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Post by ricke71 on May 26, 2022 16:13:36 GMT -8
If they could find a way to work it with the Mariners schedule, Seattle would be a good location - roof would guarantee no rainouts. Only thing is, I don't like giving the Doggies any home-field edge. But on the other hand, a lot more OSU fans could make it up there. I was thinking about your suggestion last night looking for a PAC 12 city that would not give any team the advantage. Boom work a deal with the Colorado Rockies. Denver has a beautiful downtown and other nearby attractions. I would be more likely to travel to Denver than LA, Seattle or the greater Phoenix area. That might even be what it took to turn the PAC-11 into the PAC-12, as maybe the Buffalos would consider fielding a team. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 26, 2022 16:40:17 GMT -8
So what, it's perfect this weekend. Weather changes.......... That was a rare storm. There are probably similar rare historical weather events you can find for every destination mentioned which would not be conducive to baseball games. If you ask anyone who has lived in Colorado for any length of time, May snowstorms are not that unusual. Pretty sure no one in Scottsdale can remember a May snowstorm. Or an April one, for that matter. Charlotte and Hoover can be almost as hot, and about 10 times as humid, as Scottsdale this time of year. It was pushing 100 in North Carolina last week. The best place would be Sunken Diamond. Great weather, cooler nights, excellent facility, always available, easy access from San Jose/SFO. But you can't give Stanford that much of a homefield advantage. Sunken Diamond seats 2000 plus the grass berm. One tiny concession. No chance |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 26, 2022 16:46:06 GMT -8
If you ask anyone who has lived in Colorado for any length of time, May snowstorms are not that unusual. Pretty sure no one in Scottsdale can remember a May snowstorm. Or an April one, for that matter. Charlotte and Hoover can be almost as hot, and about 10 times as humid, as Scottsdale this time of year. It was pushing 100 in North Carolina last week. The best place would be Sunken Diamond. Great weather, cooler nights, excellent facility, always available, easy access from San Jose/SFO. But you can't give Stanford that much of a homefield advantage. Sunken Diamond seats 2000 plus the grass berm. One tiny concession. No chance 2100 seats and the berm would be plenty. Max allowed is 4K, more than enough. Temporary concessions could be added. Those factors are not deal-breakers. Having a conference team host is the tournament is. |
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Post by Werebeaver on May 26, 2022 17:12:56 GMT -8
If they could find a way to work it with the Mariners schedule, Seattle would be a good location - roof would guarantee no rainouts. Only thing is, I don't like giving the Doggies any home-field edge. But on the other hand, a lot more OSU fans could make it up there. I was thinking about your suggestion last night looking for a PAC 12 city that would not give any team the advantage. Boom work a deal with the Colorado Rockies. Denver has a beautiful downtown and other nearby attractions. I would be more likely to travel to Denver than LA, Seattle or the greater Phoenix area. I ain't drivin' to Denver. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 26, 2022 17:16:39 GMT -8
Sunken Diamond seats 2000 plus the grass berm. One tiny concession. No chance 2100 seats and the berm would be plenty. Max allowed is 4K, more than enough. Temporary concessions could be added. Those factors are not deal-breakers. Having a conference team host is the tournament is. I think they should just have the champ host. They’re not relying on attendance to make $$. At least you would get the host team’s fans to show up. Except for Stanford. They don’t show up for any sport. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 26, 2022 17:26:29 GMT -8
2100 seats and the berm would be plenty. Max allowed is 4K, more than enough. Temporary concessions could be added. Those factors are not deal-breakers. Having a conference team host is the tournament is. I think they should just have the champ host. They’re not relying on attendance to make $$. At least you would get the host team’s fans to show up. Except for Stanford. They don’t show up for any sport. Furd and Cal's fields can't host a HS tourney. Extra concessions or not. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 26, 2022 17:29:23 GMT -8
I think they should just have the champ host. They’re not relying on attendance to make $$. At least you would get the host team’s fans to show up. Except for Stanford. They don’t show up for any sport. Furd and Cal's fields can't host a HS tourney. Extra concessions or not. Well, then say the host can arrange the field then. Plenty of minor league parks in the bay area. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 26, 2022 19:16:47 GMT -8
I think they should just have the champ host. They’re not relying on attendance to make $$. At least you would get the host team’s fans to show up. Except for Stanford. They don’t show up for any sport. Furd and Cal's fields can't host a HS tourney. Extra concessions or not. And yet the NCAA lets Stanford host a regional practically every year, and sometimes even a Super Regional. Guess the NCAA doesn't know that Palo Alto HS is probably available. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 26, 2022 19:21:01 GMT -8
Furd and Cal's fields can't host a HS tourney. Extra concessions or not. And yet the NCAA lets Stanford host a regional practically every year, and sometimes even a Super Regional. Guess the NCAA doesn't know that Palo Alto HS is probably available. What a douche. Hmmmm 8 teams vs 4. Teams in similar time zones vs potential across country. Baseball fan bases don't travel like say, football. Obviously you've never been to either field. Multiple porta potties prob your style too. |
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Post by bennysdentist on May 26, 2022 19:44:12 GMT -8
Hold the tourney at the Tonk. Very nice ballpark, major upgrades in the works also. The Hillsboro community would really get behind it. Nice warm mild weather. Plenty of capacity. Anybody talking about major league parks is delusional
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 26, 2022 21:01:09 GMT -8
And yet the NCAA lets Stanford host a regional practically every year, and sometimes even a Super Regional. Guess the NCAA doesn't know that Palo Alto HS is probably available. What a douche. Hmmmm 8 teams vs 4. Teams in similar time zones vs potential across country. Baseball fan bases don't travel like say, football. Obviously you've never been to either field. Multiple porta potties prob your style too. Been to both. I never, ever said Cal should hold the Pac-12 tournament. You said Stanford couldn't host a high school tournament. The NCAA disagrees, and has regularly awarded Stanford a regional over the past four decades. Saying Stanford couldn't host a HS tournament might be the stupidest thing you've ever said, under every possible alias, either baseballs6969, Scubaman, SeanSpicer or whatever name you're using this week. And there are never fans from eight teams on site at the same time. Maybe four. Usually only two. Fans generally leave the site when their team is done playing. Stanford could easily host it; crowds for this tournament have been about 200-300 at most, except for the OSU game, from what I've seen on TV. Been to every single regional ever held at OSU and there are never more than 400-500 fans in the stands when the Beavers aren't playing. Why would it be any different at Stanford for a Pac-12 tourney game between oregon and WSU? As far as porta potties go, there are about 14 men's stalls/urinals for 3,000 or so fans in the main grandstand at Goss (maybe 10 in the RR behind home plate, four in the RR behind first base). Maybe we should invest in some for home games too. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 27, 2022 9:57:51 GMT -8
So what, it's perfect this weekend. Weather changes.......... That was a rare storm. There are probably similar rare historical weather events you can find for every destination mentioned which would not be conducive to baseball games. If you ask anyone who has lived in Colorado for any length of time, May snowstorms are not that unusual. Pretty sure no one in Scottsdale can remember a May snowstorm. Or an April one, for that matter. Charlotte and Hoover can be almost as hot, and about 10 times as humid, as Scottsdale this time of year. It was pushing 100 in North Carolina last week. The best place would be Sunken Diamond. Great weather, cooler nights, excellent facility, always available, easy access from San Jose/SFO. But you can't give Stanford that much of a homefield advantage. I'm not sure sure what you are arguing. No baseball can be scheduled anywhere there is potential for weather to happen? Do you also think Omaha is an unacceptable location for the CWS? It would appear so based on your fear of potential weather rare weather events as it relates to Colorado Springs. . Omaha is known for severe thunderstorms in June, sometimes you get hail, maybe even inches in a short time to go with lightening, heavy rain and wind. The possibility for a tornado exists as well. If you followed OSAA heat index guidelines for P12 tournament, and I'm not proposing that by any means just pointing it out, the risk of missing games in Scottsdale due to weather is beyond possible and quite likely. Are you also aware of the potential for haboobs in Scottsdale this time of year? At end of the day. Colorado Springs has a nice ballpark which would suit the tournament needs well. Is in a P12 state, Is on the "road" to Omaha kind of. And was simply a suggested location to ad to the others in this thread. If you don't like it, fine just say so. No bid deal, but playing the weather card is unconvincing when it's absolutely gorgeous there today. 84 and sunny with a light breeze |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 27, 2022 10:04:57 GMT -8
If you ask anyone who has lived in Colorado for any length of time, May snowstorms are not that unusual. Pretty sure no one in Scottsdale can remember a May snowstorm. Or an April one, for that matter. Charlotte and Hoover can be almost as hot, and about 10 times as humid, as Scottsdale this time of year. It was pushing 100 in North Carolina last week. The best place would be Sunken Diamond. Great weather, cooler nights, excellent facility, always available, easy access from San Jose/SFO. But you can't give Stanford that much of a homefield advantage. I'm not sure sure what you are arguing. No baseball can be scheduled anywhere there is potential for weather to happen? Do you also think Omaha is an unacceptable location for the CWS? It would appear so based on your fear of potential weather rare weather events as it relates to Colorado Springs. . Omaha is known for severe thunderstorms in June, sometimes you get hail, maybe even inches in a short time to go with lightening, heavy rain and wind. The possibility for a tornado exists as well. If you followed OSAA heat index guidelines for P12 tournament, and I'm not proposing that by any means just pointing it out, the risk of missing games in Scottsdale due to weather is beyond possible and quite likely. Are you also aware of the potential for haboobs in Scottsdale this time of year? At end of the day. Colorado Springs has a nice ballpark which would suit the tournament needs well. Is in a P12 state, Is on the "road" to Omaha kind of. And was simply a suggested location to ad to the others in this thread. If you don't like it, fine just say so. No bid deal, but playing the weather card is unconvincing when it's absolutely gorgeous there today. 84 and sunny with a light breeze Nothing quite like a good set of haboobs. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 27, 2022 10:08:11 GMT -8
I'm not sure sure what you are arguing. No baseball can be scheduled anywhere there is potential for weather to happen? Do you also think Omaha is an unacceptable location for the CWS? It would appear so based on your fear of potential weather rare weather events as it relates to Colorado Springs. . Omaha is known for severe thunderstorms in June, sometimes you get hail, maybe even inches in a short time to go with lightening, heavy rain and wind. The possibility for a tornado exists as well. If you followed OSAA heat index guidelines for P12 tournament, and I'm not proposing that by any means just pointing it out, the risk of missing games in Scottsdale due to weather is beyond possible and quite likely. Are you also aware of the potential for haboobs in Scottsdale this time of year? At end of the day. Colorado Springs has a nice ballpark which would suit the tournament needs well. Is in a P12 state, Is on the "road" to Omaha kind of. And was simply a suggested location to ad to the others in this thread. If you don't like it, fine just say so. No bid deal, but playing the weather card is unconvincing when it's absolutely gorgeous there today. 84 and sunny with a light breeze Nothing quite like a good set of haboobs. I believe that would be getting to second base |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 27, 2022 12:01:07 GMT -8
If you ask anyone who has lived in Colorado for any length of time, May snowstorms are not that unusual. Pretty sure no one in Scottsdale can remember a May snowstorm. Or an April one, for that matter. Charlotte and Hoover can be almost as hot, and about 10 times as humid, as Scottsdale this time of year. It was pushing 100 in North Carolina last week. The best place would be Sunken Diamond. Great weather, cooler nights, excellent facility, always available, easy access from San Jose/SFO. But you can't give Stanford that much of a homefield advantage. I'm not sure sure what you are arguing. No baseball can be scheduled anywhere there is potential for weather to happen? Do you also think Omaha is an unacceptable location for the CWS? It would appear so based on your fear of potential weather rare weather events as it relates to Colorado Springs. . Omaha is known for severe thunderstorms in June, sometimes you get hail, maybe even inches in a short time to go with lightening, heavy rain and wind. The possibility for a tornado exists as well. If you followed OSAA heat index guidelines for P12 tournament, and I'm not proposing that by any means just pointing it out, the risk of missing games in Scottsdale due to weather is beyond possible and quite likely. Are you also aware of the potential for haboobs in Scottsdale this time of year? At end of the day. Colorado Springs has a nice ballpark which would suit the tournament needs well. Is in a P12 state, Is on the "road" to Omaha kind of. And was simply a suggested location to ad to the others in this thread. If you don't like it, fine just say so. No bid deal, but playing the weather card is unconvincing when it's absolutely gorgeous there today. 84 and sunny with a light breeze My point is, if you want to virtually GUARANTEE the games will be played, in a Pac-12 market, then Scottsdale/Phoenix metro is probably the best choice. Yes, it will be hot. It's Arizona, and the millions who live in the Valley of the Sun deal with it daily. But it almost certainly won't rain, or snow, which it did last weekend in Springs. And there's a much better chance the wind won't be blowing at 20-30 MPH, which isn't unusual at all in the Flatirons. As I said, IMHO Sunken Diamond is the best place. But apparently it won't work, because the smart folks at Stanford University can't even run a high school tournament. |
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