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Post by willtalk on Jul 6, 2019 7:41:24 GMT -8
I think the player who will have the greatest impact on Oregon should be Moore. She is a player who has always impressed me. I thought she was much better than her more touted McD AA big sister. I always felt there would be a big drop off at the second guard position once Cazorla graduated. She is getting more and more playing time on her WNBA team. She sort of was lost in Sabrina's shadow with people not realizing just how good she was. Moore will fill that void. While not as good of an outside shooter, she is quicker and a better Perimeter defender which the team has not had in memory. All Prince will do if she is eligible this season is just added depth to the post position. Oregon was already strong in the post this coming season.
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Post by aicandme on Jul 6, 2019 10:27:18 GMT -8
"Isn't this somewhat of a good thing as now they don't have space for Clark or HVL?" No, it isn't..... No way, no way whatsoever is this a good thing....She's a player and she's got a bunch of really good ones to play with.... I should have said that the silver lining in this is the possibility that they're full on scholarships. My fault for not properly communicating what I was thinking 🤦🏽♂️ Appreciate the insight. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jul 6, 2019 11:21:30 GMT -8
I should have said that the silver lining in this is the possibility that they're full on scholarships. My fault for not properly communicating what I was thinking 🤦🏽♂️ Appreciate the insight. Still ..... no. They'd just send 1-2 more packing (to make more room). Most people think HVL to Baylor and Clark to ND. Guess we'll just have to sit back and wait here. |
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Post by 411500 on Jul 6, 2019 12:02:07 GMT -8
beaverwbb fan always has better info on recruiting matters than I do (or most people on this board). I hadn't read much about HVL to Baylor but it is clear that Baylor really wants her...Cashmere to Baylor seems a bit much but she travels all over the world now as it is so maybe Waco ain't so wacky...Her family would miss out on a lot of home games if she lands in Texas.....Corvallis is very do-able 4 or 5 times a year if they truly wanted it that way...
Last we heard was that HVL is scheduled for an OV in Corvallis in September....Not sure if that has been confirmed, but if it is, she obviously is still in play....
I have read nothing anywhere to make me think the Beavs are #1, or even #2, in the running for CC....Most writers who write about these things have pencilled in ND as the likely destination for CC, and that seems sensible from the outside looking in. Midwest girl, Catholic high school, great program at ND.
If Rueck spirits her away I think it will be far and away his biggest recruiting coup since arriving at OSU....
That leaves us with renewed excitement about Dalaylah(sp) Daniels out of Seattle....She and her family have been tight to the vest about her recruitment...
Common sense suggests UW for her - fellow teammate already there; energetic young female coach; program on the rise; near home; near parents....So Coach probably will have his hands full with a Corvallis sale here...Someone reported that she and Taya know one another so maybe that's a plus...The Beavs have done well recruiting Seattle suburbs, but draw blanks with the City high schools....
That's about it....July is a tough month in basketball....Lots of mystery, little certainty. Lots of choices, few decisions. Schedules aren't out, players aren't in....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by willtalk on Jul 6, 2019 12:22:38 GMT -8
Most people think HVL to Baylor and Clark to ND. Guess we'll just have to sit back and wait here. I wouldn't bet the farm on either of those and until OSU is flatly eliminated from consideration there's still a shot for either/both (to OSU). Less likely (but still possible) is either to the $uck$. Most people thought that Prince would Go to either Uconn or ND. Most thought after she didn't commit to Uconn right after her visit she would commit to ND. People don't really know who is going to where. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jul 6, 2019 12:26:26 GMT -8
I could be wrong, but as far as I know Daniels isn't closely considering UW. Not aware of her teammate already being there. Could you be thinking of JaQuaya Miller and Jordyn Jenkins from Kentridge HS? Miller is an incoming Fr. already on campus and Jenkins is a '20 recruit. Coach Wynn might be young and energetic but it remains to be seen if the program is actually on the rise. This year is critically important I think; there either needs to be significant improvement or it might be time to start looking at another option already. They've only won 3 conference games during the regular season in Wynn's 2 years. Also they've historically had very little success recruiting players from the inner city area high schools, dating back at least thru June Daugherty's tenure. That's 5 different coaches now and the problem persists. Maybe if McGuff had stayed longer he could've reversed the trend but that's well in the rear view mirror.
Not sure when it became considered that HVL was favoring Baylor. I know some of their fans are claiming that, but haven't seen it substantiated anywhere. And their claim is based on nothing really. Because she is keeping quiet about her recruiting and they say that's typical of Baylor recruits. She was allegedly a UConn lean for the longest time, until they loaded up on '19 and '20 guards and don't seem to have a place for her anymore.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jul 6, 2019 12:32:40 GMT -8
Tangentially, I know everybody around here is supposed to hate Oregon. I have to say I'd much rather see them win a Championship than UConn again, or Notre Dame, Baylor, South Carolina, Mississippi St., Tennessee if they can ever get out of their own way, or anybody else from east of the Mississippi. Nobody from out West has cut down the nets since Stanford in '92. That's getting ridiculous at this point. There have been a bunch of Final 4 teams and a few runner ups, but nothing takes the place of a Championship. I'd root for anybody from the Pac 12 if they get in the Title Game, don't care who it is.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jul 6, 2019 13:31:01 GMT -8
I could be wrong, but as far as I know Daniels isn't closely considering UW. Not aware of her teammate already being there. Could you be thinking of JaQuaya Miller and Jordyn Jenkins from Kentridge HS? Miller is an incoming Fr. already on campus and Jenkins is a '20 recruit. Coach Wynn might be young and energetic but it remains to be seen if the program is actually on the rise. This year is critically important I think; there either needs to be significant improvement or it might be time to start looking at another option already. They've only won 3 conference games during the regular season in Wynn's 2 years. Also they've historically had very little success recruiting players from the inner city area high schools, dating back at least thru June Daugherty's tenure. That's 5 different coaches now and the problem persists. Maybe if McGuff had stayed longer he could've reversed the trend but that's well in the rear view mirror. Not sure when it became considered that HVL was favoring Baylor. I know some of their fans are claiming that, but haven't seen it substantiated anywhere. And their claim is based on nothing really. Because she is keeping quiet about her recruiting and they say that's typical of Baylor recruits. She was allegedly a UConn lean for the longest time, until they loaded up on '19 and '20 guards and don't seem to have a place for her anymore. She is definitely considering Baylor. HVL took an unofficial there in the fall, the entire Baylor staff made a trip to Cashmere this season, and they just sent coaches to Colorado Springs (U19 training camp where HVL is 1 of 2 uncommitted players -- the other is Clark). I'm not sure really anyone can say she is favoring anywhere. OSU WBB news tends to fly way under the radar + HVL has been very hush hush in regards to her recruitment, so unless someone has an insider, not sure how they know where she is favoring. Watched some of Daniels' Tree of Hope game today on BallerTV, and I really like her game. She is very active defensively and really mobile and athletic for a 6'4" player. Multipositional. |
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Post by bvrbooster on Jul 6, 2019 13:34:12 GMT -8
Why would we refer to Washington as a program on the rise? They have not signed a top 100 player since Aarion McDonald in 2016, and she transferred out. Home attendance is down more than 50% since Plum's senior year, and they were 10th in conference in that area last year.
Unless she grew up dreaming of being a Husky, I can't imagine why Daniels would want to go there. The best that program can hope for over the next few years is middle of the pack in the PAC.
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Post by 411500 on Jul 6, 2019 13:58:18 GMT -8
"Why would we refer to Washington as a program on the rise?"
They beat OSU in the Pac-12 Tourney...."On the rise..." is more hopeful than expectational from the UW point of view....
I agree their win-loss record doesn't warrant confidence that they will rise to the top 6 in the Pac next year...So your point is well taken...
But from a coach on the recruiting trail "We finished strong, beat OSU in the tourney, and we're getting better..." is the story she's selling....
That's kinda what I was getting at....Plus I'm higher on their coach than most...
I like her pressure game. When she gets some players UW can rightfully expect to be on the rise...
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by 411500 on Jul 6, 2019 14:26:37 GMT -8
beaverfever - - I found your put down of nwhoopfan's post gross and sophomoric...
Not everyone traffics in opponent hatred. Many don't want to, many don't need to.
I took my son and his wife to the Oregon-Mississippi State regional and we all cheered for a Duck victory.....That in no way detracts from my love of the Beavers.
Nobody from Rebounders Row asked me to turn in my court side seat; no one from the OSU Foundation asked me to quit contributing. Give it a rest.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by flyinsouth on Jul 6, 2019 15:16:03 GMT -8
I think if HVL doesn’t choose OSU, the fan base shoot root like heck she chooses Baylor. That has the highest potential for Homesickness and her not jiving with their coach. At least that gets her out of the PAC and sets up a potential transfer back near home situation, ala Slocum, a year or two down the line. Transfers are increasing and becoming a second and almost more important recruiting season! Wish her well is she doesn’t initially pick Corvallis, you might just end up with a second sweeter bite of the apple the next time around!
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jul 6, 2019 16:03:42 GMT -8
She is definitely considering Baylor. HVL took an unofficial there in the fall, the entire Baylor staff made a trip to Cashmere this season, and they just sent coaches to Colorado Springs (U19 training camp where HVL is 1 of 2 uncommitted players -- the other is Clark). I'm not sure really anyone can say she is favoring anywhere. OSU WBB news tends to fly way under the radar + HVL has been very hush hush in regards to her recruitment, so unless someone has an insider, not sure how they know where she is favoring. Watched some of Daniels' Tree of Hope game today on BallerTV, and I really like her game. She is very active defensively and really mobile and athletic for a 6'4" player. Multipositional. Oh yeah, I know Baylor is after her, not disputing that at all. They've sent staff to Yakima for the smaller school State Playoffs as well. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jul 6, 2019 16:11:10 GMT -8
She is definitely considering Baylor. HVL took an unofficial there in the fall, the entire Baylor staff made a trip to Cashmere this season, and they just sent coaches to Colorado Springs (U19 training camp where HVL is 1 of 2 uncommitted players -- the other is Clark). I'm not sure really anyone can say she is favoring anywhere. OSU WBB news tends to fly way under the radar + HVL has been very hush hush in regards to her recruitment, so unless someone has an insider, not sure how they know where she is favoring. Watched some of Daniels' Tree of Hope game today on BallerTV, and I really like her game. She is very active defensively and really mobile and athletic for a 6'4" player. Multipositional. Oh yeah, I know Baylor is after her, not disputing that at all. They've sent staff to Yakima for the smaller school State Playoffs as well. I think people get caught up in seeing that type of stuff and think that makes a player a "lean" |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jul 6, 2019 16:21:17 GMT -8
But from a coach on the recruiting trail "We finished strong, beat OSU in the tourney, and we're getting better..." is the story she's selling.... That's kinda what I was getting at....Plus I'm higher on their coach than most... I like her pressure game. When she gets some players UW can rightfully expect to be on the rise... GO BEAVS !! There have been flashes the last 2 seasons. Somehow they play tough in Corvallis and Eugene, but get stomped at home by both of the Oregon schools. They've hung in there against Stanford a couple times, nearly beat Cal in the conference tourney 2 years ago, but in the end there just aren't many W's. Moral victories don't count for much. If it weren't for the 2 wins this year in Vegas I would've actually said they went backward in year 2. The first year she didn't have enough healthy bodies by the end of the year to play pressure defense, year 2 there weren't really enough Pac 12 caliber players to go 10 deep and constantly rotate players, although she kinda tried it anyway. Gotta hope the underclassmen make significant contributions this coming year, because among the upperclassmen there isn't much other than Melgoza and Peterson.
That last part "when she gets some players" seems more of an if than when type of thing. Not a given. Gotta up the talent level significantly before they can really start moving up in the conference. Only 1 commit for '20 so far, and no info out there as far as I know about who else they might be bringing in.
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