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Post by oldbeav on Aug 16, 2023 13:16:27 GMT -8
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 16, 2023 13:23:41 GMT -8
8-10? That sounds like a raid of the American Athletic Conference. Might as well just merge the four with the eight best of the American Athletic Conference, keep most of the money from both conferences, and call it a day. |
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Post by korculabeav on Aug 16, 2023 13:26:38 GMT -8
8-10? That sounds like a raid of the American Athletic Conference. Might as well just merge the four with the eight best of the American Athletic Conference, keep most of the money from both conferences, and call it a day. AAC has lowest exit fees for sure. Still see a desire to attract a couple of high potentials from the MWC, despite the high exit fees. Not sure if revenues the Pac-4 feel they have access to can be used to offset exit fees. SDSU would greatly bolster a new Pac with the San Diego TV market and other SoCal presence. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 16, 2023 13:26:57 GMT -8
Sounds more and more like Kliavkoff might take the fall for this since he's currently not involved in the conversations. Also it sounds more and more that long distance travel is going to be part of the plan.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 16, 2023 13:30:09 GMT -8
8-10? That sounds like a raid of the American Athletic Conference. Might as well just merge the four with the eight best of the American Athletic Conference, keep most of the money from both conferences, and call it a day. AAC has lowest exit fees for sure. Still see a desire to attract a couple of high potentials from the MWC, despite the high exit fees. Not sure if revenues the Pac-4 feel they have access to can be used to offset exit fees. SDSU would greatly bolster a new Pac with the San Diego TV market and other SoCal presence. Mountain West deal runs out after the 2025 season. At that point, you can go back in for free. It does not really make any sense to start throwing tens of millions at teams for two years, when you can get 'em far cheaper in year three. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 16, 2023 13:30:48 GMT -8
8-10? That sounds like a raid of the American Athletic Conference. Might as well just merge the four with the eight best of the American Athletic Conference, keep most of the money from both conferences, and call it a day. AAC has lowest exit fees for sure. Still see a desire to attract a couple of high potentials from the MWC, despite the high exit fees. Not sure if revenues the Pac-4 feel they have access to can be used to offset exit fees. SDSU would greatly bolster a new Pac with the San Diego TV market and other SoCal presence. If they can get enough teams from further east now to reach 8-10, maybe they could cherry pick the WMC in two years, assuming the buyouts expire at the same time the MWC media deal expires? |
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Post by orangeattack on Aug 16, 2023 13:34:12 GMT -8
AAC has lowest exit fees for sure. Still see a desire to attract a couple of high potentials from the MWC, despite the high exit fees. Not sure if revenues the Pac-4 feel they have access to can be used to offset exit fees. SDSU would greatly bolster a new Pac with the San Diego TV market and other SoCal presence. Mountain West deal runs out after the 2025 season. At that point, you can go back in for free. It does not really make any sense to start throwing tens of millions at teams for two years, when you can get 'em far cheaper in year three. Is there a scenario where a MWC team gets invited to the Pac12 under the agreement that they pay their own exit fees? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 16, 2023 13:39:35 GMT -8
AAC has lowest exit fees for sure. Still see a desire to attract a couple of high potentials from the MWC, despite the high exit fees. Not sure if revenues the Pac-4 feel they have access to can be used to offset exit fees. SDSU would greatly bolster a new Pac with the San Diego TV market and other SoCal presence. If they can get enough teams from further east now to reach 8-10, maybe they could cherry pick the WMC in two years, assuming the buyouts expire at the same time the MWC media deal expires? Yeah, the Mountain West requires a $30+ million buyout for two years. Might as well scoop up the best American Conference teams now. If it makes sense to add some Mountain West schools in two years, then add 'em. You basically have the choice have creating a conference with at least 14 teams, nine out of the Mountain West, or creating a better conference with fewer Mountain West teams. The American really wants to get back to being a Power Five (it was Power Six with American as the sixth conference until 2013), and this is a great way for the best of the American to do that. The Pac-12 is still a Power Five conference. Hopefully, the Pac-12 is working to cobble together a bowl slate, though. I hear that enough Pac-12 teams left that the contracts can be renegotiated. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 16, 2023 13:42:52 GMT -8
Mountain West deal runs out after the 2025 season. At that point, you can go back in for free. It does not really make any sense to start throwing tens of millions at teams for two years, when you can get 'em far cheaper in year three. Is there a scenario where a MWC team gets invited to the Pac12 under the agreement that they pay their own exit fees? I mean, you can craft it however you want. Teams could just offer to pay their buyouts, but why would they, as well, when they can just wait out the contract for two years, and assumably still get an invite somewhere. I think San Diego State was short-sided to not just leave. They would have been a shoe-in for team #5. Of course, they had a bird in the hand at the time. |
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Post by orangeattack on Aug 16, 2023 15:01:57 GMT -8
I think everyone is grabbing the "days away from a decision" and thinking that it means we are going to have some news about what teams are potentially going to be added to the conference. In reality, the "days from a decision" relates to the Bay Area schools, and the decision they are making is whether or not to commit to keeping the conference alive. |
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Post by 93beav on Aug 16, 2023 16:08:39 GMT -8
Is there a scenario where a MWC team gets invited to the Pac12 under the agreement that they pay their own exit fees? I mean, you can craft it however you want. Teams could just offer to pay their buyouts, but why would they, as well, when they can just wait out the contract for two years, and assumably still get an invite somewhere. I think San Diego State was short-sided to not just leave. They would have been a shoe-in for team #5. Of course, they had a bird in the hand at the time. Another horrible...horrible possibility (no really) is that if you had a revamped Pac conference you could try to take their media deal / exposure away from them when it ends in 2025. Then they'd have zero media deal and a reason to disband. But I would never want to do that to another conference, even if it were possible. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 16, 2023 16:28:46 GMT -8
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Post by RenoBeaver on Aug 16, 2023 16:29:34 GMT -8
Someone covering the AAC tweeted this out yesterday and the three rumored AAC were SMU, Memphis...and USF. The fourth was unknown.
If true I would guess the 4th team would be either Tulane or Rice (market and R1) or Tulsa (R2).
And if the end game is to poach the 2 best of the MWC, perhaps the goal is all three to create 6-team east and west divisions in 2025
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 16, 2023 16:33:01 GMT -8
This is 11 AAC teams, not 4.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 16, 2023 16:39:29 GMT -8
Be a nice baseball league. We could be a top half basketball team.
Mostly looks like random leftovers trying to creat a relevant conference for a seat at the table.
Here's a graphic
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