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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 1, 2024 17:53:37 GMT -8
Going by average RPI of opponents at the end of last season. Here's the RPI average: 2024 schedule: 118.3 2025 schedule: 95.6 Last year's schedule, 9 opponents finished with a top 50 RPI. 30 in the top 100. Next year, 17 schools finished with a top 50 RPI and 34 in the top 100. Considering how many road games we'll be playing, this could be a really, really tough schedule. Hopefully teams like Long Beach State, CS Fullerton, Cal Poly and Gonzaga bounce back a bit. Road games count more for you when you win, and less against you, when you lose. It sucks that there will be less games at Goss, and the biggest run is in the middle of March when the weather sucks......but, playing the RPI game, I think if we take care of business, should be set up pretty well. A terrible note to end the Pac-12 on, the worst Pac-12 Conference since at least 2015. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 1, 2024 19:53:00 GMT -8
Don't really see what the big deal is. Our schedule was completely reliant on the P12 not s%#tting the bed in the past in terms of RPI. This schedule doesn't look all that much different to me as a down year for the P12. 10 Neutral Site 20 Home 26 Away The Iowa series is interesting but I don't really see it as helping RPI much minus being on the road. GCU, San Diego, LBSU, UC Irvine are all solid series most years. CSUN, CSF and Cal Poly could all be good but who knows. Virginia, Okay State, Auburn are all really nice RPI opportunities. Still have a game with UCLA, Ducks and Huskies who all have potential to be decent in RPI as the BIG 10 was seriously upgraded for baseball with the 4 additions. Don't really see it as much different myself minus we now have 3 tournaments instead of 2 which is an upgrade over playing an RPI anchor at home in the sleet. It wasn't like we were going to get a bunch of ACC and SEC series which is no different than any other year. Alright, I am counting: 16 Neutral Site 20 Home 20 Away Iowa is in Des Moines, as opposed to Iowa City. Des Moines is where the Iowa Cubs play. 2024 was: 9 Neutral Site 26 Home 20 Away The USC game was the only rainout. It wound up 9 Neutral Site, 26 Home, and 19 Away. Four of the 26 were against RPI anchor North Dakota State. Four wins on the scoreboard but four RPI losses in real life. Good riddance to the four-game body-bag series at Goss. Is anyone seriously going to miss those four games? Those four games were replaced with three games in Round Rock against Minnesota, Oklahoma, and Virginia. That is a huge win as long as Oregon State can handle their s#*t. But win or lose, it is better than playing four games against North Dakota State. Just stupid scheduling last year. One of the biggest reason why there was no trip to Omaha at season's end. No 2023 Coppin State. 2023 and 2024 was a masterclass on how to schedule yourself out of a serious run, too many cupcakes. I am glad that they have been excised. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 1, 2024 19:58:29 GMT -8
Don't really see what the big deal is. Our schedule was completely reliant on the P12 not s%#tting the bed in the past in terms of RPI. This schedule doesn't look all that much different to me as a down year for the P12. 10 Neutral Site 20 Home 26 Away The Iowa series is interesting but I don't really see it as helping RPI much minus being on the road. GCU, San Diego, LBSU, UC Irvine are all solid series most years. CSUN, CSF and Cal Poly could all be good but who knows. Virginia, Okay State, Auburn are all really nice RPI opportunities. Still have a game with UCLA, Ducks and Huskies who all have potential to be decent in RPI as the BIG 10 was seriously upgraded for baseball with the 4 additions. Don't really see it as much different myself minus we now have 3 tournaments instead of 2 which is an upgrade over playing an RPI anchor at home in the sleet. It wasn't like we were going to get a bunch of ACC and SEC series which is no different than any other year. Alright, I am counting: 16 Neutral Site 20 Home 20 Away Iowa is in Des Moines, as opposed to Iowa City. Des Moines is where the Iowa Cubs play. 2024 was: 9 Neutral Site 26 Home 20 Away The USC game was the only rainout. It wound up 9 Neutral Site, 26 Home, and 19 Away. Four of the 26 were against RPI anchor North Dakota State. Four wins on the scoreboard but four RPI losses in real life. Good riddance to the four-game body-bag series at Goss. Is anyone seriously going to miss those four games? Those four games were replaced with three games in Round Rock against Minnesota, Oklahoma, and Virginia. That is a huge win as long as Oregon State can handle their s#*t. But win or lose, it is better than playing four games against North Dakota State. Just stupid scheduling last year. One of the biggest reason why there was no trip to Omaha at season's end. No 2023 Coppin State. 2023 and 2024 was a masterclass on how to schedule yourself out of a serious run, too many cupcakes. I am glad that they have been excised. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the biggest reason we didn’t go to Omaha last year is that we lost the super regional, no? |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 1, 2024 20:04:16 GMT -8
Alright, I am counting: 16 Neutral Site 20 Home 20 Away Iowa is in Des Moines, as opposed to Iowa City. Des Moines is where the Iowa Cubs play. 2024 was: 9 Neutral Site 26 Home 20 Away The USC game was the only rainout. It wound up 9 Neutral Site, 26 Home, and 19 Away. Four of the 26 were against RPI anchor North Dakota State. Four wins on the scoreboard but four RPI losses in real life. Good riddance to the four-game body-bag series at Goss. Is anyone seriously going to miss those four games? Those four games were replaced with three games in Round Rock against Minnesota, Oklahoma, and Virginia. That is a huge win as long as Oregon State can handle their s#*t. But win or lose, it is better than playing four games against North Dakota State. Just stupid scheduling last year. One of the biggest reason why there was no trip to Omaha at season's end. No 2023 Coppin State. 2023 and 2024 was a masterclass on how to schedule yourself out of a serious run, too many cupcakes. I am glad that they have been excised. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the biggest reason we didn’t go to Omaha last year is that we lost the super regional, no? And a 2023 regional on the road to the NC! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 1, 2024 20:41:48 GMT -8
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the biggest reason we didn’t go to Omaha last year is that we lost the super regional, no? And a 2023 regional on the road to the NC! And why did Oregon State play the #1 team in the country in their Regional in 2023? And why was Oregon State not given a top 12 seed in 2024? It's like talking about how Napoleon lost Waterloo without talking about how Grouchy bungled his pursuit of the Prussians between Ligny and Wavre. Napoleon failed to defeat the British while being flanked by the Prussians. But if you do not get to the whole Grouchy fiasco, you fail to provide a complete picture as to how Napoleon could find himself in such an untenable position. Tactically, we scheduled ourselves for mediocrity and failed to overcome the hole that we placed ourselves in both 2023 and 2024. One of those, if you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck. Oregon State's tactics sucked in 2023 and 2024. |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 1, 2024 22:42:08 GMT -8
And a 2023 regional on the road to the NC! And why did Oregon State play the #1 team in the country in their Regional in 2023? And why was Oregon State not given a top 12 seed in 2024? It's like talking about how Napoleon lost Waterloo without talking about how Grouchy bungled his pursuit of the Prussians between Ligny and Wavre. Napoleon failed to defeat the British while being flanked by the Prussians. But if you do not get to the whole Grouchy fiasco, you fail to provide a complete picture as to how Napoleon could find himself in such an untenable position. Tactically, we scheduled ourselves for mediocrity and failed to overcome the hole that we placed ourselves in both 2023 and 2024. One of those, if you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck. Oregon State's tactics sucked in 2023 and 2024. Maybe it was due to losing key conference games? Win the conference... Win on the road... 2023... 12-11/7-8 2024... 9-12/6-8 2023... 5 games back, 0-2 in Pac12 tourney giving up 27 runs! 2024... 1/2 game back, 0-5 due to sweeps @ non-tourney teams SC and Cal, RPI #64, #76. NC crap can be overcome in conference play. Why not have a conference hurts this season. Missteps have no way to be made up. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 2, 2024 5:50:24 GMT -8
Don't really see what the big deal is. Our schedule was completely reliant on the P12 not s%#tting the bed in the past in terms of RPI. This schedule doesn't look all that much different to me as a down year for the P12. 10 Neutral Site 20 Home 26 Away The Iowa series is interesting but I don't really see it as helping RPI much minus being on the road. GCU, San Diego, LBSU, UC Irvine are all solid series most years. CSUN, CSF and Cal Poly could all be good but who knows. Virginia, Okay State, Auburn are all really nice RPI opportunities. Still have a game with UCLA, Ducks and Huskies who all have potential to be decent in RPI as the BIG 10 was seriously upgraded for baseball with the 4 additions. Don't really see it as much different myself minus we now have 3 tournaments instead of 2 which is an upgrade over playing an RPI anchor at home in the sleet. It wasn't like we were going to get a bunch of ACC and SEC series which is no different than any other year. Alright, I am counting: 16 Neutral Site 20 Home 20 Away Iowa is in Des Moines, as opposed to Iowa City. Des Moines is where the Iowa Cubs play. 2024 was: 9 Neutral Site 26 Home 20 Away The USC game was the only rainout. It wound up 9 Neutral Site, 26 Home, and 19 Away. Four of the 26 were against RPI anchor North Dakota State. Four wins on the scoreboard but four RPI losses in real life. Good riddance to the four-game body-bag series at Goss. Is anyone seriously going to miss those four games? Those four games were replaced with three games in Round Rock against Minnesota, Oklahoma, and Virginia. That is a huge win as long as Oregon State can handle their s#*t. But win or lose, it is better than playing four games against North Dakota State. Just stupid scheduling last year. One of the biggest reason why there was no trip to Omaha at season's end. No 2023 Coppin State. 2023 and 2024 was a masterclass on how to schedule yourself out of a serious run, too many cupcakes. I am glad that they have been excised. Agreed on the body bag. Coppin State? NDSU? Nah, be one regulars at some of the best tourneys on offer. I guess with Iowa, we're really going to have to pack them in for that to not be home field advantage! We're the other three the 2 Hillsboro and Houston in Round Rock? |
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Post by beavs6 on Oct 2, 2024 7:39:09 GMT -8
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 2, 2024 13:06:43 GMT -8
Alright, I am counting: 16 Neutral Site 20 Home 20 Away Iowa is in Des Moines, as opposed to Iowa City. Des Moines is where the Iowa Cubs play. 2024 was: 9 Neutral Site 26 Home 20 Away The USC game was the only rainout. It wound up 9 Neutral Site, 26 Home, and 19 Away. Four of the 26 were against RPI anchor North Dakota State. Four wins on the scoreboard but four RPI losses in real life. Good riddance to the four-game body-bag series at Goss. Is anyone seriously going to miss those four games? Those four games were replaced with three games in Round Rock against Minnesota, Oklahoma, and Virginia. That is a huge win as long as Oregon State can handle their s#*t. But win or lose, it is better than playing four games against North Dakota State. Just stupid scheduling last year. One of the biggest reason why there was no trip to Omaha at season's end. No 2023 Coppin State. 2023 and 2024 was a masterclass on how to schedule yourself out of a serious run, too many cupcakes. I am glad that they have been excised. Agreed on the body bag. Coppin State? NDSU? Nah, be one regulars at some of the best tourneys on offer. I guess with Iowa, we're really going to have to pack them in for that to not be home field advantage! We're the other three the 2 Hillsboro and Houston in Round Rock? 4 in Surprise 4 in Round Rock 3 in Arlington 2 in Hillsboro +3 in Des Moines16 Neutral Site |
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Post by calbeav83 on Oct 2, 2024 18:12:27 GMT -8
This is a question for RGeorge. Can you tell me what conference affiliation that was available to us that would have provided a better overall schedule? Lets agree that the first three tournaments would stay the same. Pick your preference of conference affiliation and then justify why a conference affiliation would provide a better schedule than the schedule presented.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 2, 2024 20:22:03 GMT -8
This is a question for RGeorge. Can you tell me what conference affiliation that was available to us that would have provided a better overall schedule? Lets agree that the first three tournaments would stay the same. Pick your preference of conference affiliation and then justify why a conference affiliation would provide a better schedule than the schedule presented. He thinks winning a conference, and winning a conf tourney, with auto bid, are what makes affiliation attractive. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 2, 2024 21:23:05 GMT -8
This is a question for RGeorge. Can you tell me what conference affiliation that was available to us that would have provided a better overall schedule? Lets agree that the first three tournaments would stay the same. Pick your preference of conference affiliation and then justify why a conference affiliation would provide a better schedule than the schedule presented. He thinks winning a conference, and winning a conf tourney, with auto bid, are what makes affiliation attractive. Higher floor but lower ceiling. Joining the current Mountain West like Wazzu would have made it much more difficult to host a Regional. But you would have a far easier path to making the Tournament. It is not a terrible argument, but I disagree. 2025 is a much better schedule on paper than the past two seasons even without the Pac-12. It could be much worse in my opinion, and joining a non-P5 conference in 2025 or 2026 would be something that would make things worse. You miss 100% of the shots that you do not take. Oregon State took its shot. It's not perfect by any means, but, as Voltaire said, "The perfect is the enemy of the good." It is pretty good all things considered. For the first time in three years, Oregon State has a schedule to excel. Just have to execute. |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 2, 2024 21:26:08 GMT -8
This is a question for RGeorge. Can you tell me what conference affiliation that was available to us that would have provided a better overall schedule? Lets agree that the first three tournaments would stay the same. Pick your preference of conference affiliation and then justify why a conference affiliation would provide a better schedule than the schedule presented. He thinks winning a conference, and winning a conf tourney, with auto bid, are what makes affiliation attractive. Plus meaningful, more home games. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 2, 2024 21:59:10 GMT -8
He thinks winning a conference, and winning a conf tourney, with auto bid, are what makes affiliation attractive. Plus meaningful, more home games. You would be trading out 10 of the 11 weekend series for games against Mountain West teams. Basically, the first three weekends would be the same. And then, you would slide into conference play with only nonconference series mixed in. You would probably have at least six games against Wazzu and then six games against another Mountain West team and then three-game series against the other six Mountain West teams. You likely lose the midweek game against UCLA and the two against Wazzu and have to reschedule them. 2025 and 2026 are not 15-week baseball schedules like 2021. It would arguably be more difficult to put together a schedule. As I said elsewhere, I think what you are saying makes sense, but I like what Oregon State did with the independent schedule more. Plus, I am hoping that some of these road agreements are reciprocal in 2026. Oregon State goes there in 2025. The other teams return to Goss in 2026 or shortly thereafter. |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 2, 2024 22:38:32 GMT -8
Plus meaningful, more home games. You would be trading out 10 of the 11 weekend series for games against Mountain West teams. Basically, the first three weekends would be the same. And then, you would slide into conference play with only nonconference series mixed in. You would probably have at least six games against Wazzu and then six games against another Mountain West team and then three-game series against the other six Mountain West teams. You likely lose the midweek game against UCLA and the two against Wazzu and have to reschedule them. 2025 and 2026 are not 15-week baseball schedules like 2021. It would arguably be more difficult to put together a schedule. As I said elsewhere, I think what you are saying makes sense, but I like what Oregon State did with the independent schedule more. Plus, I am hoping that some of these road agreements are reciprocal in 2026. Oregon State goes there in 2025. The other teams return to Goss in 2026 or shortly thereafter. My issue is it isn't a high quality schedule. As many stated here it would be very difficult for that to happen. Yet the powers that be kept saying it was... just wait until contracts are signed. Ok schedule for an indy. And, that's only because of the preseason invites. But, piss poor home schedule was the trade off. Shows just how little cache/leverage an indy OSU had to try to fit into conference schedules. Time will tell if trading off a conference title (I'm assuming OSU would win any of the possible west conferences), extra conference tourney games, auto bid (depending on conference policy) vs depending on a committee's view on this schedule with no conference affiliation. FWIW... regional play begins 5/30/25. OSU's last game 5/17/25. That's a long layoff while other teams are winning, impressing, upsetting. |
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