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Post by beaverology on Jan 5, 2024 8:00:13 GMT -8
Watching my team get gutted one player at a time is beyond brutal. Is there an agent contacting every Beaver starter offering them, or is it just the Michigan State NIL Collective? All of our returning starters at key positions are being targeted, offered and results in them leaving. Where is Dam Nation?
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 5, 2024 8:05:38 GMT -8
Dang......I remember a couple weeks ago thinking we did Ok in retaining talent. Not feeling like that at the moment.
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Post by alwaysorange on Jan 5, 2024 8:08:04 GMT -8
I thought I heard the defense loved Bray. Arnold, macarenas, lolohea, Mccoy.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 5, 2024 8:12:36 GMT -8
Every key piece on both sides is being pulled away, almost orchestrated. This is the sum of all fears. Who's left to poach? The offense has been picked clean. Let's look at the other side: Robinson? Melvin Jordan IV?
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 5, 2024 8:17:36 GMT -8
Every key piece on both sides is being pulled away, almost orchestrated. This is the sum of all fears. Who's left to poach? Robinson? Melvin Jordan IV? Jordan can't go right now because the portal is closed. Sione has graduated, so he can leave at any time. Until the next portal in the spring, we could only lose grad transfers.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 5, 2024 8:23:03 GMT -8
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Post by beavitornot on Jan 5, 2024 8:56:59 GMT -8
Well, we’ve now lost literally everyone we worried about, at least we can stop worrying.
Really hope Bray can coach because his hire didn’t, as so many argued, seem to do much for retaining talent.
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 5, 2024 9:03:56 GMT -8
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Post by jrbeavo on Jan 5, 2024 9:19:08 GMT -8
Well, we’ve now lost literally everyone we worried about, at least we can stop worrying. Really hope Bray can coach because his hire didn’t, as so many argued, seem to do much for retaining talent. There was not a coach we were looking at that would have forestalled this. This is about our lack of affiliation w a P4 conference as so many have said. We are in for a complete reset, we shall see what we can pull together in the Spring. My opinion on this has always been that we are just trying to hang around until the realignment has a chance to blow up. I believe there is a reason we have made no commitments to the MW or any other conference (short of a scheduling deal). We have the infrastructure, the fan/alum base and facilities to compete at the top levels (just not at the top level of the top level) so hopefully the rapid changes keep coming and something breaks our way soon.
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Post by orangeattack on Jan 5, 2024 9:33:06 GMT -8
Well, we’ve now lost literally everyone we worried about, at least we can stop worrying. Really hope Bray can coach because his hire didn’t, as so many argued, seem to do much for retaining talent. There was not a coach we were looking at that would have forestalled this. This is about our lack of affiliation w a P4 conference as so many have said. We are in for a complete reset, we shall see what we can pull together in the Spring. My opinion on this has always been that we are just trying to hang around until the realignment has a chance to blow up. I believe there is a reason we have made no commitments to the MW or any other conference (short of a scheduling deal). We have the infrastructure, the fan/alum base and facilities to compete at the top levels (just not at the top level of the top level) so hopefully the rapid changes keep coming and something breaks our way soon. 100% this.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 5, 2024 9:37:43 GMT -8
Well, we’ve now lost literally everyone we worried about, at least we can stop worrying. Really hope Bray can coach because his hire didn’t, as so many argued, seem to do much for retaining talent. There was not a coach we were looking at that would have forestalled this. This is about our lack of affiliation w a P4 conference as so many have said. We are in for a complete reset, we shall see what we can pull together in the Spring. My opinion on this has always been that we are just trying to hang around until the realignment has a chance to blow up. I believe there is a reason we have made no commitments to the MW or any other conference (short of a scheduling deal). We have the infrastructure, the fan/alum base and facilities to compete at the top levels (just not at the top level of the top level) so hopefully the rapid changes keep coming and something breaks our way soon. They main reason that we do not want to join a conference right away is that we don't want to share the $$$ from the Pac 12 for the next two years. But, yes, the secondary benefit is that another conference may blow up leading to a better path forward.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 5, 2024 9:37:59 GMT -8
Seniors who have graduated have little incentive to stay for a fifth year. They can get paid, go someplace and take six hours in a bogus MA program, and then be done.
This happens no matter who is coach.
I'm not sure it has anything to do with our conference affiliation, or lack thereof. The portal is jammed full of players from P4 conferences.
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Post by fishbeav on Jan 5, 2024 9:42:38 GMT -8
Read the article in the opinion section of the Washington post written bye George Will. It points out the amount of money being floated in the NIL. Most of these kids will get more from NIL deals and the portal than they ever would get from the NFL.
I can't fault the players The system has no controls and is just going crazy.
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Post by NativeBeav on Jan 5, 2024 9:44:20 GMT -8
100%. Now - does anyone want to now go back and change their vote in the poll posted, "Would you take DJU back if he decided to come back?"
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 5, 2024 9:55:20 GMT -8
Why would anyone be mad at DJ? Lolohea made up his own mind to enter the portal. Once he did, why wouldn't DJ want him to come to FSU?
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