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Post by grayman on Sept 25, 2024 20:45:00 GMT -8
If the Pac-12 doesn't land Gonzaga, then I think the Pac-12 will have wasted a ton of money (unless it wins the suit and is also not helping with the exit fees) to create a conference that will be marginally better than the other G6 conferences. The Pac-12 needs Gonzaga. The Pac-12 needs Memphis and Tulane and should make another run at them if at all possible. If they can't add the programs that actually push the needle nationally -- not the Utah States of the world -- then this whole thing was kind of just a big fake out.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 25, 2024 20:47:03 GMT -8
You mean the people who closed on the top 5 teams in our main competition's conference, but not the 6th? Makes sense to me. Top 5? I mean, USU has a good bball program right now but that could change at the drop of a hat. CSU and USU are historically, comma, bad football programs. Utah State has played in 11 bowl games in the past 13 seasons. I'd have loved to be that "historically bad" over a similar stretch. I truly wish someone could explain the fascination of some with Tulane, a program that has played in a total of nine bowl games since 1981 (44 seasons), and has played a grand total of six NCAA tournament games since the program was founded in 1905. Tulane doesn't "push the needle" anywhere, not even in its home city.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Sept 25, 2024 20:49:32 GMT -8
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 25, 2024 20:52:39 GMT -8
If unlv got 30 mil to stay couldn't we bleed the mwc dry by keep asking teams to join us? What? They got 30 mil because we're giving them money. The poaching fees are now $67,500,000 and the MWC is withholding ~$5,000,000/year for the next two years in media rights distributions, as they did when Utah/BYU left, from the departing members.
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 25, 2024 20:53:37 GMT -8
Top 5? I mean, USU has a good bball program right now but that could change at the drop of a hat. CSU and USU are historically, comma, bad football programs. Utah State has played in 11 bowl games in the past 13 seasons. I'd have loved to be that "historically bad" over a similar stretch. That's why I put the comma. They are historically, bad, is different from they are historically bad.
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Post by speakthetruth on Sept 25, 2024 20:54:00 GMT -8
Top 5? I mean, USU has a good bball program right now but that could change at the drop of a hat. CSU and USU are historically, comma, bad football programs. Utah State has played in 11 bowl games in the past 13 seasons. I'd have loved to be that "historically bad" over a similar stretch. I truly wish someone could explain the fascination of some with Tulane, a program that has played in a total of nine bowl games since 1981 (44 seasons), and has played a grand total of six NCAA tournament games since the program was founded in 1905. Tulane doesn't "push the needle" anywhere, not even in its home city. They have a decent base ball program, I think.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 25, 2024 20:54:12 GMT -8
If unlv got 30 mil to stay couldn't we bleed the mwc dry by keep asking teams to join us? What? They got 30 mil because we're giving them money. The poaching fees are now $67,500,000 and the MWC is withholding ~$5,000,000/year for the next two years in media rights distributions, as they did when Utah/BYU left, from the departing members. We haven't paid them a dime. And there is no way we will ever pay them anywhere close to $67 million. Nowhere even remotely close.
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 25, 2024 20:54:33 GMT -8
Market is the only reason we took CSU.
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 25, 2024 20:55:53 GMT -8
What? They got 30 mil because we're giving them money. The poaching fees are now $67,500,000 and the MWC is withholding ~$5,000,000/year for the next two years in media rights distributions, as they did when Utah/BYU left, from the departing members. We haven't paid them a dime. And there is no way we will ever pay them anywhere close to $67 million. Nowhere even remotely close. What we know right now is that a contract was signed, and that is the exact value of the invoice. You're exercizing wishful thinking and nothing more at this point.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 25, 2024 20:58:44 GMT -8
Utah State has played in 11 bowl games in the past 13 seasons. I'd have loved to be that "historically bad" over a similar stretch. That's why I put the comma. They are historically, bad, is different from they are historically bad. Maybe we should ask Harvard and Yale then, because they have had historically, comma, great football programs.
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 25, 2024 21:00:16 GMT -8
That's why I put the comma. They are historically, bad, is different from they are historically bad. Maybe we should ask Harvard and Yale then, because they have had historically, comma, great football programs. FOH www.winsipedia.com/utah-state/vs/colorado-state
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 25, 2024 21:04:59 GMT -8
The likelihood of Sacramento State building both a new basketball arena and new football stadium is exactly, precisely - 0.
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 25, 2024 21:06:34 GMT -8
When this is all done whoever did the negotiating on our behalf should be canned.
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Post by ag87 on Sept 25, 2024 21:08:18 GMT -8
Hey Texas State, what do you think? Wanna come west?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 25, 2024 21:09:09 GMT -8
I prefer to live in the present. Whatever Utah State was before 2011, they have obviously corrected the problem. I team that has played in 11 bowl games in the past 13 seasons is not a "bad" football program. The fact we had however many consecutive losing seasons between 1971 and 1998 has absolutely no bearing on how good our 2024 football team is, or how good our program has been in the recent past and how good it will be in the future. And the only people exercising "wishful thinking" at this point is the MWC when it comes to them receiving anywhere close to $67 million from the Pac-7.
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