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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 30, 2024 12:53:24 GMT -8
How does the beavers ticket office play this. On one hand they have a waiting list for season tickets, not really much incentive to adjust prices to reflect an almost 30% decrease in home games. Looking at it the other way, most season ticket holders have been loyal fans for many years and some acknowledge on the reality of the situation seems appropriate. I have friends who are not going to renew unless an adjustment is made. I kind of see their point, not just the quality of opponent, but having almost half the home games during the worst weather month of the baseball season Might be a good time for folks on the waiting list to move up.....I'm sure there will be a decent number of spoiled Beavs baseball fans who will not want to pay more, for less This is the time to support the program, not bail because we don't like the schedule. The baseball program has been put in a bad position.....I'm all in to help bridge the gap, and hopefully keep the baseball program strong. |
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Post by beaver94 on Sept 30, 2024 13:42:28 GMT -8
How does the beavers ticket office play this. On one hand they have a waiting list for season tickets, not really much incentive to adjust prices to reflect an almost 30% decrease in home games. Looking at it the other way, most season ticket holders have been loyal fans for many years and some acknowledge on the reality of the situation seems appropriate. I have friends who are not going to renew unless an adjustment is made. I kind of see their point, not just the quality of opponent, but having almost half the home games during the worst weather month of the baseball season Might be a good time for folks on the waiting list to move up.....I'm sure there will be a decent number of spoiled Beavs baseball fans who will not want to pay more, for less This is the time to support the program, not bail because we don't like the schedule. The baseball program has been put in a bad position.....I'm all in to help bridge the gap, and hopefully keep the baseball program strong. Maybe even a chance to get new fans in the seats owned by fans that only show up when the weather is good or the team is to their liking. |
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Post by beavaristotle on Sept 30, 2024 14:20:39 GMT -8
How does the beavers ticket office play this. On one hand they have a waiting list for season tickets, not really much incentive to adjust prices to reflect an almost 30% decrease in home games. Looking at it the other way, most season ticket holders have been loyal fans for many years and some acknowledge on the reality of the situation seems appropriate. I have friends who are not going to renew unless an adjustment is made. I kind of see their point, not just the quality of opponent, but having almost half the home games during the worst weather month of the baseball season Might be a good time for folks on the waiting list to move up.....I'm sure there will be a decent number of spoiled Beavs baseball fans who will not want to pay more, for less This is the time to support the program, not bail because we don't like the schedule. The baseball program has been put in a bad position.....I'm all in to help bridge the gap, and hopefully keep the baseball program strong. concern about fewer games against lesser opponents in worse weather doesn’t make anyone a spoiled beaver baseball fan considering it’s one of the most expensive season ticket in college baseball. I don’t think the athletic department should go with “nothing to see here “ is the best way. Acknowledge the situation, rally the fans and paint a brighter picture of the future. I think beaver fans will respond if they are not treated like an ATM machine |
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Post by irimi on Sept 30, 2024 14:40:42 GMT -8
I want the Hawaii games in February or March, not May. Hawaii on Monday Corvallis on Wednesday Iowa on Friday Seems.. not good. The guys are essentially pros. They can focus. They can handle it....for the money they make. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 30, 2024 14:47:02 GMT -8
Might be a good time for folks on the waiting list to move up.....I'm sure there will be a decent number of spoiled Beavs baseball fans who will not want to pay more, for less This is the time to support the program, not bail because we don't like the schedule. The baseball program has been put in a bad position.....I'm all in to help bridge the gap, and hopefully keep the baseball program strong. concern about fewer games against lesser opponents in worse weather doesn’t make anyone a spoiled beaver baseball fan considering it’s one of the most expensive season ticket in college baseball. I don’t think the athletic department should go with “nothing to see here “ is the best way. Acknowledge the situation, rally the fans and paint a brighter picture of the future. I think beaver fans will respond if they are not treated like an ATM machine I get it. It's not ideal. None of this has been ideal. This is our reality right now. I'm more concerned with the program long term, then the immediate. I'm betting Mitch has something planned. He understands what's at stake......I take some comfort in the fact he's leading this program. I think he can lead us thru the fire. |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 16:47:00 GMT -8
OSU also has many of the middle and worst of said conferences that get (1) berth. And, a bunch of bad to mediocre teams from that powerful baseball conference, the B10. Add, that travel is more... an average of (8-9) more trips than normal (most of our travel was always West Coast)... far less home gate and concessions.
WCC: San Diego, Portland, St. Mary's, Gonzaga. That's the 1 through 4 finishers in the WCC. We play the top two plus Gonzaga, who had a down year. And sure, I guess that means Gonzaga was in the 'middle' as there are 9 teams in the conference.
We play the #2, 3, 4 and 6 teams in the Big West, plus two historically good teams who had down years, but who are in SoCal. A SoCal road trip isn't going to be bad for recruiting. And with that last weekend, we didn't have any options but LBSU, they're the only school who were willing to come up to play. I mean, you can't force teams to make a road trip just before the conference tourney.
Bad to mediocre teams in the Big 10? We play the two best, Nebraska and Oregon, plus a game each against UW and UCLA. Iowa finished 4th in the Big 10, not that bad. Just outside the top 100 in RPI. And like it or not, Oregon, UCLA, UW and USC will boost the Big 10 RPI this year, at least a little bit.
I get it, it's not ideal, not enough home games, would have been nice if USCB would have worked out, maybe an Arizona school that . But it's a good schedule, considering it was done on very short notice with relatively few options for certain weekends.
But hey, you're not going to be convinced. That's fine.
Lol... are most of those you mention from mediocre to bad (1) bid conferences? And, you seem to be very selective in the teams you mention. Bet there's a reason! I don't have to be convinced. The attempts are trying to sugar coat a terrible overall schedule. One that is far from what was mentioned/promised. As far as a bad situation. It's one the Admin/program chose. A temp conference affiliation gives OSU a much better schedule and a conference to win, plus an auto berth. This is not a schedule that will readily lead to a top 16 seed unless they win... I'd call it 45+. Even then, no conference tourney, no extra games, no conference SOS to bolster the committee's view. Will OSU be in the post season? Sure... but not due to the schedule. |
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Post by richard44 on Sept 30, 2024 16:47:07 GMT -8
I could be wrong, but I think the schedule is not as bad as some are making it out to be, at least for the players and coaches. If I’m a player I’m actually pretty excited for this next season. They get to play a really good array of teams from multiple conferences. They get some fun tourny’s in the beginning of the season.
The loss of home games sucks, especially for the fans, I won’t debate that, but home field advantage has way less impact in baseball than it does in football and basketball traditionally. Our team is legit this year, once again. I’m confident we will likely be top 15-20 to start the year, and be an Omaha contender once again.
As far as a mass exodus after this next year? I call BS on that happening. As long as we continue to move forward, keep our coaching staff together, and continue to produce playoff teams year in and year out, our culture will keep the program intact. There is a reason our baseball program was the only program not to see a mass exodus last year, and I don’t see that changing after this season either. Our 2025 and 2026 classes are both ranked top 25, until that changes, we will remain a top program.
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Post by richard44 on Sept 30, 2024 16:58:55 GMT -8
One thing that won’t kill a program is the schedule. One thing that will kill a program is a significant hit to recruiting.
If we would have joined the WAC or WCC, we would have had the schedule. But do we also eliminate our recruiting prestige by doing that? Can’t have your cake and eat it too in this situation.
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Post by cake on Sept 30, 2024 17:02:31 GMT -8
Rgeorge. Who are you talking about? Grand Canyon? What?
As I've outlined, this is a good schedule. Oh no, I didn't mention Rutgers, Ohio State and Minnesota? (all of whom have been top 100 in RPI recently)
Is that it?
Maybe the issue is, you don't pay any attention to college baseball, so you don't think this is a good schedule?
Or, more likely, your snap judgement was pessimistic and, like many people, you don't want to hear evidence that you're wrong.
So, who on this schedule are you complaining about?
I've made my case, you make yours.
Anyway, have a good one man, I'll be enjoying the season.
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Post by cake on Sept 30, 2024 17:06:02 GMT -8
I could be wrong, but I think the schedule is not as bad as some are making it out to be, at least for the players and coaches. If I’m a player I’m actually pretty excited for this next season. They get to play a really good array of teams from multiple conferences. They get some fun tourny’s in the beginning of the season. The loss of home games sucks, especially for the fans, I won’t debate that, but home field advantage has way less impact in baseball than it does in football and basketball traditionally. Our team is legit this year, once again. I’m confident we will likely be top 15-20 to start the year, and be an Omaha contender once again. As far as a mass exodus after this next year? I call BS on that happening. As long as we continue to move forward, keep our coaching staff together, and continue to produce playoff teams year in and year out, our culture will keep the program intact. There is a reason our baseball program was the only program not to see a mass exodus last year, and I don’t see that changing after this season either. Our 2025 and 2026 classes are both ranked top 25, until that changes, we will remain a top program. You're not wrong. It's a very good schedule. And I guarantee the players know how solid this schedule is, because they actually pay attention to who is good. I'd like to think none of our fans are delusional enough to think we'd get 4 SEC series? |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 17:16:34 GMT -8
Rgeorge. Who are you talking about? Grand Canyon? What? As I've outlined, this is a good schedule. Oh no, I didn't mention Rutgers, Ohio State and Minnesota? (all of whom have been top 100 in RPI recently) Is that it? Maybe the issue is, you don't pay any attention to college baseball, so you don't think this is a good schedule? Or, more likely, your snap judgement was pessimistic and, like many people, you don't want to hear evidence that you're wrong. So, who on this schedule are you complaining about? I've made my case, you make yours. Anyway, have a good one man, I'll be enjoying the season. 🤣🤣 |
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Post by cake on Sept 30, 2024 17:22:19 GMT -8
Rgeorge. Who are you talking about? Grand Canyon? What? As I've outlined, this is a good schedule. Oh no, I didn't mention Rutgers, Ohio State and Minnesota? (all of whom have been top 100 in RPI recently) Is that it? Maybe the issue is, you don't pay any attention to college baseball, so you don't think this is a good schedule? Or, more likely, your snap judgement was pessimistic and, like many people, you don't want to hear evidence that you're wrong. So, who on this schedule are you complaining about? I've made my case, you make yours. Anyway, have a good one man, I'll be enjoying the season. 🤣🤣 Not gonna lie, that's exactly response I expected. 🤣🤣 |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 19:04:56 GMT -8
Not gonna lie, that's exactly response I expected. 🤣🤣 Cuz it's the response your posts deserve. No wonder you expected it. Habit. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 30, 2024 19:29:46 GMT -8
WCC: San Diego, Portland, St. Mary's, Gonzaga. That's the 1 through 4 finishers in the WCC. We play the top two plus Gonzaga, who had a down year. And sure, I guess that means Gonzaga was in the 'middle' as there are 9 teams in the conference.
We play the #2, 3, 4 and 6 teams in the Big West, plus two historically good teams who had down years, but who are in SoCal. A SoCal road trip isn't going to be bad for recruiting. And with that last weekend, we didn't have any options but LBSU, they're the only school who were willing to come up to play. I mean, you can't force teams to make a road trip just before the conference tourney.
Bad to mediocre teams in the Big 10? We play the two best, Nebraska and Oregon, plus a game each against UW and UCLA. Iowa finished 4th in the Big 10, not that bad. Just outside the top 100 in RPI. And like it or not, Oregon, UCLA, UW and USC will boost the Big 10 RPI this year, at least a little bit.
I get it, it's not ideal, not enough home games, would have been nice if USCB would have worked out, maybe an Arizona school that . But it's a good schedule, considering it was done on very short notice with relatively few options for certain weekends.
But hey, you're not going to be convinced. That's fine.
Lol... are most of those you mention from mediocre to bad (1) bid conferences? And, you seem to be very selective in the teams you mention. Bet there's a reason! I don't have to be convinced. The attempts are trying to sugar coat a terrible overall schedule. One that is far from what was mentioned/promised. As far as a bad situation. It's one the Admin/program chose. A temp conference affiliation gives OSU a much better schedule and a conference to win, plus an auto berth. This is not a schedule that will readily lead to a top 16 seed unless they win... I'd call it 45+. Even then, no conference tourney, no extra games, no conference SOS to bolster the committee's view. Will OSU be in the post season? Sure... but not due to the schedule. So what conference affiliation was going to give us a "much better schedule??" iirc, the Big 12 didn't want us as an affiliate (RPI 3). Neither did the big west (RPI 13). The two options were WCC (RPI 16), and MW (RPI 18) I'm pretty sure once the Big 12 wasn't an option, it was cobble together an indi schedule. |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 19:41:12 GMT -8
Lol... are most of those you mention from mediocre to bad (1) bid conferences? And, you seem to be very selective in the teams you mention. Bet there's a reason! I don't have to be convinced. The attempts are trying to sugar coat a terrible overall schedule. One that is far from what was mentioned/promised. As far as a bad situation. It's one the Admin/program chose. A temp conference affiliation gives OSU a much better schedule and a conference to win, plus an auto berth. This is not a schedule that will readily lead to a top 16 seed unless they win... I'd call it 45+. Even then, no conference tourney, no extra games, no conference SOS to bolster the committee's view. Will OSU be in the post season? Sure... but not due to the schedule. So what conference affiliation was going to give us a "much better schedule??" iirc, the Big 12 didn't want us as an affiliate (RPI 3). Neither did the big west (RPI 13). The two options were WCC (RPI 16), and MW (RPI 18) I'm pretty sure once the Big 12 wasn't an option, it was cobble together an indi schedule. As mentioned by me and others... Conference... you pick the weak west coast conference of choice... since we're playing a lot of each... gives you: - guaranteed conference home schedule. No worse than current, but with NC more games in Goss all season; - guaranteed auto berth by winning your perceived weak conference; - winning a conference means something vs random NC games. Think... committee sees OSU as nothing but facing prominently NC pitching staffs. - extra games in conference tourney vs sitting idle; - same pre-season invites and similar NC games. So pick the conference of your choice with the best top tier. OSU's schedule becomes better just by what it allows. |
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