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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 30, 2024 6:18:46 GMT -8
Going by average RPI of opponents at the end of last season. Here's the RPI average: 2024 schedule: 118.3 2025 schedule: 95.6 Last year's schedule, 9 opponents finished with a top 50 RPI. 30 in the top 100. Next year, 17 schools finished with a top 50 RPI and 34 in the top 100. Considering how many road games we'll be playing, this could be a really, really tough schedule. Hopefully teams like Long Beach State, CS Fullerton, Cal Poly and Gonzaga bounce back a bit. Pac 12 was garbage last season. Road games count more for you when you win, and less against you, when you lose. It sucks that there will be less games at Goss, and the biggest run is in the middle of March when the weather sucks......but, playing the RPI game, I think if we take care of business, should be set up pretty well.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Sept 30, 2024 7:12:31 GMT -8
From a fan perspective and being able to attend games, it's brutal - but as far as getting us in a position to host postseason games, looks just fine. That's the best we could've hoped for particularly in the first year of this situation.
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Post by messi on Sept 30, 2024 7:16:18 GMT -8
One item not mentioned, the Beavs face half of the Big West. Gonna need that conference to have a strong season.
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 8:56:53 GMT -8
From a fan perspective and being able to attend games, it's brutal - but as far as getting us in a position to host postseason games, looks just fine. That's the best we could've hoped for particularly in the first year of this situation. Absolutely NOT what was stated by the AD and MC. In fact, not what was stated by many on this board... OSU will have no problem getting quality opponents... our program provides leverage.... good team will want to play us... etc. Secondly, the best teams on the schedule are not game OSU "scheduled" but (as stated early on) are due to invites to pre-season events. Take those away and the schedule gets even worse. One can gaslight all they want... it is a bad schedule... terrible home schedule. Although nothing was "promised" in terms of exact opponents a top-notch high quality schedule was mentioned over and over. This is no where close to that. And, season tickets holders will make it known. If you think Goss has been empty on early season NC games before... 12 of the 20 in March, the rest as midweek singles... wait you'll be able to buy some cheap secondary tickets.
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Post by beavaristotle on Sept 30, 2024 9:17:20 GMT -8
From a fan perspective and being able to attend games, it's brutal - but as far as getting us in a position to host postseason games, looks just fine. That's the best we could've hoped for particularly in the first year of this situation. Absolutely NOT what was stated by the AD and MC. In fact, not what was stated by many on this board... OSU will have no problem getting quality opponents... our program provides leverage.... good team will want to play us... etc. Secondly, the best teams on the schedule are not game OSU "scheduled" but (as stated early on) are due to invites to pre-season events. Take those away and the schedule gets even worse. One can gaslight all they want... it is a bad schedule... terrible home schedule. Although nothing was "promised" in terms of exact opponents a top-notch high quality schedule was mentioned over and over. This is no where close to that. And, season tickets holders will make it known. If you think Goss has been empty on early season NC games before... 12 of the 20 in March, the rest as midweek singles... wait you'll be able to buy some cheap secondary tickets. at times there was talk of an affiliation agreement with the WCC as a building block for a strong schedule. It would have guaranteed better home games spread through out the season. The WCC looks like the National League East compared to our 2025 schedule
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 30, 2024 9:24:23 GMT -8
From a fan perspective and being able to attend games, it's brutal - but as far as getting us in a position to host postseason games, looks just fine. That's the best we could've hoped for particularly in the first year of this situation. Absolutely NOT what was stated by the AD and MC. In fact, not what was stated by many on this board... OSU will have no problem getting quality opponents... our program provides leverage.... good team will want to play us... etc. Secondly, the best teams on the schedule are not game OSU "scheduled" but (as stated early on) are due to invites to pre-season events. Take those away and the schedule gets even worse. One can gaslight all they want... it is a bad schedule... terrible home schedule. Although nothing was "promised" in terms of exact opponents a top-notch high quality schedule was mentioned over and over. This is no where close to that. And, season tickets holders will make it known. If you think Goss has been empty on early season NC games before... 12 of the 20 in March, the rest as midweek singles... wait you'll be able to buy some cheap secondary tickets. We have the best of the WCC/Big West, the round rock classic, and several mid weeks vs prev Pac 12 schools. Series at hole. GCU Woulda been nice to have more series at Goss, but I think it's better than going full MW.....You never go full MW. Better than any conf affiliation we might have had as an option The travel is decent.... Mostly staying west coast. I'm actually in the process of planning my trip to the Round Rock classic. Should be a fun trip
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 9:32:22 GMT -8
Absolutely NOT what was stated by the AD and MC. In fact, not what was stated by many on this board... OSU will have no problem getting quality opponents... our program provides leverage.... good team will want to play us... etc. Secondly, the best teams on the schedule are not game OSU "scheduled" but (as stated early on) are due to invites to pre-season events. Take those away and the schedule gets even worse. One can gaslight all they want... it is a bad schedule... terrible home schedule. Although nothing was "promised" in terms of exact opponents a top-notch high quality schedule was mentioned over and over. This is no where close to that. And, season tickets holders will make it known. If you think Goss has been empty on early season NC games before... 12 of the 20 in March, the rest as midweek singles... wait you'll be able to buy some cheap secondary tickets. We have the best of the WCC/Big West, the round rock classic, and several mid weeks vs prev Pac 12 schools. Series at hole. GCU Woulda been nice to have more series at Goss, but I think it's better than going full MW.....You never go full MW. Better talhan and conf affiliation we might have had as an option The travel is decent.... Mostly staying west coast. I'm actually in the process of planning my trip to the Round Rock classic. Should be a fun trip OSU also has many of the middle and worst of said conferences that get (1) berth. And, a bunch of bad to mediocre teams from that powerful baseball conference, the B10. Add, that travel is more... an average of (8-9) more trips than normal (most of our travel was always West Coast)... far less home gate and concessions.
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Post by beavaristotle on Sept 30, 2024 10:01:49 GMT -8
How does the beavers ticket office play this. On one hand they have a waiting list for season tickets, not really much incentive to adjust prices to reflect an almost 30% decrease in home games. Looking at it the other way, most season ticket holders have been loyal fans for many years and some acknowledge on the reality of the situation seems appropriate. I have friends who are not going to renew unless an adjustment is made. I kind of see their point, not just the quality of opponent, but having almost half the home games during the worst weather month of the baseball season
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 10:14:51 GMT -8
How does the beavers ticket office play this. On one hand they have a waiting list for season tickets, not really much incentive to adjust prices to reflect an almost 30% decrease in home games. Looking at it the other way, most season ticket holders have been loyal fans for many years and some acknowledge on the reality of the situation seems appropriate. I have friends who are not going to renew unless an adjustment is made. I kind of see their point, not just the quality of opponent, but having almost half the home games during the worst weather month of the baseball season It'll be interesting as many of our season ticket holder friends were told that the schedule would be as strong as normal, home and away. No one in their right mind should have believed that in just the way conference schedules work and the difference in scheduling twice as many games. But, many also do attend many NC games... midweek and Fridays, very bad weather... opting to sell or give away tickets. For those that attend those you can tell many seats are never used. Some are not renewing at all figuring they can buy for the game(s) they want. Some are not renewing all, but part. Some are "borrowing worry/anger" waiting to see if season tix do become available if they are offered for less than they pay. Or, if partial season tix packages will be offered?? Ticket office folks say nothing has been discussed with them as of now, but field calls daily. Probably more now that the schedule is out. I know in football those that forked out $$ for season tix and now have folks sitting around them that paid a fraction have/are dropping football tix. I imagine the same will happen in baseball on a smaller scale. The AD is in a pickle as this schedule will drop baseball deeper into the red no matter what happens. Depending on the TV games, Goss could be at 1500 or less for questionable weather games. Nothing effects the outside perception of a program more than lack of fans in the seats, especially how vocal Goss can be. It was my "uneducated" opinion early on that not doing a temp conference alignment was very very short sighted... in many ways! But I've not run or tried to schedule college ball games.
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Post by messi on Sept 30, 2024 11:10:55 GMT -8
From a fan perspective and being able to attend games, it's brutal - but as far as getting us in a position to host postseason games, looks just fine. That's the best we could've hoped for particularly in the first year of this situation. Absolutely NOT what was stated by the AD and MC. In fact, not what was stated by many on this board... OSU will have no problem getting quality opponents... our program provides leverage.... good team will want to play us... etc. Secondly, the best teams on the schedule are not game OSU "scheduled" but (as stated early on) are due to invites to pre-season events. Take those away and the schedule gets even worse. One can gaslight all they want... it is a bad schedule... terrible home schedule. Although nothing was "promised" in terms of exact opponents a top-notch high quality schedule was mentioned over and over. This is no where close to that. And, season tickets holders will make it known. If you think Goss has been empty on early season NC games before... 12 of the 20 in March, the rest as midweek singles... wait you'll be able to buy some cheap secondary tickets. I'm more worried about the current players. Was this schedule what they were expecting when did decided to stay? June 2025 may be ugly, regardless of post-season outcome.
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Post by cake on Sept 30, 2024 11:55:19 GMT -8
We have the best of the WCC/Big West, the round rock classic, and several mid weeks vs prev Pac 12 schools. Series at hole. GCU Woulda been nice to have more series at Goss, but I think it's better than going full MW.....You never go full MW. Better talhan and conf affiliation we might have had as an option The travel is decent.... Mostly staying west coast. I'm actually in the process of planning my trip to the Round Rock classic. Should be a fun trip OSU also has many of the middle and worst of said conferences that get (1) berth. And, a bunch of bad to mediocre teams from that powerful baseball conference, the B10. Add, that travel is more... an average of (8-9) more trips than normal (most of our travel was always West Coast)... far less home gate and concessions.
WCC: San Diego, Portland, St. Mary's, Gonzaga. That's the 1 through 4 finishers in the WCC. We play the top two plus Gonzaga, who had a down year. And sure, I guess that means Gonzaga was in the 'middle' as there are 9 teams in the conference.
We play the #2, 3, 4 and 6 teams in the Big West, plus two historically good teams who had down years, but who are in SoCal. A SoCal road trip isn't going to be bad for recruiting. And with that last weekend, we didn't have any options but LBSU, they're the only school who were willing to come up to play. I mean, you can't force teams to make a road trip just before the conference tourney.
Bad to mediocre teams in the Big 10? We play the two best, Nebraska and Oregon, plus a game each against UW and UCLA. Iowa finished 4th in the Big 10, not that bad. Just outside the top 100 in RPI. And like it or not, Oregon, UCLA, UW and USC will boost the Big 10 RPI this year, at least a little bit.
I get it, it's not ideal, not enough home games, would have been nice if USCB would have worked out, maybe an Arizona school that . But it's a good schedule, considering it was done on very short notice with relatively few options for certain weekends.
But hey, you're not going to be convinced. That's fine.
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Post by ochobeavo on Sept 30, 2024 12:06:58 GMT -8
I want the Hawaii games in February or March, not May. Hawaii on Monday Corvallis on Wednesday Iowa on Friday Seems.. not good.
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Post by cake on Sept 30, 2024 12:10:51 GMT -8
Going by average RPI of opponents at the end of last season. Here's the RPI average: 2024 schedule: 118.3 2025 schedule: 95.6 Last year's schedule, 9 opponents finished with a top 50 RPI. 30 in the top 100. Next year, 17 schools finished with a top 50 RPI and 34 in the top 100. Considering how many road games we'll be playing, this could be a really, really tough schedule. Hopefully teams like Long Beach State, CS Fullerton, Cal Poly and Gonzaga bounce back a bit. Pac 12 was garbage last season. Fair enough. Let's take a look at how this schedule performed against the 2023 schedule in average RPI.
2025: 83.6 average RPI, 17 top 50 games, 42 top 100 games, 8 sub-150 games.
2023: 114.5 average RPI, 10 top 50 games, 30 top 100 games, 18 sub-150 games.
The home game stuff sucks, I get that complaint. This is a schedule that can get us a national seed and keep us heading in the right direction.
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Post by beavaristotle on Sept 30, 2024 12:31:50 GMT -8
I want the Hawaii games in February or March, not May. Hawaii on Monday Corvallis on Wednesday Iowa on Friday Seems.. not good. after spending the weekend in Hawaii I don’t think anyone is going to ask “is this heaven “ when they get off the plane in Iowa City
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Post by orangeblack on Sept 30, 2024 12:50:18 GMT -8
2 Hillsboro games is exciting for Portland based fans. Especially the Dawgs coming to town. Hopefully the Beavers get some money from those gates.
What is up with U of P games being listed for 2 days? both April 7th and 8th. Is that to be flexible for weather or travel?
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