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Post by grayman on Sept 25, 2024 21:15:44 GMT -8
In 2023, Tulane had 480,000 in TV numbers. Utah State had 54,700.
In 2022, Tulane had 354,000 and USU had 324,000.
In 2021, Tulane had 356,000 and USU had 91,000.
Tulane won a New Year's Six bowl in 2022 and finished ranked ninth in the country.
Football fans around the country know about Tulane.
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Post by seastape on Sept 25, 2024 21:16:42 GMT -8
When this is all done whoever did the negotiating on our behalf should be canned. You mean the people who closed on the top 5 teams in our main competition's conference, but not the 6th? Makes sense to me. No, the people who are blowing through Pac 12 assets and leaving us one school shy of a conference. Hope that 8th is coming soon, cause it's not looking good right now. |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 25, 2024 21:22:20 GMT -8
We haven't paid them a dime. And there is no way we will ever pay them anywhere close to $67 million. Nowhere even remotely close. What we know right now is that a contract was signed, and that is the exact value of the invoice. You're exercizing wishful thinking and nothing more at this point. It's $55,000,000 for the 5. $67,500,000 would be for 6. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Sept 25, 2024 21:29:37 GMT -8
Damn it's hard to be a beaver fan. Why can't it be easy?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 25, 2024 21:37:24 GMT -8
They are both in the Mwc aren't they? For 12 years. They apparently have spent most of their sports lives in different conferences. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Sept 25, 2024 21:59:05 GMT -8
I think the approach taken was built around the theory that creating the beginnings of an attractive, powerful conference with the "Top 4" of MWC would entice some AAC members (or others) to throw in, media agreement and other uncertainties notwithstanding.
Another hypothesis seems to have been that the MWC would not fight back the way they have using the war chest that they contractually secured from the Pac-12. Whether the notion of attempting to claw back the war chest legally was always part of the plan is unknown.
In retrospect, securing 6 commitments before "going public" would have likely been better - we could be negotiating/discussing media agreements right now, the conference being back in NCAA/CFP good graces would be a non-issue, invites to schools beyond the Pac-8 would be more attractive and less doubt-ridden, etc.
I don't doubt we will land a 6th football member from all of the alternatives (though the potential member might hold out for more incentives), but it feels like our strategy didn't anticipate the fight in the MWC and the fence sitting from the AAC, or maybe this is all going to plan.
I admire the moxie and leadership being shown by the MWC commish, and the Pac-12 beginnings are starting to feel a little less auspicious by the day.
But as noted, being a Beaver fan can on occasion be challenging (but it still beats the alternatives!)
Go Beavers!
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Post by 93beav on Sept 26, 2024 0:36:10 GMT -8
If I'm not unlv or afa, I'd be pissed right now. They're getting $30 million and your next TV deal is going to land you probably $2-$3 million a school, so a big drop.
Unlv and AFA basically threw in the towel and said they'll ride it out the next five years on a pile of cash and forget about any national aspirations. But when they hit that fifth year, the pain will start.
If the departing schools have any power left, they should just veto any expansion until there is no need for exit fees.
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Post by speakthetruth on Sept 26, 2024 5:05:42 GMT -8
A question for someone out there. How long til the poaching fee lawsuit is resolved? Not sure where the MWC is getting 30 mil to pay unlv but if it is in whole or in part from the poaching fees and mwc loses the lawsuit then what?
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Post by beaver94 on Sept 26, 2024 5:58:09 GMT -8
A question for someone out there. How long til the poaching fee lawsuit is resolved? Not sure where the MWC is getting 30 mil to pay unlv but if it is in whole or in part from the poaching fees and mwc loses the lawsuit then what? I was wondering that too. Kind of sounds like UNLV may be getting the same financial promise that they’ve been giving to their football players. |
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Post by sparty on Sept 26, 2024 5:59:09 GMT -8
Damn it's hard to be a beaver fan. Why can't it be easy? Yeah, What looked promising earlier this week now looks a lot worse. Could end up a real disaster in the long run and seems to be not going as planned. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Sept 26, 2024 6:08:20 GMT -8
The likelihood of Sacramento State building both a new basketball arena and new football stadium is exactly, precisely - 0. Not zero, the movement is already underway and Sac State raised student fees for newfacilities. If they can get the football stadium built first that's a good start. There us also very little opposition to it. The City wants it too. But agree the odds are low both get built. They could potentially use the NBA arena downtown in the interim. sactownsports.com/ncaa-sacramento-state-football-sac-12-plans-new-stadium/ |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Sept 26, 2024 6:15:14 GMT -8
You mean the people who closed on the top 5 teams in our main competition's conference, but not the 6th? Makes sense to me. No, the people who are blowing through Pac 12 assets and leaving us one school shy of a conference. Hope that 8th is coming soon, cause it's not looking good right now. The Pac 12 didn't come this far to fall one school short. Although the options seem limited, there is still UConn, a variety of SunBelt teams, or even poaching one AAC team and helping it with exit fees. Even taking NDSU and SDSU is an option |
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Post by seastape on Sept 26, 2024 6:18:10 GMT -8
A question for someone out there. How long til the poaching fee lawsuit is resolved? Not sure where the MWC is getting 30 mil to pay unlv but if it is in whole or in part from the poaching fees and mwc loses the lawsuit then what? We have no idea. Frankly, the MWC is in a stronger position than the Pac. They have a conference and a media deal. If I was the MWC commissioner, I might take on the strategy of letting the suit stretch out. The Pac 2 can't do much about it. |
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Post by seastape on Sept 26, 2024 6:22:00 GMT -8
No, the people who are blowing through Pac 12 assets and leaving us one school shy of a conference. Hope that 8th is coming soon, cause it's not looking good right now. The Pac 12 didn't come this far to fall one school short. Although the options seem limited, there is still UConn, a variety of SunBelt teams, or even poaching one AAC team and helping it with exit fees. Even taking NDSU and SDSU is an option Agreed. I actually think it likely that the Pac has options, but on the surface right now the Pac looks to be in a bad spot. If it's as bad as it appears, I would go after NMSU to ensure we have a league and try and get Gonzaga in the fold as well. |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 26, 2024 6:29:11 GMT -8
A question for someone out there. How long til the poaching fee lawsuit is resolved? Not sure where the MWC is getting 30 mil to pay unlv but if it is in whole or in part from the poaching fees and mwc loses the lawsuit then what? We have no idea. Frankly, the MWC is in a stronger position than the Pac. They have a conference and a media deal. If I was the MWC commissioner, I might take on the strategy of letting the suit stretch out. The Pac 2 can't do much about it. Actually, they don't have a media deal. Theirs expires after 2025. And then they will have to go back to negotiate. UNLV/AFA notwithstanding, I don't think a bunch of media providers are going to jump all over what's left of the MWC. They're getting the $30 mil from the exit fees of the 6 departed schools. |
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