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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 19, 2024 16:42:46 GMT -8
I'm not sure I believe George K was the reason it ultimately fell apart. I think the ship had sailed way before that. Yes, geopgraphy, time zones and centers of population were a much bigger problem then kliajerkoff. In star wars terms, the b1g and SEC have the highground of time zones and population centers and this was always going to eventually doom the pac12. The two emperors had the high ground at Austerlitz, but Napoleon used the Austrians and Russians' position against them, split the Austrian and Russians' line in half and completely annihilated the Austrian and Russian left wing. The Pac-12 was always going to be disadvantaged as against the Big Ten and SEC. But the Big 12 is still standing, while the Pac-12 is in ruins. And Yormack was looking for work in 2021, too! Ye gods! George K. spent way too much time in Montana. Larry Scott was almost invariably in California. He was always in UCLA and USC's ear and vice versa. George K., when he was not completely ignoring the Pac-12, got duped into spending all of his time on the expansion of the CFP and got duped by the Big Ten with the ACC-Big Ten-Pac-12 Alliance. He was too busy concentrating on important steps numbers 41 and 42 and not minding the store that was UCLA and USC. The Pac-12 was not dead until George K. came on board. He took a bad position and made it a billion times worse.
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Post by larbeav on Jul 19, 2024 18:49:12 GMT -8
I heard from 'Simone' that all future Civil War games in all sports will be broadcast on Pac 12 Network... Very doubtful. When it's the ducks home game it will be on fox,Fox sports 1 or big ten network.
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Post by ftd on Jul 19, 2024 19:49:20 GMT -8
I heard from 'Simone' that all future Civil War games in all sports will be broadcast on Pac 12 Network... Very doubtful. When it's the ducks home game it will be on fox,Fox sports 1 or big ten network. Ferris says I am right...
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Post by darthbeavs on Jul 23, 2024 5:58:33 GMT -8
What are you, a Uck fan? lol Nobody is ignoring USC/UCLA, but many are acknowledging that the real damage was done by UO/UW. Fact - The conference would not have collapsed had UO/UW stayed. Not to mention the significant hosing they both gave to their respective in-state partner universities (OSU/WSU) by leaving. It just doesn't compare to what USC/UCLA did by a long shot. That's total bulls%#t. "the conference" would have stayed together at $20,000,000 a year while Northwestern and Rutgers and Indiana, etc, etc, etc, earned triple that. USC did this, period. The rest just made sound decisions. Wrong. I love your enthusiasm, though. Got get 'em tiger! lol
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 23, 2024 9:41:38 GMT -8
That's total bulls%#t. "the conference" would have stayed together at $20,000,000 a year while Northwestern and Rutgers and Indiana, etc, etc, etc, earned triple that. USC did this, period. The rest just made sound decisions. Wrong. I love your enthusiasm, though. Got get 'em tiger! lol LMAO seriously - that post made me think "we need an option to downvote here"
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Post by ee1990 on Jul 23, 2024 20:18:57 GMT -8
That's total bulls%#t. "the conference" would have stayed together at $20,000,000 a year while Northwestern and Rutgers and Indiana, etc, etc, etc, earned triple that. USC did this, period. The rest just made sound decisions. Wrong. I love your enthusiasm, though. Got get 'em tiger! lol You are incredibly stupid if you think it would have been a good idea for the 10 "betrayers" to take literally 1/3 of what Indiana and Northwestern are making. Legit_f%#*ing_stupid.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jul 24, 2024 7:33:49 GMT -8
And the thread devolves into bickering, and personal attacks......big surprise.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 24, 2024 8:39:22 GMT -8
Wrong. I love your enthusiasm, though. Got get 'em tiger! lol You are incredibly stupid if you think it would have been a good idea for the 10 "betrayers" to take literally 1/3 of what Indiana and Northwestern are making. Legit_f%#*ing_stupid. Stanford and Cal are taking less than 1/3 of what Indiana, etc., will earn from the Big Ten. Six others are taking about half, The only schools that will match what Indiana is making are UCLA and USC.
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 24, 2024 11:00:55 GMT -8
You are incredibly stupid if you think it would have been a good idea for the 10 "betrayers" to take literally 1/3 of what Indiana and Northwestern are making. Legit_f%#*ing_stupid. Stanford and Cal are taking less than 1/3 of what Indiana, etc., will earn from the Big Ten. Six others are taking about half, The only schools that will match what Indiana is making are UCLA and USC. I never fail to be amazed at how bad that dude's takes are.
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Post by ee1990 on Jul 24, 2024 21:01:07 GMT -8
Stanford and Cal are taking less than 1/3 of what Indiana, etc., will earn from the Big Ten. Six others are taking about half, The only schools that will match what Indiana is making are UCLA and USC. I never fail to be amazed at how bad that dude's takes are. lol what. You guys are so f%#*ing stupid. The B1G 4 will be making perhaps near $100,000,000 a year with the next contract. The Apple deal without the Socal teams was like $20,000,000 a year. Oregon and Washington with their half cut are going to get over $30,000,000 a year PLUS B1G Network payouts, AND bowl game payouts AND basketball payouts AND CFBPO payouts, and you stupid motherf%#*ers compare that to CAL and Stanford in the ACC? Can you tie your own shoes?
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Post by ee1990 on Jul 24, 2024 21:02:14 GMT -8
You are incredibly stupid if you think it would have been a good idea for the 10 "betrayers" to take literally 1/3 of what Indiana and Northwestern are making. Legit_f%#*ing_stupid. Stanford and Cal are taking less than 1/3 of what Indiana, etc., will earn from the Big Ten. Six others are taking about half, The only schools that will match what Indiana is making are UCLA and USC. So you think they should have taken EVEN LESS? *That* is your argument? JFC. Oregon and Washington got CUCKED by USC and UCLA and are still going to be making way more money than the ACC programs. Hell, didn't those two agree to not even take a cut for a couple years? Y'all so stupid.
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Post by NativeBeav on Jul 25, 2024 5:59:06 GMT -8
I never fail to be amazed at how bad that dude's takes are. lol what. You guys are so f%#*ing stupid. The B1G 4 will be making perhaps near $100,000,000 a year with the next contract. The Apple deal without the Socal teams was like $20,000,000 a year. Oregon and Washington with their half cut are going to get over $30,000,000 a year PLUS B1G Network payouts, AND bowl game payouts AND basketball payouts AND CFBPO payouts, and you stupid motherf%#*ers compare that to CAL and Stanford in the ACC? Can you tie your own shoes? Ah yes - revealing your true colors again I see. Because, nothing says we are all Beaver fans, and bleed orange and black, like calling your fellow Beavs names. Congratulations!
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jul 25, 2024 6:52:35 GMT -8
Wow, really going sideways in here!
The way I see it, the lesser cut is much less important than having a P4 lifeline. Right now, you just want a seat at the table. Agree that the money will be there next contract.....unless this whole thing blows up somehow....who F'n knows
That's why Furd, and Cal took less.... It's why all P12 schools took what they did. Rats off a sinking ship. The ACC imploding will muddy the waters again.
I can still hate the players, and the game, if you know what I mean. FTd and their stupid floating duck they put in that stupid river.....somebody should be popping that MF'er!
It'd be nice if we could discuss these things in here with a little decency. I realize that is probably too much to ask.
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Post by whocares on Jul 25, 2024 7:35:22 GMT -8
Somebody needs a time out, and their diaper changed.
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Post by speakthetruth on Jul 25, 2024 7:53:34 GMT -8
The excuse by the ucks for leaving the pac12 has been because uw was. I am tired of that excuse. The ucks always try to portray themselves as leaders, as on the cusp of newness (big inflatable duck at big 10 media days), Harrington and Nix billboards in NYC, etc...). Yet here they are and have been using uw as the excuse they had to leave. Screw them. They are as responsible for what has happened as anybody. They obviously aren't the leaders that they have conned others to believe they are. F them.
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