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Post by pabeaver on Jan 25, 2024 21:36:42 GMT -8
Yo! Sportsfan85 You are obviously new around these parts. I've been a season ticket holder for 25 years. I'm the farthest thing from a fairweather fan. I'm actually loyal to a fault. I bleed orange and black and wrote an article for this site called "The Wiseguy Weekly" when it was called Beaverfootball.com back around 2003 ish. This is when DNorz ran the site and I believe OrangeAttack was the moderator. I'm a donor and alumni class of '92. Anyhows, I think D3 football would be refreshing. My motive is not to punish OSU by any means. I support the coaches and players. I'm just ready for change. D1 football is a new animal. The transfer portal, NIL, coaches salaries, etc. I'm on the fence, but seriously looking forward to supporting some of our smaller D3 schools here in Oregon. Bleed dat! Class of 85 so I guess you are the new guy in these parts. During my years at OSU 9 wins and 2 ties, so don’t tell me about being loyal. I’ve watched plenty of bad football where the Beavers probably would be a 50/50 game against Linfeild during that span. Enjoy the change watching D3 football maybe you can find a good D3 basketball program to follow as well. 85, I appreciate your passion for the Beavers and your overall point. Most of us that have been on these boards for a long time, know that Bleeda, and the rest of the degens aren’t going anywhere.
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 26, 2024 12:11:48 GMT -8
Oklahoma and Oregon fan. Yeah, I am not a big fan of Pettibone. He was better than Avezzano and Fertig, but he was just an awful hire. Stupid decision by the AD. Still, he made the program better for Riley to come in and take Oregon State to the next level. And then Erickson was handed the baton and kept the momentum going, almost to the top before things plateaued for a half decade. You humanize the guy, but I will refuse to do that. I can appreciate that things did not work out well for him, but I still dislike him. Pettibone did two things that really helped the program. He pushed for and helped with fundraising for the original Valley Football Center. It was small, but he got boosters to see we needed facility upgrades and it set the foundation. The other thing that he did is really push recruiting offensive lineman that was especially necessary for his system. But, it also left a good foundation for Riley to build on. Seemed to me that a LOT of Pettibone's recruiting prowess seemed to be appealing to some pretty overt religious themes. I don't know all of the history, but I seem to recall maybe the AD at the time and several high-profile coaches wore their religion on their sleeves and recruited in that vein.
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Jan 26, 2024 13:36:20 GMT -8
Pettibone did two things that really helped the program. He pushed for and helped with fundraising for the original Valley Football Center. It was small, but he got boosters to see we needed facility upgrades and it set the foundation. The other thing that he did is really push recruiting offensive lineman that was especially necessary for his system. But, it also left a good foundation for Riley to build on. Seemed to me that a LOT of Pettibone's recruiting prowess seemed to be appealing to some pretty overt religious themes. I don't know all of the history, but I seem to recall maybe the AD at the time and several high-profile coaches wore their religion on their sleeves and recruited in that vein. Dutch Baughman most definitely.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 26, 2024 14:09:14 GMT -8
Pettibone did two things that really helped the program. He pushed for and helped with fundraising for the original Valley Football Center. It was small, but he got boosters to see we needed facility upgrades and it set the foundation. The other thing that he did is really push recruiting offensive lineman that was especially necessary for his system. But, it also left a good foundation for Riley to build on. Seemed to me that a LOT of Pettibone's recruiting prowess seemed to be appealing to some pretty overt religious themes. I don't know all of the history, but I seem to recall maybe the AD at the time and several high-profile coaches wore their religion on their sleeves and recruited in that vein. Jerry had a Muslim QB.
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Post by jayvinson on Jan 26, 2024 14:48:17 GMT -8
Not saying that it's a bad thing, but do you not think that that is a factor is Scott Rueck's recruiting, whether overt or not?
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 26, 2024 16:44:26 GMT -8
Seemed to me that a LOT of Pettibone's recruiting prowess seemed to be appealing to some pretty overt religious themes. I don't know all of the history, but I seem to recall maybe the AD at the time and several high-profile coaches wore their religion on their sleeves and recruited in that vein. Jerry had a Muslim QB. So? He probably had some atheists or agnostics as well.
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Post by irimi on Jan 26, 2024 20:19:14 GMT -8
Seemed to me that a LOT of Pettibone's recruiting prowess seemed to be appealing to some pretty overt religious themes. I don't know all of the history, but I seem to recall maybe the AD at the time and several high-profile coaches wore their religion on their sleeves and recruited in that vein. Jerry had a Muslim QB. I wonder how that works with Ramadan. Especially when it comes in Fall. Not sure if the whole fasting while the sun is up would be so good for an elite athlete.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 26, 2024 20:31:14 GMT -8
I wonder how that works with Ramadan. Especially when it comes in Fall. Not sure if the whole fasting while the sun is up would be so good for an elite athlete. Ramadan was from January to April, while Jerry was coach. Hakeem Olajuwon played better during Ramadan. He said that the fasting helped him better focus his body. He said that he would try and continue the fast but did not have the willpower after Ramadan to continue it more than a couple of days.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 26, 2024 20:31:43 GMT -8
I wonder how that works with Ramadan. Especially when it comes in Fall. Not sure if the whole fasting while the sun is up would be so good for an elite athlete. Hakeem did it in the NBA and was pretty damn good.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 26, 2024 20:33:27 GMT -8
So? He probably had some atheists or agnostics as well. Many have said you had to be a Christian to play. Obviously not. I believe Buster Elahee was a Muslim too. And some of the defensive guys I knew were definitely not church-goers.
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Post by irimi on Jan 26, 2024 21:14:21 GMT -8
I wonder how that works with Ramadan. Especially when it comes in Fall. Not sure if the whole fasting while the sun is up would be so good for an elite athlete. Ramadan was from January to April, while Jerry was coach. Hakeem Olajuwon played better during Ramadan. He said that the fasting helped him better focus his body. He said that he would try and continue the fast but did not have the willpower after Ramadan to continue it more than a couple of days. Fascinating. Strict Muslims, like my students, aren't even allowed water while the sun is up. I think Hakeem must've made an exception for that, don't you?
Well, crap. I just looked and indeed Hakeem refrained from drinking water even during the game.
I am a wimp. lol
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Post by jimbob on Jan 26, 2024 23:33:16 GMT -8
Not saying that it's a bad thing, but do you not think that that is a factor is Scott Rueck's recruiting, whether overt or not? No---but what Scott Rueck does seem to do is recruit good character individuals that come from stable good character families and a by product of good character families is that they are often Christian.
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Post by seastape on Jan 27, 2024 7:58:19 GMT -8
I definitely think we should argue about the merits of various religions on a football board. Sounds healthy and I'm sure we can all reach an agreement about the matter at the end.
Or maybe the best choice is to end the discussion before it really goes off the rails...
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 27, 2024 9:17:10 GMT -8
Not saying that it's a bad thing, but do you not think that that is a factor is Scott Rueck's recruiting, whether overt or not? No---but what Scott Rueck does seem to do is recruit good character individuals that come from stable good character families and a by product of good character families is that they are often Christian. Or Jewish. Or Muslim. Or Hindu. Or Buddhist. Or agnostic. Or atheist.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 27, 2024 9:20:08 GMT -8
You forgot Druid, but then again that probably only worked with the Tall Firs club down the road.
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