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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 23, 2024 16:34:24 GMT -8
According to Pete Thamel UNLV's commitment to the Mountain West has not been formalized. The school sent in a Memorandum of Understanding to the Mountain West, but that was predicated on all eight schools committing.
The Rebels will be in before we all go to bed, and GU will join up soon. We just kneecapped the MWC and the WCC.
As Hyman Roth said, "Business is business."
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Post by orangethunder on Sept 23, 2024 16:37:35 GMT -8
Just out of curiosity . We get an eighth team and a whole new rebuilt Pac 12 . maybe even add new teams . What is to stop yet another dismantling of the conference by teams that want to go to bigger and better conferences ? Will there be a contract or such that prevents any of the teams in the new P 12 from suddenly picking up and leaving maybe even taking other teams with them ? Are realignments here to stay maybe on a yearly basis for all conferences ?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 23, 2024 16:45:34 GMT -8
Just out of curiosity . We get an eighth team and a whole new rebuilt Pac 12 . maybe even add new teams . What is to stop yet another dismantling of the conference by teams that want to go to bigger and better conferences ? Will there be a contract or such that prevents any of the teams in the new P 12 from suddenly picking up and leaving maybe even taking other teams with them ? Are realignments here to stay maybe on a yearly basis for all conferences ? Exit fees, until they get legally stopped. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 23, 2024 16:49:29 GMT -8
Just out of curiosity . We get an eighth team and a whole new rebuilt Pac 12 . maybe even add new teams . What is to stop yet another dismantling of the conference by teams that want to go to bigger and better conferences ? Will there be a contract or such that prevents any of the teams in the new P 12 from suddenly picking up and leaving maybe even taking other teams with them ? Are realignments here to stay maybe on a yearly basis for all conferences ? The P4 conferences have no interest in taking anyone who will be in the Pac-2/7/?. And if UNLV comes aboard, I can't think of another football school we would actively pursue (unless the B12 dumps BYU). Their next move will be the P4 leagues consolidating further later in this decade, or early in the next, when the next round of rights fees come open. They'll shed the dead weight that is Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Mississippi State, Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland, Houston, Cincinnati, Cal and maybe even BYU, for a start. I expect the MWC to make offers to UTEP and NMSU to reach eight teams again. They are the far, far Western branch of CUSA and will be much more of a geographical fit in the MWC; UTEP does have a history with some of the remaining MWC programs from the WAC era. Then all the G5 leagues would be pretty set geographically. |
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Post by orangethunder on Sept 23, 2024 16:53:09 GMT -8
I somehow do not see all those teams being dead weight
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 23, 2024 17:30:07 GMT -8
I somehow do not see all those teams being dead weight When is the last time any one of them competed for a championship? You think Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Florida State, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Penn State, etc., like those teams getting an equal share of the media money they generate? I forgot to include Wake Forest in the next-out class. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 23, 2024 17:34:10 GMT -8
Something I caught, of interest.
Pac-12 only offered to cover $2.5 million of Memphis and Tulane's $20M exit fees.
Interesting. I guess we didn't want them THAT bad? I am not sure about the validity of that rumor, but I think that had to go a long way to the decision about financial concerns. Memphis and Tulane were stuck with the long travel, despite standing to make much more in Media.
I still think there are appealing Texas teams not named UTSA we should go after.
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Post by grayman on Sept 23, 2024 17:39:09 GMT -8
Something I caught, of interest. Pac-12 only offered to cover $2.5 million of Memphis and Tulane's $20M exit fees. Interesting. I guess we didn't want them THAT bad? I am not sure about the validity of that rumor, but I think that had to go a long way to the decision about financial concerns. Memphis and Tulane were stuck with the long travel, despite standing to make much more in Media. I still think there are appealing Texas teams not named UTSA we should go after. I've been seeing it reported several times today. It sounds as if they wanted the Pac-12 foot the bill for all or most of it. |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 23, 2024 17:54:23 GMT -8
Why are threads like these being moved off the main board? How is conference alignment not related to OSU athletics?
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Post by obf on Sept 23, 2024 18:28:58 GMT -8
I somehow do not see all those teams being dead weight When is the last time any one of them competed for a championship? You think Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Florida State, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Penn State, etc., like those teams getting an equal share of the media money they generate? I forgot to include Wake Forest in the next-out class. To be fair Maryland has a National Championship in Basketball this century and usually competes at a high level year in year out. But, I understand and agree with you that there are a dozen teams that will be on the outside looking in in the near future. I like the Utah State Add. Hopefully UNLV and Gonzaga are confirmed soon as well. If we need to take Nevada to get UNLV I say go for it. They are good in baseball. |
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Post by obf on Sept 23, 2024 18:30:41 GMT -8
Something I caught, of interest. Pac-12 only offered to cover $2.5 million of Memphis and Tulane's $20M exit fees. Interesting. I guess we didn't want them THAT bad? I am not sure about the validity of that rumor, but I think that had to go a long way to the decision about financial concerns. Memphis and Tulane were stuck with the long travel, despite standing to make much more in Media. I still think there are appealing Texas teams not named UTSA we should go after. My thought was also... Maybe BSU, SDSU, CSU and FSU are paying more of their exit fees than we thought! note as well... Utah STATE... another land grant school  |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 23, 2024 21:47:06 GMT -8
Could someone who perhaps understands the legalese of the situation help me understand why we wouldn't just merge? Why destroy another conference? Could we not find a better use of the war chest than these exit fees and buyouts? Is it as simple as if we leave the Pac-12 we lose the funds because they belong to the legal entity that is the Pac-12 conference? Is it as simple as if the MWC votes to dissolve and they all join the Pac-12 they'd get equal shares?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 23, 2024 21:53:50 GMT -8
Something I caught, of interest. Pac-12 only offered to cover $2.5 million of Memphis and Tulane's $20M exit fees. Interesting. I guess we didn't want them THAT bad? I am not sure about the validity of that rumor, but I think that had to go a long way to the decision about financial concerns. Memphis and Tulane were stuck with the long travel, despite standing to make much more in Media. I still think there are appealing Texas teams not named UTSA we should go after. My thought was also... Maybe BSU, SDSU, CSU and FSU are paying more of their exit fees than we thought! note as well... Utah STATE... another land grant school I heard somewhere tonight that the 4 that joined were rumored to be getting 5 million each towards their buyouts from the Pac but were doing the remainder themselves. Don't know if that's true or just more speculation. |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 23, 2024 22:01:38 GMT -8
My thought was also... Maybe BSU, SDSU, CSU and FSU are paying more of their exit fees than we thought! note as well... Utah STATE... another land grant school I heard somewhere tonight that the 4 that joined were rumored to be getting 5 million each towards their buyouts from the Pac but were doing the remainder themselves. Don't know if that's true or just more speculation. If that's the case for presumably 6 programs, plus the escalating poaching penalty that's $97,500,000. |
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Post by damnstraight on Sept 23, 2024 22:41:56 GMT -8
Could someone who perhaps understands the legalese of the situation help me understand why we wouldn't just merge? Why destroy another conference? Could we not find a better use of the war chest than these exit fees and buyouts? Is it as simple as if we leave the Pac-12 we lose the funds because they belong to the legal entity that is the Pac-12 conference? Is it as simple as if the MWC votes to dissolve and they all join the Pac-12 they'd get equal shares? The Pac12 was one of the original Power-5 conferences that created the CFP system and being such, is guaranteed an automatic berth in the post-season tournament. If the Pac-12 dissolved and merged into the MWC , this automatic berth would be forfeited and we must return a certain amount of the money we were awarded from the departing Pac-12 teams. Thus, rebuilding the PAC-12 , short of getting invited into the Big-12, was really our only option to try to survive. |
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