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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 14, 2017 7:34:16 GMT -8
I think so. I hope so.
Last year was a dumpster fire of course. but unlike our football program, I feel that Tinkle earned the "social capital", if you will, to be allowed a flop of a season. Early injury to your best player, freshman in important positions, and a season that went sideways got us that.
We have a healthy (hopefully for a season...) Tres, returning Eubanks, a seasoned PG, a stud freshman contributor. All and all things point towards a much more successful year ahead for us. I am thinking we are back to a respectable amount of wins. I am going to say 17 and a shot at the NIT. big turn around, but I do not believe we were really as actually bad as we were last year.
we have a weak OOC, and I think we can pull of 8 conference wins. Most of our home games, and steal one or two on the road.
Just my uneducated thoughts. but after this season on the gridiron, we are sure gonna need something to cheer for. A revitalized, resurgent and competitive MBB would surely be a great story line after a dark fall.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 7:53:05 GMT -8
I expect more. Last year we had just 5 players who deserved to be on the court:
2 healthy centers 0 healthy forwards 3 decent guards (Thompson, McLaughlin, Manuel)
This year we've got DEPTH:
3 centers (N'diaye is back, Rakocevic improved) 4 healthy forwards (Tres, Kone, Berger, Hollins) 5 decent guards (added Ethan Thompson and Zach Reichle)
And with only 5 Pac-12 caliber players, we still were ahead of AZ by 2 points at the half. We lost to Cal by just 5 in the tournament. This team faded in the 2nd half in several games just due to a lack of depth. Eubanks is re-energized, and Tres Tinkle will be a dynamo out there. Ethan will surprise people.
No more dead-tired players dragging up and down the court this year. I'm thinking 20+ wins. Hoping, anyway.
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 14, 2017 8:29:13 GMT -8
I expect more. Last year we had just 5 players who deserved to be on the court: 2 healthy centers 0 healthy forwards 3 decent guards (Thompson, McLaughlin, Manuel) This year we've got DEPTH: 3 centers (N'diaye is back, Rakocevic improved) 4 healthy forwards (Tres, Kone, Berger, Hollins) 5 decent guards (added Ethan Thompson and Zach Reichle) No more dead-tired players dragging up and down the court this year. I'm thinking 20+ wins. Hoping, anyway. Certainly would be a pleasant surprise. but I will be a bit of a realist. I will say, the great thing about Basketball is literally one or two players can make or break a team. It can be that dramatic, that fast. We are going from having barely 7 players to suit to a full 15. W I think Quori will be night and day better as A. a year experienced and B. having pressure come off him with healthy Tres and Ethan as a shooting threat/second ball handler. I like that we have two really good forwards that can work the paint in Eubanks and Tres. I like that we have talented shooters at guards. I think we are servicable at Center. I think PG is a bit of a weak link, but it isn't necessarily our heel either. I do believe JaQuori will be significantly improved this season. A lot of pressure will come off him with Tres back, and if Ethan is on the court and lives up to the expectations.
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Post by beaverinohio on Sept 14, 2017 9:34:44 GMT -8
Yes. As I posted on another thread, I'd be extremely disappointed if they don't at least make the NIT. And I think they have a decent shot at the Big Dance. After Tres being back (and staying healthy for the whole season), I'm most excited about the depth. As bad as last season was, the one silver lining was that Manuel, Jacquori, and to some extent Kone got some good experience. Add in Berger, N'daiye back for final year, and the freshmen and we should have the depth to stay fresh and actually maybe run some. One benefit of having some cupcakes on the nonconference schedule is that we'll get a chance to see the freshmen and Kone play. All signs point to Ethan being a big contributor, but I'm interested in getting a better read on Hollins and Reichle, and how much they might contribute during the conference slate. Heck I'm even interested in seeing Xavier Smith in some of the early games.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Sept 14, 2017 9:55:06 GMT -8
I think a good season would be the NIT, good non-conference record, flirting with .500 in conference play. A great season would have us listed as an entry on the "one of the biggest season-to-season turnarounds" graphics ESPN puts up, 20+ wins, Big Dance.
An amazing season would be for us to actually advance in the tourney, either tourney. I like where the WBB program has gotten to - the expectation of not only making it to the post season, but sticking around in the post season for at least the first 2-3 rounds.
Go Beavers!!
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Post by bill82 on Sept 14, 2017 10:41:59 GMT -8
I don't hold much hope for a breakout season. Better, but not an NCAA team. It seems the trajectory of teams are set by freshman and sophomores. Ours have not shown much. We always seem to lament the youth of our teams, but the NCAA brackets are full of teams led by underclassmen. Our players will be better as juniors, but other schools are bringing in frosh and sophs that can compete right away. If Ethan lights it up perhaps it will change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 11:03:02 GMT -8
I'll go on record as predicting this: 11-1 in non-conference, 10-8 in conference, 1-1 in the tournament. That makes us 22-10 and an NCAA team. I see wins over UT/CO, @cal/S, UW/WSU(2), plus a couple upset home wins from among UCLA/USC, UA/ASU, and Oregon. But, of course, I could be wrong.
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Post by mbabeav on Sept 14, 2017 12:00:13 GMT -8
I think we are going to be a vastly superior team - we were almost wiped out by injuries last season. Maybe not NCAA, but 20 win NIT would be a really good turnaround season after last year.
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 14, 2017 12:11:31 GMT -8
I'll go on record as predicting this: 11-1 in non-conference, 10-8 in conference, 1-1 in the tournament. That makes us 22-10 and an NCAA team. I see wins over UT/CO, @cal/S, UW/WSU(2), plus a couple upset home wins from among UCLA/USC, UA/ASU, and Oregon. But, of course, I could be wrong. I will have what you are having!
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 14, 2017 12:23:27 GMT -8
I'll go on record as predicting this: 11-1 in non-conference, 10-8 in conference, 1-1 in the tournament. That makes us 22-10 and an NCAA team. I see wins over UT/CO, @cal/S, UW/WSU(2), plus a couple upset home wins from among UCLA/USC, UA/ASU, and Oregon. But, of course, I could be wrong. I will have what you are having! We'll have better talent... but now have to mesh that talent and play with some better attitudes. Too much emphasis was placed on injuries. Yep, it affected depth and talent level, but our demeanor and court presence should have been much better. I'm curious to see how key guys respond when things go south during a game, and how or if the younger guys follow or??? I see a jump cuz it can't get much worse... 8-4 (there is a learning curve and in hoops there is more disparity)... 8-10 (Pac12 is going to be tough!!)... 1-1... 17-15 gets NIT if we had a couple good Pac12 wins.
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Post by jdogge on Sept 14, 2017 12:55:17 GMT -8
I will have what you are having! We'll have better talent... but now have to mesh that talent and play with some better attitudes. Too much emphasis was placed on injuries. Yep, it affected depth and talent level, but our demeanor and court presence should have been much better. I'm curious to see how key guys respond when things go south during a game, and how or if the younger guys follow or??? I see a jump cuz it can't get much worse... 8-4 (there is a learning curve and in hoops there is more disparity)... 8-10 (Pac12 is going to be tough!!)... 1-1... 17-15 gets NIT if we had a couple good Pac12 wins. You know, having a positive outlook is like working a muscle: repetition is good. If you try just a little harder, you might see a twenty win season. This will improve how you see the world in general and allow the rest of us to bask in the glow of your newer, friendlier you.
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 14, 2017 13:26:24 GMT -8
We'll have better talent... but now have to mesh that talent and play with some better attitudes. Too much emphasis was placed on injuries. Yep, it affected depth and talent level, but our demeanor and court presence should have been much better. I'm curious to see how key guys respond when things go south during a game, and how or if the younger guys follow or??? I see a jump cuz it can't get much worse... 8-4 (there is a learning curve and in hoops there is more disparity)... 8-10 (Pac12 is going to be tough!!)... 1-1... 17-15 gets NIT if we had a couple good Pac12 wins. You know, having a positive outlook is like working a muscle: repetition is good. If you try just a little harder, you might see a twenty win season. This will improve how you see the world in general and allow the rest of us to bask in the glow of your newer, friendlier you. An anonymous poster predicting 3 more wins would probably mean a bunch to a moronic soul with low self esteem who seems to "glow" in stalking posts with lame attempts to shame or be cute... whomever that may be!? But I assume that 99.5% of the posters here are not such lowly trolls.
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Post by jdogge on Sept 14, 2017 13:32:27 GMT -8
You know, having a positive outlook is like working a muscle: repetition is good. If you try just a little harder, you might see a twenty win season. This will improve how you see the world in general and allow the rest of us to bask in the glow of your newer, friendlier you. An anonymous poster predicting 3 more wins would probably mean a bunch to a moronic soul with low self esteem who seems to "glow" in stalking posts with lame attempts to shame or be cute... whomever that may be!? But I assume that 99.5% of the posters here are not such lowly trolls. And here I thought you were in recovery. Silly me.
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Post by rob85 on Sept 14, 2017 21:37:15 GMT -8
I don't see a game-changing talent on this team, I think that's needed to make the NCAA tourney. Had one last time Beavs were there, in GP II. I think the NIT is a reasonable expectation if Beavs stay healthy.
Going to the NIT after last year would be a significant turnaround.
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Post by ochobeavo on Sept 15, 2017 6:46:25 GMT -8
I don't see a game-changing talent on this team, I think that's needed to make the NCAA tourney. Had one last time Beavs were there, in GP II. I think the NIT is a reasonable expectation if Beavs stay healthy. Going to the NIT after last year would be a significant turnaround. I'm with you -I keep looking/wishing for a leap out of our bigs - until we really see that, I'm thinking more of NIT as our ceiling. I know we have better depth or I suppose anything is better than last year's no depth, but still not sure what to expect out of those guys on the bench... So I'll go with cautiously optimistic and happy that we are starting with a full and healthy roster.
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