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Post by rmancarl on Apr 26, 2022 19:11:15 GMT -8
Kylee Watson to Notre Dame. That should be a good fit for her.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Apr 26, 2022 19:12:38 GMT -8
With Pinzan, Van Gytenbeek, Visscher, Martin, Maxwell, and others off the board -- it's definitely not looking super bright.
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Post by sparty on Apr 26, 2022 19:18:16 GMT -8
It appears to me that Coach Rueck is going to have to figure out a different approach if OSU is to be able to reach PAC 12 Championship level again. His (and his coaching staff) talent to find somewhat under the radar recruits and then develop them with a system of individual improvement, team chemistry, and long term development appears to be floundering badly under the current portal/payments to players for advertising,etc./grad transfers and various other factors. Am I seeing this all wrong, or is likely our best finish next year would be lower middle of the PAC 12? Start getting worried if nothing big falls after mid May. I am guessing a fifth or sixth place finish next year is realisitc at this point with the damage done. Still about two years out from making a real move up. If we only could have kept Taylors dad from hitting the parent portal.
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Post by bvrbooster on Apr 26, 2022 19:24:00 GMT -8
It appears to me that Coach Rueck is going to have to figure out a different approach if OSU is to be able to reach PAC 12 Championship level again. His (and his coaching staff) talent to find somewhat under the radar recruits and then develop them with a system of individual improvement, team chemistry, and long term development appears to be floundering badly under the current portal/payments to players for advertising,etc./grad transfers and various other factors. Am I seeing this all wrong, or is likely our best finish next year would be lower middle of the PAC 12? I think it might be a good idea to wait until we see what our team will be, and what the other conference teams will be, before we relegate our team to mediocrity. And, even then, it might be best to see how they actually play, especially the freshmen, before making a determination. I remember a few years ago we started 2 freshman bigs (can't remember their names), and that team did pretty good for a long while.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Apr 26, 2022 19:24:18 GMT -8
At what point in time will most of the top transfers be off the market? I am guessing in the next 2 or 3 weeks? Just curious at what point in time should we be concerned that we have not gotten the transfers we need for next season. Also are transfers limited to 5 official visits like HS recruits?
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 26, 2022 19:42:18 GMT -8
It appears to me that Coach Rueck is going to have to figure out a different approach if OSU is to be able to reach PAC 12 Championship level again. His (and his coaching staff) talent to find somewhat under the radar recruits and then develop them with a system of individual improvement, team chemistry, and long term development appears to be floundering badly under the current portal/payments to players for advertising,etc./grad transfers and various other factors. Am I seeing this all wrong, or is likely our best finish next year would be lower middle of the PAC 12? It's every fan's right to get worked up over offseason "harbingers of doom". So..go for it.
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Post by qbeaver on Apr 26, 2022 20:24:25 GMT -8
It appears to me that Coach Rueck is going to have to figure out a different approach if OSU is to be able to reach PAC 12 Championship level again. His (and his coaching staff) talent to find somewhat under the radar recruits and then develop them with a system of individual improvement, team chemistry, and long term development appears to be floundering badly under the current portal/payments to players for advertising,etc./grad transfers and various other factors. Am I seeing this all wrong, or is likely our best finish next year would be lower middle of the PAC 12? Find under the radar recruits? The girls that are transferring out are 4 and 5 star recruits. It's a matter of finding the right players...not just highly recruited ones. If we finished 4th or 5th in the PAC-12,that still might be a top 25 finish. Stanford,Ucla,Arizona and the uo are all top 25 teams year in year out. Just make the big dance and anything can happen
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Post by sparty on Apr 27, 2022 5:55:34 GMT -8
At what point in time will most of the top transfers be off the market? I am guessing in the next 2 or 3 weeks? Just curious at what point in time should we be concerned that we have not gotten the transfers we need for next season. Also are transfers limited to 5 official visits like HS recruits? The next two weeks tells the story. Right now everyone is fishing and I think things will happen quickly and everyone has their A, B and C lists. Mid May will tell us a lot of who wins and loses in the P-12 portal shuffle
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Post by sparty on Apr 27, 2022 5:59:30 GMT -8
It appears to me that Coach Rueck is going to have to figure out a different approach if OSU is to be able to reach PAC 12 Championship level again. His (and his coaching staff) talent to find somewhat under the radar recruits and then develop them with a system of individual improvement, team chemistry, and long term development appears to be floundering badly under the current portal/payments to players for advertising,etc./grad transfers and various other factors. Am I seeing this all wrong, or is likely our best finish next year would be lower middle of the PAC 12? It's every fan's right to get worked up over offseason "harbingers of doom". So..go for it. But those harbingers of doom seem to cancel out those that think one or two transfers is going to lead to a Pac-12 championship next year. Nothing wrong with those thinking Scott can put together a contender but expectations should be measured. I like your optimism though so you should go for it too.
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Post by qbeaver on Apr 27, 2022 6:28:52 GMT -8
It's every fan's right to get worked up over offseason "harbingers of doom". So..go for it. But those harbingers of doom seem to cancel out those that think one or two transfers is going to lead to a Pac-12 championship next year. Nothing wrong with those thinking Scott can put together a contender but expectations should be measured. I like your optimism though so you should go for it too. I'm not expecting osu to have a title contender,but I think with a couple more additions,osu can be a tournament team and be competive against most of this conference. Stanford is a powerhouse. Their back-ups could start for most teams in the country. Everyone else is in flux. Arizona lost 6-7 players...uo lost 5...Ucla has numerous newcomers. Too much change everywhere to make accurate predictions. I believe in Scott and his system over the last decade.
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 27, 2022 7:21:01 GMT -8
ESPN's transfer rankings list: www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33803721/women-college-basketball-transfer-rankings-2022-23-season- No surprise that Jones checks in as the No. 3 committed transfer (though I assume she'll drop to around No. 6 once some of the uncommitted to commit). - I'm a little surprised that Brown didn't make the top-30. I personally am not very high on her game, but I think she's in the top 30. - I also think that Yeaney likely could have made the top-30. - Stephanie Visscher would be a great fit at OSU. Hopefully we can get her on a visit. We could use her efficiency and all-around game out on the perimeter. I agree about Brown - her stats don’t tell the whole story, as here defense can really make an impact. Jones at number 3 tells me that the portal may not be very rich on bigs in general - I’d honestly be reserved I’m my excitement about Jones coming into fresh to OSU given her history against elite bigs and coming off shoulder surgery - isn’t this her second one? (I seem to recall she had off-season surgery before but I’m not finding evidence if that). Brown still has upside potential - Jones is likely who she has been at best, less at least lots of scar tissue to work through to get her scoring touch back. If Brown can figure out how to be a moderately consistent scorer (big if), she could really be an impact player. UConn reaching to the MAAC for big help also suggests a dearth of impact transferring bigs.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Apr 27, 2022 11:29:01 GMT -8
I have no basis for the following prognostications, but hey, this is a message board :-)..... I suspect Taylor will go back to generating "good" stats - where "good" in my mind is "flirting with a double-double regularly", and if the Longhorns have good to great passers to provide her good entry passes, #3 on the portal ranking list might be warranted. I suspect the change of scenery back to Texas will provide a lift, and might even accelerate her comeback from surgeries. On Kennedy, I always suspected the issues have been more psychological than physical - she has all the tools, and she seems just as surprised to miss the easy shots as we are......but she had lots of opportunities to break through here (for example, the 2 missed FTs that would have sealed a close NC game - I am trying to forget, so I will try to remember that putback hoop-and-harm game winner as we go forward). But she seems to have become a 6'4" Gabby Hanson for us, and unfortunately we don't have Gabby's running mates that can put up the scoring needed (and do so with the defender assigned to Gabby doubling them). Perhaps with the right "hoops whisperer" she can get back to more scoring to go with her defensive prowess, but I don't know enough about Duke's coaching staff to know. That said, I think she can at least replicate her stats at OSU there, and that might be all Duke is looking for.... So both KB and TJ might have made good moves for themselves, but we are at a net loss on talent and experience. That said, SR's most successful season at his prior stop was with a very young team, and in my profession, the late great Seymour Cray said that he liked to hire engineers fresh out of school, because they hadn't learned what was impossible yet, so you could ask them to do it. Let's hope we at least get close, and the team we have next year lets us better digest the paradigm shift that NIL and portal and pandemic have brought about. And this clip is always my favorite on wishing for players we don't have:
Go Beavers!
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Post by rmancarl on Apr 27, 2022 12:23:12 GMT -8
I have no basis for the following prognostications, but hey, this is a message board :-)..... I suspect Taylor will go back to generating "good" stats - where "good" in my mind is "flirting with a double-double regularly", and if the Longhorns have good to great passers to provide her good entry passes, #3 on the portal ranking list might be warranted. I suspect the change of scenery back to Texas will provide a lift, and might even accelerate her comeback from surgeries. On Kennedy, I always suspected the issues have been more psychological than physical - she has all the tools, and she seems just as surprised to miss the easy shots as we are......but she had lots of opportunities to break through here (for example, the 2 missed FTs that would have sealed a close NC game - I am trying to forget, so I will try to remember that putback hoop-and-harm game winner as we go forward). But she seems to have become a 6'4" Gabby Hanson for us, and unfortunately we don't have Gabby's running mates that can put up the scoring needed (and do so with the defender assigned to Gabby doubling them). Perhaps with the right "hoops whisperer" she can get back to more scoring to go with her defensive prowess, but I don't know enough about Duke's coaching staff to know. That said, I think she can at least replicate her stats at OSU there, and that might be all Duke is looking for.... So both KB and TJ might have made good moves for themselves, but we are at a net loss on talent and experience. That said, SR's most successful season at his prior stop was with a very young team, and in my profession, the late great Seymour Cray said that he liked to hire engineers fresh out of school, because they hadn't learned what was impossible yet, so you could ask them to do it. Let's hope we at least get close, and the team we have next year lets us better digest the paradigm shift that NIL and portal and pandemic have brought about. And this clip is always my favorite on wishing for players we don't have: Go Beavers! I agree with you on Taylor, and I think Kennedy could show improvement next season. Remember how Jaz Shelley went from a so so year for the ducks to having a really strong year for Nebraska? I think the same could happen for Kennedy. As you said, the change may just be the psychological boost she needs.
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Post by beav74 on Apr 27, 2022 12:40:45 GMT -8
ESPN's transfer rankings list: www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33803721/women-college-basketball-transfer-rankings-2022-23-season- No surprise that Jones checks in as the No. 3 committed transfer (though I assume she'll drop to around No. 6 once some of the uncommitted to commit). - I'm a little surprised that Brown didn't make the top-30. I personally am not very high on her game, but I think she's in the top 30. - I also think that Yeaney likely could have made the top-30. - Stephanie Visscher would be a great fit at OSU. Hopefully we can get her on a visit. We could use her efficiency and all-around game out on the perimeter. I agree about Brown - her stats don’t tell the whole story, as here defense can really make an impact. Jones at number 3 tells me that the portal may not be very rich on bigs in general - I’d honestly be reserved I’m my excitement about Jones coming into fresh to OSU given her history against elite bigs and coming off shoulder surgery - isn’t this her second one? (I seem to recall she had off-season surgery before but I’m not finding evidence if that). Brown still has upside potential - Jones is likely who she has been at best, less at least lots of scar tissue to work through to get her scoring touch back. If Brown can figure out how to be a moderately consistent scorer (big if), she could really be an impact player. UConn reaching to the MAAC for big help also suggests a dearth of impact transferring bigs.
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Post by beav74 on Apr 27, 2022 12:41:28 GMT -8
Brown no where close to the top 30!
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