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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 5, 2023 8:42:57 GMT -8
We'll have to agree to disagree. I'd rather be out the payday than suck up to Oregon for a seat at the beggar's table. And doesn't your last sentence pretty much imply that OSU is interested in continuing it? Perhaps the administration feels the same as many on this board do. I think that the administration knows that you are looking at monstrous cuts, unless you make a deal with the Devil. One $2+ million football game helps to keep the lights on. Oregon is going to have to buy out a game, and likely increase the difficulty of their schedule as well, to make that proposed 2 million dollar payout for the Beavs happen. Gee that would be swell of them. I don’t see it happening. |
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Post by irimi on Nov 5, 2023 11:54:34 GMT -8
I think that the administration knows that you are looking at monstrous cuts, unless you make a deal with the Devil. One $2+ million football game helps to keep the lights on. Oregon is going to have to buy out a game, and likely increase the difficulty of their schedule as well, to make that proposed 2 million dollar payout for the Beavs happen. Gee that would be swell of them. I don’t see it happening. They are waiting for the reunion tour. Think of the demand for tickets! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 5, 2023 14:19:16 GMT -8
I think that the administration knows that you are looking at monstrous cuts, unless you make a deal with the Devil. One $2+ million football game helps to keep the lights on. Oregon is going to have to buy out a game, and likely increase the difficulty of their schedule as well, to make that proposed 2 million dollar payout for the Beavs happen. Gee that would be swell of them. I don’t see it happening. They would be entitled to 2 million dollars, as well. If they lose the Whitman County case, they are going to need more money. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 5, 2023 14:24:36 GMT -8
You keep throwing out that 2 million number, could you explain how you arrive at that?
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 5, 2023 15:59:11 GMT -8
You keep throwing out that 2 million number, could you explain how you arrive at that? It doesn’t exist, so don’t expect an answer. We would have to pay them to come to Reser next year, just like any other non conference opponent. They’re not paying to come here and no way in hell should we play them to play in the landfill two years in a row. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 5, 2023 17:31:15 GMT -8
If we do play them, the next time has to be at Reser.
But in a home-and-home, we'd pay then $200K or whatever for expenses, and keep the rest. Next year when we go to Autzen, they'd pay us $200k for expenses, and they'd keep the rest. That's home H&Hs work. You make your money on the home end, get expenses on the road end.
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 5, 2023 17:34:17 GMT -8
If we do play them, the next time has to be at Reser. But in a home-and-home, we'd pay then $200K or whatever for expenses, and keep the rest. Next year when we go to Autzen, they'd pay us $200k for expenses, and they'd keep the rest. That's home H&Hs work. You make your money on the home end, get expenses on the road end. You want to play at Autzen again next year? Hell, no. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 5, 2023 18:19:11 GMT -8
If we do play them, the next time has to be at Reser.
But in a home-and-home, we'd pay then $200K or whatever for expenses, and keep the rest. Next year when we go to Autzen, they'd pay us $200k for expenses, and they'd keep the rest. That's home H&Hs work. You make your money on the home end, get expenses on the road end. You want to play at Autzen again next year? Hell, no. No. And I said so. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 5, 2023 20:22:32 GMT -8
You keep throwing out that 2 million number, could you explain how you arrive at that? That's my estimation on the colleges' media rights deal plus gate share on a game like that. It stopped being important with the stupid share and share alike Pac-12 contract, but it used to matter under the old Pac-10 contract, because your shares were based partly on media rights and gate. Oregon State cleared in excess of $1 million on the 2008 Penn State game, for example, even though basically no one watched it and even after the Pac-10 got their cut. If Oregon State is going independent, game quality will matter a lot in making ends meet. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 6, 2023 5:20:18 GMT -8
You want to play at Autzen again next year? Hell, no. No. And I said so. “Next year when we go to autzen” |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 6, 2023 10:16:16 GMT -8
But in a home-and-home, we'd pay them $200K or whatever for expenses, and keep the rest. THE next year when we go to Autzen, they'd pay us $200k for expenses, and they'd keep the rest.
Thought I was pretty clear, having opened by stating the "next time" we played them had to be at Reser. Apparently I was not. I added "the" to clear up any confusion. Clear and concise writing is something I take pride in. I will do better next time.
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Post by jayvinson on Nov 6, 2023 10:23:58 GMT -8
Well, Henry, obviously Cliff K. never paid attention to you 😉
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 6, 2023 12:14:06 GMT -8
You keep throwing out that 2 million number, could you explain how you arrive at that? That's my estimation on the colleges' media rights deal plus gate share on a game like that. It stopped being important with the stupid share and share alike Pac-12 contract, but it used to matter under the old Pac-10 contract, because your shares were based partly on media rights and gate. Oregon State cleared in excess of $1 million on the 2008 Penn State game, for example, even though basically no one watched it and even after the Pac-10 got their cut. If Oregon State is going independent, game quality will matter a lot in making ends meet. I think your estimation is flat out wrong. I'm not sure if you're expecting some kind of 50/50 split? I don't see oregon agreeing to come to Reser, especially if they have to buy out another team to do it. I don't see uo giving up any more money to OSU for playing them at the dump than OSU would pay them on a future visit. I certainly don't see OSU clearing 2 million over and above what they'd clear by scheduling just about anyone else for a home game. We can estimate all we want, but I don't think playing ex-PAC members will be a focus of Barnes' if he has to scramble to put a schedule together, it'll be likely a struggle just to find 9 games. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 6, 2023 14:23:33 GMT -8
That's my estimation on the colleges' media rights deal plus gate share on a game like that. It stopped being important with the stupid share and share alike Pac-12 contract, but it used to matter under the old Pac-10 contract, because your shares were based partly on media rights and gate. Oregon State cleared in excess of $1 million on the 2008 Penn State game, for example, even though basically no one watched it and even after the Pac-10 got their cut. If Oregon State is going independent, game quality will matter a lot in making ends meet. I think your estimation is flat out wrong. I'm not sure if you're expecting some kind of 50/50 split? I don't see oregon agreeing to come to Reser, especially if they have to buy out another team to do it. I don't see uo giving up any more money to OSU for playing them at the dump than OSU would pay them on a future visit. I certainly don't see OSU clearing 2 million over and above what they'd clear by scheduling just about anyone else for a home game. We can estimate all we want, but I don't think playing ex-PAC members will be a focus of Barnes' if he has to scramble to put a schedule together, it'll be likely a struggle just to find 9 games. Media deals are split. Then, there would be some share of the gate. The last time that I checked that, it was capped at something like $250,000 for conference opponents, but that would not be true in a non-conference game. I would add that everyone is going to be putting a lot of pressure on everyone else to get the Apple Cup and Civil War scheduled. That includes, the universities, the boosters, media, etc. You do not want to be the one that 86s either of those rivalry games, because it would be a significant black eye for your program. And that goes for Oregon State. You don't want to be the team that is too scared to play Oregon at Reser. Your program may never recover. California and Utah should be added immediately, the two easiest teams to add. Then, hopefully, we can get at least an additional five Mountain West teams together to make a complete schedule. Otherwise, you are looking at teams like Army, Connecticut, and Navy to fill out a schedule. |
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Post by p8nted on Nov 7, 2023 10:58:27 GMT -8
I think your estimation is flat out wrong. I'm not sure if you're expecting some kind of 50/50 split? I don't see oregon agreeing to come to Reser, especially if they have to buy out another team to do it. I don't see uo giving up any more money to OSU for playing them at the dump than OSU would pay them on a future visit. I certainly don't see OSU clearing 2 million over and above what they'd clear by scheduling just about anyone else for a home game. We can estimate all we want, but I don't think playing ex-PAC members will be a focus of Barnes' if he has to scramble to put a schedule together, it'll be likely a struggle just to find 9 games. Media deals are split. Then, there would be some share of the gate. The last time that I checked that, it was capped at something like $250,000 for conference opponents, but that would not be true in a non-conference game. I would add that everyone is going to be putting a lot of pressure on everyone else to get the Apple Cup and Civil War scheduled. That includes, the universities, the boosters, media, etc. You do not want to be the one that 86s either of those rivalry games, because it would be a significant black eye for your program. And that goes for Oregon State. You don't want to be the team that is too scared to play Oregon at Reser. Your program may never recover. California and Utah should be added immediately, the two easiest teams to add. Then, hopefully, we can get at least an additional five Mountain West teams together to make a complete schedule. Otherwise, you are looking at teams like Army, Connecticut, and Navy to fill out a schedule. in Non conference play the media $$ belongs to the home team and they don't share gate $$. I doubt the MWC plays along unless you offer some sort of future merger deal. Why would they? Only two have openings and they are looking for home games. MWC teams pay between $500K and $700K for teams to visit their stadiums OOC for a one and done deals. FCS might be cheaper but not much. |
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