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Post by ag87 on Sept 12, 2023 8:38:29 GMT -8
Have Kliavkoff and Kevin McCarthy ever been photographed together?
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 12, 2023 11:36:28 GMT -8
Have Kliavkoff and Kevin McCarthy ever been photographed together? Careful.. |
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Post by sparty on Sept 12, 2023 11:45:49 GMT -8
Have Kliavkoff and Kevin McCarthy ever been photographed together? Has LaToya and Michael Jackson ever been photographed together?
Is Michael Jackson really dead? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 12, 2023 12:56:11 GMT -8
Have Kliavkoff and Kevin McCarthy ever been photographed together? I doubt it. Ellen Kliavkoff is a huge Democratic supporter................. |
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Post by ag87 on Sept 12, 2023 14:49:12 GMT -8
Ellen is his wife?
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Post by grayman on Sept 13, 2023 9:32:31 GMT -8
Have Kliavkoff and Kevin McCarthy ever been photographed together? Careful.. Maybe I'm missing something here but I just took the comment to mean that Kliavkoff and McCarthy kind of look like each other and not some political statement... |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Sept 13, 2023 10:13:42 GMT -8
It is evident from the filed complaint that George acted in his own self interest and not for the good of the remaining members. I am curious what the Kliavkoff defenders on here think about this latest revelation? I found a youtube of the actual hearing last night, watched and listened to the arguments. Here's a link if anyone else is interested: www.youtube.com/live/etM1LEzz8Ws?si=uAYbb3yvtEe8nlQDKilavkoff may or may not be a bad actor, capable or incapable of the skill necessary to adequately navigate the conference through this storm. He's not truly the captain of the ship in total control, he answers to a lot of other people. After listening to the arguments presented by both sides, he clearly was put in a no win position after the Duck and Husky girlfriended each other and bailed in the final hour of negotiations. 1. He answers to the conference BOD. That appears to be is a legal question that needs to be resolved. Who, legally, is now a voting BOD member? 2. There is nearly an entire years worth of P12 sports left to be played. According to defense counsel, that equates to roughly 500 million in expected revenue to the conference IF the conference and schools meet their obligations under the contract. This is a very real concern, they might not be able to live up to the terms of the contract without the ability of the commissioner to make decisions regarding conference, employee retention plans.. This impacts all current and soon to be former members and he was acting on his fiduciary duty, as I see it, in wanting this issue addressed. Should it be legally determined OSU and WSU are the only two remaining members with a right to vote on conference issues under the by-laws, it would still be in our interests to see this seasons conference games live up to the terms set forth in media and advertising contracts so the expected revenue is earned as agreed to. If there were bad actors, and it sure appears there were, I find it hard to point the finger solely at the commissioner for the existing members at the time failing to agree to a new media deal. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 13, 2023 11:48:41 GMT -8
What bugs me is the "conference" is supposely worried about retaining employees?
They were going to vote about dissolution today. If that were to happen and pass, there would be a ton of employees looking to get out before being forced out and they would really have a problem.
I'd think turning the conference over to someone who actually wants to see the conference remain a going concern would be the best possible scenario for the most employees as far as retaining jobs go.
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Post by sparty on Sept 13, 2023 11:52:40 GMT -8
No, He is changing his name to Ellen. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 13, 2023 11:57:35 GMT -8
Maybe I'm missing something here but I just took the comment to mean that Kliavkoff and McCarthy kind of look like each other and not some political statement... I guess all white people in their late 50s look alike to you? That's racist and agist! Dude, on what planet? Kevin McCarthy is a firefighter from Bakersfield, who worked his way through college, and George K. is a wealthy rower from Scarsdale, who went to Boston University. Yuck! No comparison. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 13, 2023 11:59:21 GMT -8
Yes, Ellen Kliavkoff is George's wife. |
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Post by ag87 on Sept 13, 2023 12:50:03 GMT -8
Maybe I'm missing something here but I just took the comment to mean that Kliavkoff and McCarthy kind of look like each other and not some political statement... I guess all white people in their late 50s look alike to you? That's racist and agist! Dude, on what planet? Kevin McCarthy is a firefighter from Bakersfield, who worked his way through college, and George K. is a wealthy rower from Scarsdale, who went to Boston University. Yuck! No comparison. I thought his dad was the firefighter. And Kevin's first full-time job was as a congressional aide? Not being political just trying to remember what I saw on TV during those days he was trying to get enough votes to be speaker. And he does look like Kliavkoff. Same silver hair, same haircut, same sunglasses, same stature, etc. |
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Post by TheGlove on Sept 13, 2023 12:54:49 GMT -8
 not fired, but banned. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Sept 13, 2023 13:21:21 GMT -8
What bugs me is the "conference" is supposely worried about retaining employees? They were going to vote about dissolution today. If that were to happen and pass, there would be a ton of employees looking to get out before being forced out and they would really have a problem. I'd think turning the conference over to someone who actually wants to see the conference remain a going concern would be the best possible scenario for the most employees as far as retaining jobs go. We'll never know what items would have been raised for a vote had today's meeting taken place. It's only logical the defectors hold a majority and if allowed a vote would certainly use it for self serving purposes and not that of the conferences best interests. I"m sill convinced the B1G had nothing to gain by inviting O and W other than they thought it would be the death blow to Pac 12 continuance. Eliminate a power 5 conference equals more tv dollars split among the remaining conferences. There's also the vote at the P5 table the P12 may still reserve right to for now. The problem is, they left survivors and those survivors are fighting back with a fury and from a position of strength both public opinion wise and legally. |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 13, 2023 13:28:52 GMT -8
What bugs me is the "conference" is supposely worried about retaining employees? They were going to vote about dissolution today. If that were to happen and pass, there would be a ton of employees looking to get out before being forced out and they would really have a problem. I'd think turning the conference over to someone who actually wants to see the conference remain a going concern would be the best possible scenario for the most employees as far as retaining jobs go. We'll never know what items would have been raised for a vote had today's meeting taken place. It's only logical the defectors hold a majority and if allowed a vote would certainly use it for self serving purposes and not that of the conferences best interests. I"m sill convinced the B1G had nothing to gain by inviting O and W other than they thought it would be the death blow to Pac 12 continuance. Eliminate a power 5 conference equals more tv dollars split among the remaining conferences. There's also the vote at the P5 table the P12 may still reserve right to for now. The problem is, they left survivors and those survivors are fighting back with a fury and from a position of strength both public opinion wise and legally. Well, it wouldn't put it past the other 10 and George to still have "met". Although there are Zoom records there are many ways to have "discussed" ancillary items to gain an idea of consensus if and when the Pac12 officially meets. The TRO was generally granted so no formal vote or decisions could be made. I'm not sure it would cover an "informal" fact finding session?? It would be a bad look, but so was calling for the initial meeting. |
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