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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jun 27, 2019 12:13:20 GMT -8
At the end of the day, if Phil Knight's money went to a different university (as T. Boone Picken's did to Oklahoma State, for example), there wouldn't be this constant sour grapes attitude about it. But Oregon is where he went and, therefore, where his money goes, and that's just the way of it. Would you have the Athletic Department tell him, "That's very kind of you, Mr. Knight, but we feel it only fair to keep our facilities at a mid-range level, and hope we can attract top talent anyway." Would you want the OSU Athletic Department to do that if, say, Jeff Bezos' kids enrolled here and he started taking a big interest in OSU? As long as Oregon isn't cheating, they're just playing the hand they're dealt, same as we are, same as the Standord Athletic Department takes advantage of the school's stellar academic reputation. Let's just continue to beat them on the court, and let the rest take care of itself - pretty much what Pat Casey's baseball program did with George Horton's baseball program. Why does Knight give so much money to Stanford. Did his wife go there? That is where he received his mba from. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 27, 2019 12:17:38 GMT -8
Prince has narrowed it down to Oregon, Notre Dame, and UConn.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 27, 2019 14:28:42 GMT -8
As long as Oregon isn't cheating, they're just playing the hand they're dealt, same as we are, same as the Standord Athletic Department takes advantage of the school's stellar academic reputation.
Oregon has been on NCAA probation three times in this century alone for serious NCAA violations related to recruiting, illegal off-season practices, etc. So they are cheating. We have not been on NCAA probation; neither has Stanford. So all three parties are not playing with an equal deck of cards, so to speak.
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Post by beaversrock on Jun 27, 2019 14:36:24 GMT -8
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Post by newduke2 on Jun 27, 2019 14:49:03 GMT -8
Prince has narrowed it down to Oregon, Notre Dame, and UConn. Well, as far as most folks appear to "know", the Ducks are still recruiting Hailey Van Lith, Caitlin Clark and Lauren Ware for the same single 2020 scholarship Oregon has left. That's 4 gals for one spot. It will be interesting to see which of the four jumps first. I hope it's Prince or Ware, thereby shutting the door at Oregon and still leaving Van Lith and/or Clark as possibilities for OSU. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 27, 2019 15:09:30 GMT -8
Prince has narrowed it down to Oregon, Notre Dame, and UConn. Well, as far as most folks appear to "know", the Ducks are still recruiting Hailey Van Lith, Caitlin Clark and Lauren Ware for the same single 2020 scholarship Oregon has left. That's 4 gals for one spot. It will be interesting to see which of the four jumps first. I hope it's Prince or Ware, thereby shutting the door at Oregon and still leaving Van Lith and/or Clark as possibilities for OSU. Also the possibility of Giomi and/or Yaeget not returning for their fifth year. If Graves is already sure of that, that opens up additional scholarships too. Dalayah Daniels is another one it could help open up. She has been so quiet! |
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Post by newduke2 on Jun 27, 2019 15:32:23 GMT -8
Well, as far as most folks appear to "know", the Ducks are still recruiting Hailey Van Lith, Caitlin Clark and Lauren Ware for the same single 2020 scholarship Oregon has left. That's 4 gals for one spot. It will be interesting to see which of the four jumps first. I hope it's Prince or Ware, thereby shutting the door at Oregon and still leaving Van Lith and/or Clark as possibilities for OSU. Also the possibility of Giomi and/or Yaeget not returning for their fifth year. If Graves is already sure of that, that opens up additional scholarships too. Dalayah Daniels is another one it could help open up. She has been so quiet! Yaeger and/or Giomi leaving "early" (or transferring) thereby opening up yet more 2020 scholarships for Oregon? And Oregon taking 6, 7 or even 8 NEW scholarship players all in one year? I'll believe it when I see it. |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Jun 27, 2019 15:53:57 GMT -8
Oregon probably wants one more big. However, if Clark wants to come IMO she appears to be the kind of player you don't turn down. I think she will be a 4 year starter wherever she ends up. Would love to see her in a Beaver uniform, she would probably be the best WBB recruit at OSU of recent years, at least that I can remember?
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Post by bvrbooster on Jun 27, 2019 15:55:37 GMT -8
I believe they took 7 four years ago.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Jun 27, 2019 16:02:52 GMT -8
I had forgotten about that. For me personally breaking NCAA rules does not bother me much as the NCAA has been a corrupt self serving organization for along time. It will be interesting to see what happens in California where it looks like they may give athletes the right to financially benefit from their name and likeness. It may force the NCAAs hand to cave on the whole "amateurism" model. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 27, 2019 16:13:05 GMT -8
I believe they took 7 four years ago. Correct. McGwire, Woods, and Campisano all left, while Hebard, Ionescu, Giomi, and Yaeger all stayed. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 27, 2019 16:14:35 GMT -8
Katie just began following Sedona on instagram. Darn  . |
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Post by newduke2 on Jun 27, 2019 16:19:18 GMT -8
I believe they took 7 four years ago. Yes, Oregon did take 7 players in 2016, and three of them left pretty early (Campisano, McGwire, Woods). Therefore, even before the 2018 season the net was only 4 players...Ionescu, Hebard, Yeager, and Giomi. So, IMO it's arguable taking 7 players in one season did them much good. Rinse repeat in 2020? Why flirt again with 7 when the chances are high several will again leave very early anyway? I had remembered only 6 new players for Oregon 4 years ago, not 7. So, in one sense my earlier post is in error, but in another sense the end result of early departures after taking 7 players at once supports why I question the wisdom of it. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 27, 2019 16:25:44 GMT -8
Got anything that's not almost 40 years old? Players selling complementary shoes is quite different than a school paying a street agent to deliver recruits, or illegal practices, or forging LOIs, no? |
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Post by sparty on Jun 27, 2019 16:35:08 GMT -8
As long as Oregon isn't cheating, they're just playing the hand they're dealt, same as we are, same as the Standord Athletic Department takes advantage of the school's stellar academic reputation.
Oregon has been on NCAA probation three times in this century alone for serious NCAA violations related to recruiting, illegal off-season practices, etc. So they are cheating. We have not been on NCAA probation; neither has Stanford. So all three parties are not playing with an equal deck of cards, so to speak. Stanford first major violations in 2016 for football and softball.
The Stanford softball coach actually got fired over major violations a few years back.
"Softball Coach John Rittman was asked to resign and his assistants were not brought back after those violations were discovered."
Then there is funneling money to Stanford athletics,
Prosecutors say Stanford sailing coach agreed to accept $610,000 in bribes from Singer in exchange for designating certain well-connected applicants as recruits for Stanford’s sailing team. The coach did not pocket the money personally, prosecutors say, but funneled it to the Stanford sailing program.
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