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Post by fridaynightlights on Jun 26, 2019 13:36:16 GMT -8
1111 how dare you have a healthy perspective  I think as a fan base we spend far too much time fixating on uo, I admit I am guilty of this at times as well. If were not little brother then we should stop acting like one. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jun 26, 2019 13:43:16 GMT -8
Furthermore, I think the largest difference was the fact that we didn't have a proven post player. It is rare that we have a starter averaging less than 20 MPG like we had in Maddie. That skews the results a lot. That's a good point. Grymek started a handful of games in place of Washington, and Thropay had a start or two early in the season. There was even at least 1 game w/ a 4 guard lineup and Corosdale. So for accuracy I think you'd have to say Washington was a part time starter.
edited--okay I got curious and had to look it up. Washington had 19 starts in 32 games, Grymek 8 starts in 34 games, Thropay 4 starts in 16 games. So there were 3 games where none of them was a starter.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 26, 2019 13:48:31 GMT -8
Furthermore, I think the largest difference was the fact that we didn't have a proven post player. It is rare that we have a starter averaging less than 20 MPG like we had in Maddie. That skews the results a lot. That's a good point. Grymek started a handful of games in place of Washington, and Thropay had a start or two early in the season. There was even at least 1 game w/ a 4 guard lineup and Corosdale. So for accuracy I think you'd have to say Washington was a part time starter. Exactly, if we had a starting post, playing anywhere from 27-33 MPG, it would look very different. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jun 26, 2019 13:52:05 GMT -8
Interestingly Grymek averaged more minutes per game than Washington did (19.7 vs. 16.3).
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Post by shelby on Jun 26, 2019 15:05:44 GMT -8
I don’t care what anyone else says or their attempts to take the high ground. If the ducks did not have Phil knight money, there is NO WAY they could recruit the way they do.
Scott Rueck has built the women’s program, brick by brick and the sucks just tap off of big daddy to get the facilities and swag that draw a certain kind of athlete.
Graves wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t an EASY job. He did not want to leave Gonzaga - but - after all the other suck failures - they landed him.
Okay, he has done a good job - but has gotten no higher than OSU ( and we did it first ).
Put Rueck at uo and you see better results- because it is a turn key situation. Not so at OSU, and I absolutely love bashing the ducks..... and I will continue to do so. Their programs are still under the watchful eye of the toothless NCAA and the FBI, Everything they do is in the grey area, or worse... And they, and their coaches and their fans, and their flunky Oregonian honks do everything they can, on an hourly basis to attack OSU, minimize their accomplishments and recruits and go after our target recruits.
They are the epitome of poor sports - in everything.
You have the freedom to go on about how much more open minded you are ..
But frankly, I think you are closet suck fans.
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Post by sparty on Jun 26, 2019 16:58:03 GMT -8
I don’t care what anyone else says or their attempts to take the high ground. If the ducks did not have Phil knight money, there is NO WAY they could recruit the way they do. Scott Rueck has built the women’s program, brick by brick and the sucks just tap off of big daddy to get the facilities and swag that draw a certain kind of athlete. Graves wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t an EASY job. He did not want to leave Gonzaga - but - after all the other suck failures - they landed him. Okay, he has done a good job - but has gotten no higher than OSU ( and we did it first ). Put Rueck at uo and you see better results- because it is a turn key situation. Not so at OSU, and I absolutely love bashing the ducks..... and I will continue to do so. Their programs are still under the watchful eye of the toothless NCAA and the FBI, Everything they do is in the grey area, or worse... And they, and their coaches and their fans, and their flunky Oregonian honks do everything they can, on an hourly basis to attack OSU, minimize their accomplishments and recruits and go after our target recruits. They are the epitome of poor sports - in everything. You have the freedom to go on about how much more open minded you are .. But frankly, I think you are closet suck fans. Don't start with Oregonlive the all positive Uck voice. How does one get around the media? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 26, 2019 21:50:35 GMT -8
I don’t care what anyone else says or their attempts to take the high ground. If the ducks did not have Phil knight money, there is NO WAY they could recruit the way they do. Scott Rueck has built the women’s program, brick by brick and the sucks just tap off of big daddy to get the facilities and swag that draw a certain kind of athlete. Graves wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t an EASY job. He did not want to leave Gonzaga - but - after all the other suck failures - they landed him. Okay, he has done a good job - but has gotten no higher than OSU ( and we did it first ). Put Rueck at uo and you see better results- because it is a turn key situation. Not so at OSU, and I absolutely love bashing the ducks..... and I will continue to do so. Their programs are still under the watchful eye of the toothless NCAA and the FBI, Everything they do is in the grey area, or worse... And they, and their coaches and their fans, and their flunky Oregonian honks do everything they can, on an hourly basis to attack OSU, minimize their accomplishments and recruits and go after our target recruits. They are the epitome of poor sports - in everything. You have the freedom to go on about how much more open minded you are .. But frankly, I think you are closet suck fans. Yeah... that's it! At least you're not in the "closet". Your mentality is there for all to witness. I hope most of it is alcohol induced!?🤯 |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Jun 27, 2019 1:27:25 GMT -8
If vitriol, anger and bitterness towards the opposition is how fandom is measured then you beat me hands down.
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Post by shelby on Jun 27, 2019 6:52:56 GMT -8
Great - that is how I roll. Just ignore me and let me vent whenever I spot more of the duck attempts to downgrade everything about OSU - to make themselves feel better and to sell more Donald Duck gear for their ‘owner’.
I am allowed to have an opinion just as the rest of the people that post here.
One mantra that I have firmly attached my beliefs to, is
“ when everyone in the conversation is saying the same thing, and nodding in agreement, there is zero ‘thinking’ going on’
Also - ‘just because you are standing in a garage, that does not make you a mechanic ‘
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 27, 2019 7:29:36 GMT -8
Great - that is how I roll. Just ignore me and let me vent whenever I spot more of the duck attempts to downgrade everything about OSU - to make themselves feel better and to sell more Donald Duck gear for their ‘owner’. I am allowed to have an opinion just as the rest of the people that post here. One mantra that I have firmly attached my beliefs to, is “ when everyone in the conversation is saying the same thing, and nodding in agreement, there is zero ‘thinking’ going on’ Also - ‘just because you are standing in a garage, that does not make you a mechanic ‘ Of course... "Better to be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt". 🍻 |
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Post by green85 on Jun 27, 2019 7:59:04 GMT -8
I don’t care what anyone else says or their attempts to take the high ground. If the ducks did not have Phil knight money, there is NO WAY they could recruit the way they do. Scott Rueck has built the women’s program, brick by brick and the sucks just tap off of big daddy to get the facilities and swag that draw a certain kind of athlete. Graves wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t an EASY job. He did not want to leave Gonzaga - but - after all the other suck failures - they landed him. Okay, he has done a good job - but has gotten no higher than OSU ( and we did it first ). Put Rueck at uo and you see better results- because it is a turn key situation. Not so at OSU, and I absolutely love bashing the ducks..... and I will continue to do so. Their programs are still under the watchful eye of the toothless NCAA and the FBI, Everything they do is in the grey area, or worse... And they, and their coaches and their fans, and their flunky Oregonian honks do everything they can, on an hourly basis to attack OSU, minimize their accomplishments and recruits and go after our target recruits. They are the epitome of poor sports - in everything. You have the freedom to go on about how much more open minded you are .. But frankly, I think you are closet suck fans. Do you have any respect for what the players accomplish in any sport at Oregon? I get you don't like how much money has been donated to Oregon Athletics. And I get that you think that makes everything "easy" for UO athletic programs. But the student-athletes still have to perform in competition ... is there something to find positive in that? I am one Duck that thinks the OSU Baseball Program is great for the entire state. Winning national championships in any sport is a great accomplishment. Baseball takes a combination of great coaching and great execution by the players to win ... especially in the tournament format of the CWS. I also have followed the OSU women's basketball program. And your assessment of what Scott Rueck has done is accurate. But he wouldn't have those incredible stats without great players willing to work hard to get better and execute on the floor. |
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Post by shelby on Jun 27, 2019 9:06:37 GMT -8
Fire away - I appreciate all of the support.
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Post by beav74 on Jun 27, 2019 10:40:40 GMT -8
And after we beat them 2 out 3 in Eugene.....walking out of PK Park (built with donation money over night) one Duck fan in a conversation said "well....it's good they're good in something!" That is the typical Oregon fan! Oregon wouldn't have a baseball program if it wasn't for Oregon State!
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Post by bvrbooster on Jun 27, 2019 11:12:24 GMT -8
At the end of the day, if Phil Knight's money went to a different university (as T. Boone Picken's did to Oklahoma State, for example), there wouldn't be this constant sour grapes attitude about it. But Oregon is where he went and, therefore, where his money goes, and that's just the way of it.
Would you have the Athletic Department tell him, "That's very kind of you, Mr. Knight, but we feel it only fair to keep our facilities at a mid-range level, and hope we can attract top talent anyway." Would you want the OSU Athletic Department to do that if, say, Jeff Bezos' kids enrolled here and he started taking a big interest in OSU?
As long as Oregon isn't cheating, they're just playing the hand they're dealt, same as we are, same as the Standord Athletic Department takes advantage of the school's stellar academic reputation.
Let's just continue to beat them on the court, and let the rest take care of itself - pretty much what Pat Casey's baseball program did with George Horton's baseball program.
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Post by sparty on Jun 27, 2019 11:51:47 GMT -8
At the end of the day, if Phil Knight's money went to a different university (as T. Boone Picken's did to Oklahoma State, for example), there wouldn't be this constant sour grapes attitude about it. But Oregon is where he went and, therefore, where his money goes, and that's just the way of it. Would you have the Athletic Department tell him, "That's very kind of you, Mr. Knight, but we feel it only fair to keep our facilities at a mid-range level, and hope we can attract top talent anyway." Would you want the OSU Athletic Department to do that if, say, Jeff Bezos' kids enrolled here and he started taking a big interest in OSU? As long as Oregon isn't cheating, they're just playing the hand they're dealt, same as we are, same as the Standord Athletic Department takes advantage of the school's stellar academic reputation. Let's just continue to beat them on the court, and let the rest take care of itself - pretty much what Pat Casey's baseball program did with George Horton's baseball program. Why does Knight give so much money to Stanford. Did his wife go there? |
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I think as a fan base we spend far too much time fixating on uo, I admit I am guilty of this at times as well. If were not little brother then we should stop acting like one. 
