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Post by bvrbooster on Aug 27, 2023 12:26:03 GMT -8
So Furd wouldn't join because they hate Mormons? Is that what's being presented here? I thought the enlightened Californians are sposed to be the most accepting of everyone??? Careful there, fish, or your bar will go to 50%. |
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Post by seastape on Aug 27, 2023 12:32:58 GMT -8
I removed any "likes" I gave to posts on the last part of this thread...don't want to be banned for a year. I got the banned-for-a-year warning for "politics" in some thread in which I replied to an earlier post that was political. I suspect "religion" carries the same weight.
On the other hand, I've seen plenty of political posts that where the moderators decided not to give bans, so I can't tell.
And still on another hand, maybe a foot at this point, maybe the board moderators don't care about religion.
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Post by bennyskid on Aug 27, 2023 12:40:12 GMT -8
It had nothing to do with Religion. BYU restricts what their professors can teach and they cannot go against the policies of the church in their instruction. They have been sanctioned by the AAUP for not allowing academic freedom with professors. That is what Stanford does not like.
As for giving the AAUP, the censure was not about the ability to teach evolution, period. It was about church employees - i.e. professors - using their church-paid positions to make non-scholarly statements about church doctrines regarding abortion and the ordination of women. These professors were denied tenure but continued to teach. Only a wannabe labor union like the AAUP could argue that such employees should be rewarded with permanent employment.
But if you still think that the AAUP should have the last word, then Stanford better not schedule Missouri, Georgia, LSU, Linfield, or - heaven forbid - the Minneapolis College of Art and Design.
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Post by 93beav on Aug 27, 2023 12:43:22 GMT -8
I'm still thinking this is Cal using this as leverage on the ACC, but if the ACC really is full of brainiacs, they should be able to figure out Stanford will never do it. For Stanford being such an elite institution, they're doing a lot of prostration in front of the House of the ACC.
Why don't they just anchor a less-money-more-academics league w/ Notre Dame? ND can anchor the East, they can anchor the West.
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Post by p8nted on Aug 27, 2023 13:15:39 GMT -8
It had nothing to do with Religion. BYU restricts what their professors can teach and they cannot go against the policies of the church in their instruction. They have been sanctioned by the AAUP for not allowing academic freedom with professors. That is what Stanford does not like. So why should furd give a s%#t what the Mormons do? Again it is about Academic freedom. |
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Post by p8nted on Aug 27, 2023 13:16:43 GMT -8
It had nothing to do with Religion. BYU restricts what their professors can teach and they cannot go against the policies of the church in their instruction. They have been sanctioned by the AAUP for not allowing academic freedom with professors. That is what Stanford does not like.
As for giving the AAUP, the censure was not about the ability to teach evolution, period. It was about church employees - i.e. professors - using their church-paid positions to make non-scholarly statements about church doctrines regarding abortion and the ordination of women. These professors were denied tenure but continued to teach. Only a wannabe labor union like the AAUP could argue that such employees should be rewarded with permanent employment.
But if you still think that the AAUP should have the last word, then Stanford better not schedule Missouri, Georgia, LSU, Linfield, or - heaven forbid - the Minneapolis College of Art and Design.
Oh I agree, but that none of those schools are in Stanford conference |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 27, 2023 13:32:38 GMT -8
So why should furd give a s%#t what the Mormons do? Again it is about Academic freedom. Meh, whatever......I'm going to choose not to engage in this one any further |
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Post by p8nted on Aug 27, 2023 13:45:30 GMT -8
Again it is about Academic freedom. Meh, whatever......I'm going to choose not to engage in this one any further Yea not productive discussion to be sure. I just mentioned what was said over the years whenever BYU wanted to be in the PAC. |
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Post by TheGlove on Aug 27, 2023 13:51:07 GMT -8
On the other hand, I've seen plenty of political posts that where the moderators decided not to give bans, so I can't tell. Links? |
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Post by seastape on Aug 27, 2023 16:18:16 GMT -8
On the other hand, I've seen plenty of political posts that where the moderators decided not to give bans, so I can't tell. Links? I have none. I don't really care if people get political in their posts unless they take it too far so it's not as if I take notes or call for peoples' heads. Nor am I worried about fairness from your (or other moderators') point of view. Just because I got a warning doesn't mean I want other people to get one or that I'm trying to get people busted. In this thread, I was just entertaining myself a little by discussing two things that are often banned at dinner parties: politics and religion and satirizing whether the current discussion was coming under your review. I was not calling for a ban or even hoping that the conversation would end. But I have seen political posts that seem to have escaped detection. I just don't care that they did. |
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Post by beavsteve on Aug 27, 2023 16:48:28 GMT -8
B12 reiterates that it is done with expansion link |
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 27, 2023 16:51:43 GMT -8
I have none. I don't really care if people get political in their posts unless they take it too far so it's not as if I take notes or call for peoples' heads. Nor am I worried about fairness from your (or other moderators') point of view. Just because I got a warning doesn't mean I want other people to get one or that I'm trying to get people busted. In this thread, I was just entertaining myself a little by discussing two things that are often banned at dinner parties: politics and religion and satirizing whether the current discussion was coming under your review. I was not calling for a ban or even hoping that the conversation would end. But I have seen political posts that seem to have escaped detection. I just don't care that they did. There have been plenty. I wish I could recall the one recently where Glove was actually involved/posted, was called out on it, and basically referred to mod discretion. The political crap only bothers me in the same way the current conference stuff does. Posters just make stuff up. Complete BS. Some post links which are typically BS, but not just a random poster who goes over the top. The assertions that people didn't care, didn't work hard enough, had biases, crazy conspiracy theories, etc. It just gets old, like the political back and forth. Most must not get to share enough in real life I guess. But, have yet to realize that no one here gives a flying eff who you voted for/why, what you believe about Covid or particular Dr or organization, nor your religious beliefs or absence of them. And, the real issue I have in this terms is it really limits some innocent (IMO) humor. You can't even attempt a sarcastic barb, or innuendo that references a funny trait or happening if it's about certain figures or episodes. Otherwise it's off to the races. The entire thread becomes a Fox, CNN, MNBC, Politico, or cut & paste novella from the encyclopedia, etc etc fest. Being a mod has it's own inherent biases, but folks could make it a much much easier task. And, a much more readable site. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Aug 27, 2023 17:34:56 GMT -8
[quote author=" rgeorge" source="/post/344748/thread" Being a mod has it's own inherent biases, but folks could make it a much much easier task. And, a much more readable site.[/quote] bwhahahaha, baseballlllls leading the charge on making the mods job easier, and the site more readable. Awesome, just awesome. |
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Post by 93beav on Aug 27, 2023 18:54:00 GMT -8
B12 reiterates that it is done with expansion linkAnother article based upon the tweet I posted earlier. So many sites out there just looking for page views.  I will say this - if the B12 ever does add the Pac-4, it may not because the B12 wants to, it may be because ESPN wants to...but if Stanford/Cal go to the ACC, I don't think they add OSU/WSU alone. More likely to add SDSU. |
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Post by avidbeaver on Aug 27, 2023 19:22:20 GMT -8
B12 reiterates that it is done with expansion linkAnother article based upon the tweet I posted earlier. So many sites out there just looking for page views. I will say this - if the B12 ever does add the Pac-4, it may not because the B12 wants to, it may be because ESPN wants to...but if Stanford/Cal go to the ACC, I don't think they add OSU/WSU alone. More likely to add SDSU. The BIG 12 or any other conference is done expanding until they do. Things change all the time. That being said, I won't believe anything until it happens. No matter whose tweets are quoted. I have seen so many things denied during realignment then it happens. I will be glad when everything is over. No matter what direction the Beavers go. Although, I hope they build the Pac with teams from the AAC and MWC. |
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