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Post by korculabeav on Sept 9, 2023 16:14:00 GMT -8
It is evident from the filed complaint that George acted in his own self interest and not for the good of the remaining members. I am curious what the Kliavkoff defenders on here think about this latest revelation?
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Sept 9, 2023 16:23:10 GMT -8
It's Scott's fault
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 9, 2023 16:24:01 GMT -8
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Sept 9, 2023 16:25:24 GMT -8
If we really want to be technical it's Woodrow Wilson's fault.
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Post by castorcanadensis on Sept 9, 2023 16:30:37 GMT -8
Can we fire hole?
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 9, 2023 17:44:51 GMT -8
I hope the lawsuit pisses off the Pac 12 office.
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Post by OriginalWhizzinator on Sept 9, 2023 17:46:09 GMT -8
FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!! I like it! 😎
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 9, 2023 18:09:48 GMT -8
George, u suck. Can’t be bothered to show up to any game for the conference.
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Post by irimi on Sept 9, 2023 18:10:56 GMT -8
No wrong answers here.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Sept 9, 2023 19:36:55 GMT -8
This thread should be titled
"Now can we set Kluavkoff on fire? "
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Post by Dave86 on Sept 10, 2023 10:58:09 GMT -8
It is evident from the filed complaint that George acted in his own self interest and not for the good of the remaining members. I am curious what the Kliavkoff defenders on here think about this latest revelation? Yes, George Kliavkoff called together a board of directors meeting with 9 or 10 schools of the PAC-12, not the remaining 2 members. If this meeting takes place, the schools could vote to dissolve the conference, enabling the assets to be split evenly by all 12 schools and Kliavkoff pocketing the remaining two years of his contract, worth $7M. As PAC-12 commissioner, Kliavkoff should be acting for the wellbeing of the conference. That includes preservation. The PAC-12 board of directors has not told him to do otherwise. It sure seems like Kliavkoff's behavior provides sufficient grounds for termination with cause, costing Kliavkoff the last two years of his contract. He has no one to blame but himself for this. I have serious concerns about Kliavkoff's character.
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Post by bvrbooster on Sept 10, 2023 11:34:44 GMT -8
That's absolutely correct, Dave. Two things are very obvious to anybody:
(1) The bylaws, and recent precedent, dictate that those schools that announce they are leaving the conference forfeit their right to vote on conference matters from that moment forward, not after they have, indeed, left. So the conference commissioner should not be seeking their counsel or input on anything but routine day to day running of the conference, and only for those days during which they are still members.
(2) Having announced their intention to leave en masse after the close of the current academic year, thus delivering a death blow to the most successful conference in NCAA history, it is abundantly clear to anyone with an IQ of at least 100 who has reached 10 years of age that those schools have 100% focus on their own individual best interests and 0% on the conference that employs Mr. Kliavkoff to look out for its interests.
Clearly, then, calling this meeting is not in the conference's interests, but in that of those who are destroying it. It is the collegiate equivalent of providing aid and comfort to the enemy, and is most certainly an offense worthy of and deserving of termination for cause.
Just as soon as OSU and WSU get voting control, they should fire, without any severance package, George and any cronies, and replace him on an interim basis with Mr. Luck. If George wants to sue, let him, but it is extremely important to have someone running the show who actually cares about the show.
p.s. It would be much better to replace George with an outsider of outstanding personal reputation and qualifications, like Condeleeza Rice, if such could be persuaded to fight for a cause.
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 10, 2023 11:53:04 GMT -8
That's absolutely correct, Dave. Two things are very obvious to anybody: (1) The bylaws, and recent precedent, dictate that those schools that announce they are leaving the conference forfeit their right to vote on conference matters from that moment forward, not after they have, indeed, left. So the conference commissioner should not be seeking their counsel or input on anything but routine day to day running of the conference, and only for those days during which they are still members. (2) Having announced their intention to leave en masse after the close of the current academic year, thus delivering a death blow to the most successful conference in NCAA history, it is abundantly clear to anyone with an IQ of at least 100 who has reached 10 years of age that those schools have 100% focus on their own individual best interests and 0% on the conference that employs Mr. Kliavkoff to look out for its interests. Clearly, then, calling this meeting is not in the conference's interests, but in that of those who are destroying it. It is the collegiate equivalent of providing aid and comfort to the enemy, and is most certainly an offense worthy of and deserving of termination for cause. Just as soon as OSU and WSU get voting control, they should fire, without any severance package, George and any cronies, and replace him on an interim basis with Mr. Luck. If George wants to sue, let him, but it is extremely important to have someone running the show who actually cares about the show. p.s. It would be much better to replace George with an outsider of outstanding personal reputation and qualifications, like Condeleeza Rice, if such could be persuaded to fight for a cause. POTW. Hopefully this puts to bed anyone’s thoughts on here that George had little to do with conference implosion and he is essential to run conference operations.
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 10, 2023 12:15:11 GMT -8
That's absolutely correct, Dave. Two things are very obvious to anybody: (1) The bylaws, and recent precedent, dictate that those schools that announce they are leaving the conference forfeit their right to vote on conference matters from that moment forward, not after they have, indeed, left. So the conference commissioner should not be seeking their counsel or input on anything but routine day to day running of the conference, and only for those days during which they are still members. (2) Having announced their intention to leave en masse after the close of the current academic year, thus delivering a death blow to the most successful conference in NCAA history, it is abundantly clear to anyone with an IQ of at least 100 who has reached 10 years of age that those schools have 100% focus on their own individual best interests and 0% on the conference that employs Mr. Kliavkoff to look out for its interests. Clearly, then, calling this meeting is not in the conference's interests, but in that of those who are destroying it. It is the collegiate equivalent of providing aid and comfort to the enemy, and is most certainly an offense worthy of and deserving of termination for cause. Just as soon as OSU and WSU get voting control, they should fire, without any severance package, George and any cronies, and replace him on an interim basis with Mr. Luck. If George wants to sue, let him, but it is extremely important to have someone running the show who actually cares about the show. p.s. It would be much better to replace George with an outsider of outstanding personal reputation and qualifications, like Condeleeza Rice, if such could be persuaded to fight for a cause. POTW. Hopefully this puts to bed anyone’s thoughts on here that George had little to do with conference implosion and he is essential to run conference operations. Don't think there is one post stating George had little to do. The crux is that he's been (as was Larry), an employee. The Bucks stops with the presidents.
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 10, 2023 12:17:30 GMT -8
POTW. Hopefully this puts to bed anyone’s thoughts on here that George had little to do with conference implosion and he is essential to run conference operations. Don't think there is one post stating George had little to do. The crux is that he's been (as was Larry), an employee. The Bucks stops with the presidents. Agreed. The new relevant topic of the moment is the reprehensible and unacceptable recent behaviors and actions of GK.
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