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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 25, 2023 16:07:32 GMT -8
After Cal on Sunday Road games vs Seattle uw uo Uggh...This could be an epic terrible year...think last year's men's hoops for comparison Really? They’re currently 14-9. How is that in the same universe as 3-28?
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 25, 2023 16:23:25 GMT -8
Really? They’re currently 14-9. How is that in the same universe as 3-28? Expectations vs Reality Hoops went from Elite 8 to sucking butt BB is going from hosting a SR to sucking the bottom of the P11 Maybe you should just give up and stop following. There are a lot of games left. And, if you didn’t think this team was going to take a step back, your expectations were not realistic. We lost 5 starters in the the field, probably our best hitting OF ever and a 1st round draft pick ace pitcher.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 25, 2023 16:32:41 GMT -8
Expectations vs Reality Hoops went from Elite 8 to sucking butt BB is going from hosting a SR to sucking the bottom of the P11 Maybe you should just give up and stop following. There are a lot of games left. And, if you didn’t think this team was going to take a step back, your expectations were not realistic. We lost 5 starters in the the field, probably our best hitting OF ever and a 1st round draft pick ace pitcher. Only 33, all hope is lost.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 25, 2023 16:46:54 GMT -8
Expectations vs Reality Hoops went from Elite 8 to sucking butt BB is going from hosting a SR to sucking the bottom of the P11 Maybe you should just give up and stop following. There are a lot of games left. And, if you didn’t think this team was going to take a step back, your expectations were not realistic. We lost 5 starters in the the field, probably our best hitting OF ever and a 1st round draft pick ace pitcher. But, they (last season's team) just weren't incredibly talented... by some people's measures that is!? This season had a ton of question marks coming in. And, for now most have been answered in the negative. Hard to believe OSU could actually lower their Pac12 BA vs Cal after 2 games!?
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Post by irimi on Mar 25, 2023 16:51:09 GMT -8
I'm hopeful now that Turley has gotten beyond his slump. He still has some bad looking strikeouts, but he'll learn.
Plus, we really do have a lot of talent on this team. What we lack is energy when we are down, and we are down early too often. Comebacks are mounted too late to come to fruition.
But the team is learning. We'll see. I'm expecting a lights out game tomorrow. So if we lose tomorrow, maybe we can start moaning some.
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Post by qbeaver on Mar 25, 2023 16:56:58 GMT -8
There is some talent on this team,but many of the talented kids are young. Turley,Talt,Kreig,Macias and others are young. I would be happy just to make the tournament. We lost a ton from last years team,and have several holes in our lineup. Shortstop,and right field when Turley was slumping. Need to get some of the youngsters more seasoned this year. Today we literally put minimal pressure on Cal. Too many balls taken on the plate on the black...ump was calling it a strike all day.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 25, 2023 17:46:32 GMT -8
Maybe you should just give up and stop following. There are a lot of games left. And, if you didn’t think this team was going to take a step back, your expectations were not realistic. We lost 5 starters in the the field, probably our best hitting OF ever and a 1st round draft pick ace pitcher. But, they (last season's team) just weren't incredibly talented... by some people's measures that is!? This season had a ton of question marks coming in. And, for now most have been answered in the negative. Hard to believe OSU could actually lower their Pac12 BA vs Cal after 2 games!? We were a very good college baseball team in 2022, with one first-round draft pick. Rutschman, Madrigal, Heimlich, Grenier, Larnach, Kwan and Rasmussen on the same team is an incredibly talented one, with five first-round draft picks and another who would have been a first-rounder if not for off-field issues.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 25, 2023 19:13:41 GMT -8
But, they (last season's team) just weren't incredibly talented... by some people's measures that is!? This season had a ton of question marks coming in. And, for now most have been answered in the negative. Hard to believe OSU could actually lower their Pac12 BA vs Cal after 2 games!? We were a very good college baseball team in 2022, with one first-round draft pick. Rutschman, Madrigal, Heimlich, Grenier, Larnach, Kwan and Rasmussen on the same team is an incredibly talented one, with five first-round draft picks and another who would have been a first-rounder if not for off-field issues. Yes, but we had a lot of players drafted after last season. We will have very few higher draft picks this year. There is a big drop off in talent from last season. Nobody was comparing last year to the 2017-2018 teams.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 25, 2023 19:28:49 GMT -8
We were a very good college baseball team in 2022, with one first-round draft pick. Rutschman, Madrigal, Heimlich, Grenier, Larnach, Kwan and Rasmussen on the same team is an incredibly talented one, with five first-round draft picks and another who would have been a first-rounder if not for off-field issues. Yes, but we had a lot of players drafted after last season. We will have very few higher draft picks this year. There is a big drop off in talent from last season. Nobody was comparing last year to the 2017-2018 teams. Assuming Ferrer, Lattery and Bazzana get back to form they are the only guys I see as likely drafts besides Brown. Forrester might have a shot if he has a good season. That bodes well for next year as we should have a pretty experienced roster. This team has plenty of talent that's learning quick.
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Post by irimi on Mar 25, 2023 19:37:03 GMT -8
Yes, but we had a lot of players drafted after last season. We will have very few higher draft picks this year. There is a big drop off in talent from last season. Nobody was comparing last year to the 2017-2018 teams. Assuming Ferrer, Lattery and Bazzana get back to form they are the only guys I see as likely drafts besides Brown. Forrester might have a shot if he has a good season. That bodes well for next year as we should have a pretty experienced roster. This team has plenty of talent that's learning quick. I don’t see Forrester showing much that would entice the pro scouts. I expected him to have developed more into a clutch hitter and he hasn’t.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 25, 2023 19:49:43 GMT -8
Assuming Ferrer, Lattery and Bazzana get back to form they are the only guys I see as likely drafts besides Brown. Forrester might have a shot if he has a good season. That bodes well for next year as we should have a pretty experienced roster. This team has plenty of talent that's learning quick. I don’t see Forrester showing much that would entice the pro scouts. I expected him to have developed more into a clutch hitter and he hasn’t. I wouldn't expect a high draft but draft seems likely. He gets on base.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 25, 2023 20:22:58 GMT -8
We were a very good college baseball team in 2022, with one first-round draft pick. Rutschman, Madrigal, Heimlich, Grenier, Larnach, Kwan and Rasmussen on the same team is an incredibly talented one, with five first-round draft picks and another who would have been a first-rounder if not for off-field issues. Yes, but we had a lot of players drafted after last season. We will have very few higher draft picks this year. There is a big drop off in talent from last season. Nobody was comparing last year to the 2017-2018 teams. Yes, we did lose a ton of players. There is a dropoff. No argument with you, Judge. As for comparing 2022 to 2017-18, Skullcap said Mitch had "incredible" players on the 2021 and 2022 teams. I simply called BS. We've all seen recently what "incredible talent" is. The 2021 or 2022 teams did not have "incredible" talent.
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Post by irimi on Mar 25, 2023 20:38:09 GMT -8
I don’t see Forrester showing much that would entice the pro scouts. I expected him to have developed more into a clutch hitter and he hasn’t. I wouldn't expect a high draft but draft seems likely. He gets on base. Oh, I agree. He’ll go somewhere. He certainly has potential. I thought we’d see more of it this year.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2023 20:51:15 GMT -8
I don’t see Forrester showing much that would entice the pro scouts. I expected him to have developed more into a clutch hitter and he hasn’t. I wouldn't expect a high draft but draft seems likely. He gets on base. Before this year, it was basically understood that he's a shoe-in to be drafted in the first 10 rounds. The fact that he has added doing a decent job at third has not hurt him. He also has shown a great eye, which those saber guys just eat up. OBP.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2023 21:05:20 GMT -8
Yes, but we had a lot of players drafted after last season. We will have very few higher draft picks this year. There is a big drop off in talent from last season. Nobody was comparing last year to the 2017-2018 teams. Yes, we did lose a ton of players. There is a dropoff. No argument with you, Judge. As for comparing 2022 to 2017-18, Skullcap said Mitch had "incredible" players on the 2021 and 2022 teams. I simply called BS. We've all seen recently what "incredible talent" is. The 2021 or 2022 teams did not have "incredible" talent. Hjerpe > Heimlich. Pfennigs > Fehm. 2018 had better top end talent, but Oregon State had three huge holes in the lineup for most of the year with Malone only coming on late. The 2022 outfield was better in total than the 2018 outfield. Forrester is better than Taylor, too. 2022 outclassed 2018 at half of the positions, had a better rotation for most of the year, and had a better closer. 2018 Oregon State did not have to face anyone of 2022 Auburn's caliber in the Super Regional. And Heimlich did not get sick, during the Super Regional. And 2022 still was only one bad pitch or one timely hit away from sweeping through Omaha. Oregon State's 2022 outfield was incredible, best outfield ever. As for the rest of the team, Hjerpe was incredible. Past that, some great players, but not incredible. 2022 is top two of most offensive categories with 2018 being the other one. 2018 and 2022 were incredible to all other Oregon State teams. If only one can be "incredible," then 2022 is "incredible light." The way that people crap on 2022 is really what I find to be "incredible."
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