been on hiring committees for public employee jobs, the rules are pretty strict. If we wanted additional information from 1 candidate we had to come up with an identical question that could be asked to all candidates still under consideration. I'm sure Barnes is making contact with people over the phone but I can't see him flying to Florida to do so. That would be hard to explain away as simply talking to a colleague.
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Post by seastape on Nov 9, 2017 19:22:01 GMT -8
I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat but don't buy any of this. If Barnes is talking to anyone directly about the job before 11/20 he is violating Oregon law. The search firm is doing all the talking right now. How is he violating Oregon law? I am not trying to be a smart aleck or whip you grief, but I am curious as to how this violates Oregon law. Once the position is posted, is Barnes not allowed to speak to applicants until the position is closed by Oregon law? Is there something in Oregon law that prevents an employer from speaking to potential candidates if that person has hired a headhunter/search firm? Is there something in Oregon law that prohibits an employer from speaking to potential candidates while a posted position is still accepting applications/remains open? Are there special rules that apply to state controlled agencies? If so, what are they?
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 9, 2017 19:24:43 GMT -8
I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat but don't buy any of this. If Barnes is talking to anyone directly about the job before 11/20 he is violating Oregon law. The search firm is doing all the talking right now. If you're correct, that law makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 19:30:28 GMT -8
I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat but don't buy any of this. If Barnes is talking to anyone directly about the job before 11/20 he is violating Oregon law. The search firm is doing all the talking right now. How is he violating Oregon law? I am not trying to be a smart aleck or whip you grief, but I am curious as to how this violates Oregon law. Once the position is posted, is Barnes not allowed to speak to applicants until the position is closed by Oregon law? Is there something in Oregon law that prevents an employer from speaking to potential candidates if that person has hired a headhunter/search firm? Is there something in Oregon law that prohibits an employer from speaking to potential candidates while a posted position is still accepting applications/remains open? Are there special rules that apply to state controlled agencies? If so, what are they? I am not an expert on this, just going by what I have been told when I've been on hiring committees as a public employee. We aren't allowed to even view the applicant pool until the job closes and I've been told that is because it violates Oregon law for public job openings.
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 9, 2017 19:33:53 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm sure that's how Whoregon "found" Slick Willie Taggert. Oh, hey! Look who applied! Cool!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 19:36:11 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm sure that's how Whoregon "found" Slick Willie Taggert. Oh, hey! Look who applied! Cool! Did they use a search firm? That is why you hire a search firm, they can go to potential candidates and have them apply. I'm sure Taggert applied before the deadline. Note: I am not saying the law doesn't get violated just that I doubt Oregon's AD flew to Florida to talk to Taggert prior to the job closing.
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 9, 2017 19:44:33 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm sure that's how Whoregon "found" Slick Willie Taggert. Oh, hey! Look who applied! Cool! Did they use a search firm? That is why you hire a search firm, they can go to potential candidates and have them apply. I'm sure Taggert applied before the deadline. Note: I am not saying the law doesn't get violated just that I doubt Oregon's AD flew to Florida to talk to Taggert prior to the job closing. Then you are naive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 19:46:36 GMT -8
Did they use a search firm? That is why you hire a search firm, they can go to potential candidates and have them apply. I'm sure Taggert applied before the deadline. Note: I am not saying the law doesn't get violated just that I doubt Oregon's AD flew to Florida to talk to Taggert prior to the job closing. Then you are naive. Do you have evidence the AD flew to Florida to talk to Taggert before the job closed? Do you have evidence Taggert didn't apply for the job? How am I naive? I clearly say the law gets violated, I just don't think Barnes would be stupid enough to do it so blatantly. And I don't see any evidence that UO's AD flew to Florida prior to the job closing either. But sure, call me naive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 19:51:08 GMT -8
How is he violating Oregon law? I am not trying to be a smart aleck or whip you grief, but I am curious as to how this violates Oregon law. Once the position is posted, is Barnes not allowed to speak to applicants until the position is closed by Oregon law? Is there something in Oregon law that prevents an employer from speaking to potential candidates if that person has hired a headhunter/search firm? Is there something in Oregon law that prohibits an employer from speaking to potential candidates while a posted position is still accepting applications/remains open? Are there special rules that apply to state controlled agencies? If so, what are they? I am not an expert on this, just going by what I have been told when I've been on hiring committees as a public employee. We aren't allowed to even view the applicant pool until the job closes and I've been told that is because it violates Oregon law for public job openings. I'm not sure I would post that someone is breaking the law when all you have is what one person has told you
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 19:53:52 GMT -8
I am not an expert on this, just going by what I have been told when I've been on hiring committees as a public employee. We aren't allowed to even view the applicant pool until the job closes and I've been told that is because it violates Oregon law for public job openings. I'm not sure I would post that someone is breaking the law when all you have is what one person has told you I didn't accuse anyone of anything, I said "I am not buying any of this" In other words, I don't buy that Barnes is in Florida talking to potential coaches therefore I am in no way accusing him or anyone of breaking the law. (And its not what "one person", its the 5th biggest school district in the state and I've been on multiple hiring committees, they probably know the law)
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