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Post by irimi on Mar 8, 2022 19:48:04 GMT -8
I didn’t like him because his style was just so simple. His columns aimed for views, which meant he was a gossip columnist/opinion writer working as a sports editor. I would rather he had stayed above it all, but that’s hard to do when you sensationalize everything. In reality, I suspect the media and the times created the man. He rose above neither, but played them both to his advantage. Perhaps that’s good business sense, but I think a lot of people aren’t especially fond of clickbait titles and sports talk with pointless debates. I haven't watched for awhile, but doesn't that describe a lot of the programming on ESPN? It must be popular with someone. The genre is flooded with ESPN-style.  |
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Post by irimi on Mar 8, 2022 19:53:09 GMT -8
Not sure why the hatred toward the guy. He generally says it like it is. Some people don't like the truth especially if it's not favorable to you. In 2008, 2 PSU basketball players in Cabo San Lucas for Spring Break were falsely accused of violent assault by a local American "tour guide" and temporarily jailed. Canzano prematurely jumped all over the story and essentially pronounced Morrison guilty of drunkenly sucker-punching a stranger while tossing in a snide slam about his PSU effectiveness. After a day in custody Morrison and his teammate were released with formal apologies from the local police. There was never any retraction, correction or apology from Canzano. That told me everything I needed to know about him. And that's why I say good f**king riddance. Apologies don’t get clicks and don’t stir up the debate. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 8, 2022 20:25:10 GMT -8
Taking the high road, while tough for many folks like me, is indeed the way to go. Another thing my wife was right about. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 8, 2022 20:27:22 GMT -8
He was actually capable of good writing. Unfortunately, he succumbed to the, “if it bleeds, it leads…,” mentality. Probably forced. Schmuck fans hated him just as much. Me? Meh. Seemed like a nice, little, bald-headed fella looking for his niche in the world. He’s not very little. Bald? Yes. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 8, 2022 20:28:13 GMT -8
Wasn’t he? In Columbus, the sports editor did the Mail Bag and special columns like that. I know Canzano did the mail bag, so I assumed he had a larger role in Sports than just a reporter. I still think he would’ve been a better writer before the days of the Internet and clicks for article views. He probably was. He was the lead columnist. He was not the editor. Not a reporter. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 8, 2022 20:37:34 GMT -8
Taking the high road, while tough for many folks like me, is indeed the way to go. Another thing my wife was right about. “We wish John all the best going forward,” said Therese Bottomly, editor of The Oregonian/OregonLive. “He is a tremendously talented journalist and wrote many memorable columns over the years.” For someone who worked for your company for 20 years, a boilerplate 2 sentence - 22 word goodbye is pretty chilly. And thus, very telling. Wonder if Ms Canzano will stay around at the O? |
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Mar 8, 2022 20:59:49 GMT -8
Taking the high road, while tough for many folks like me, is indeed the way to go. Another thing my wife was right about. “We wish John all the best going forward,” said Therese Bottomly, editor of The Oregonian/OregonLive. “He is a tremendously talented journalist and wrote many memorable columns over the years.” For someone who worked for your company for 20 years, a 2 sentence - 22 word goodbye is pretty chilly. And thus, very telling. Wonder if Ms Canzano will stay around at the O? "Ms Canzano" is no better. I personally witnessed an interview she did with a colleague. The report she edited and put on the air was 180 degrees different than what was the truth. I guess sometimes the truth just doesn't sell or fit her narrative. She is and always will be a lying hack in my book. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 8, 2022 22:42:07 GMT -8
He was the lead columnist. He was not the editor. Nor a reporter. Bet you can’t tell that titles don’t impress me much. /s He acted like he mattered, but his work missed that mark. There. That leaves all the titles and job descriptions out of it, but gets the point across even for the persnickety. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 8, 2022 22:43:32 GMT -8
“We wish John all the best going forward,” said Therese Bottomly, editor of The Oregonian/OregonLive. “He is a tremendously talented journalist and wrote many memorable columns over the years.” For someone who worked for your company for 20 years, a 2 sentence - 22 word goodbye is pretty chilly. And thus, very telling. Wonder if Ms Canzano will stay around at the O? "Ms Canzano" is no better. I personally witnessed an interview she did with a colleague. The report she edited and put on the air was 180 degrees different than what was the truth. I guess sometimes the truth just doesn't sell or fit her narrative. She is and always will be a lying hack in my book. Really? Damn. I always liked her work at KATU. Didn’t follow too much of her work on O Live because I figured she was only there because of her husband. This is sad to read. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 8, 2022 23:51:15 GMT -8
"Ms Canzano" is no better. I personally witnessed an interview she did with a colleague. The report she edited and put on the air was 180 degrees different than what was the truth. I guess sometimes the truth just doesn't sell or fit her narrative. She is and always will be a lying hack in my book. Really? Damn. I always liked her work at KATU. Didn’t follow too much of her work on O Live because I figured she was only there because of her husband. This is sad to read. I'm guessing it's possible that such bad people and those so poor at their jobs have been up or won so many awards, but?? More likely that personal opinion and biases are a bit one sided?! |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 9, 2022 5:24:59 GMT -8
Really? Damn. I always liked her work at KATU. Didn’t follow too much of her work on O Live because I figured she was only there because of her husband. This is sad to read. I'm guessing it's possible that such bad people and those so poor at their jobs have been up or won so many awards, but?? More likely that personal opinion and biases are a bit one sided?! Unfortunately, that’s what the “news” has become. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 9, 2022 9:51:36 GMT -8
I'm guessing it's possible that such bad people and those so poor at their jobs have been up or won so many awards, but?? More likely that personal opinion and biases are a bit one sided?! Unfortunately, that’s what the “news” has become. But as you said, John was not a newsman. He was an opinion columnist. He was paid to write what he thought, not to be an objective source. Despite what Irimi says, it's a huge distinction and titles do matter. A news reporter and an opinion columnists are as different as a defensive tackle and a quarterback. |
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Post by beavheart on Mar 9, 2022 11:49:22 GMT -8
To me Kerry Eggers is proof right before our eyes that someone can be a successful sports writer, columnist, or whatever label you want to give him without having to resort to hyperbole to "get clicks." Always factual, classy, and positive. He mixed in plenty of his own anecdotes and opinion, but never had to step all over anyone to do his job.
Hate is a strong work for Clownzano. I just couldn't support the guy after multiple times of running down OSU, and piling on to the Heimlich situation. Not a fan of the shock jock style anyway. The guys wasn't all bad though. Definitely some good interviews in there.
I think if he had just tried to be a little less controversial and little more like Eggers he would be leaving the O with a lot more fans.
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Mar 9, 2022 14:54:51 GMT -8
I didn’t like him because his style was just so simple. His columns aimed for views, which meant he was a gossip columnist/opinion writer working as a sports editor. I would rather he had stayed above it all, but that’s hard to do when you sensationalize everything. In reality, I suspect the media and the times created the man. He rose above neither, but played them both to his advantage. Perhaps that’s good business sense, but I think a lot of people aren’t especially fond of clickbait titles and sports talk with pointless debates. He was not working as a sports editor. He was strictly a columnist. And yes, unfortunately the game is to get as many clicks as possible. Whether you love him or hate him, he did his job. If he did his job, he'd still be employed. |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Mar 9, 2022 14:57:09 GMT -8
"Ms Canzano" is no better. I personally witnessed an interview she did with a colleague. The report she edited and put on the air was 180 degrees different than what was the truth. I guess sometimes the truth just doesn't sell or fit her narrative. She is and always will be a lying hack in my book. Really? Damn. I always liked her work at KATU. Didn’t follow too much of her work on O Live because I figured she was only there because of her husband. This is sad to read. She thought she could make more in the newspaper business. Yes, read that again. LOL |
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