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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 19, 2022 14:30:25 GMT -8
Correct. UC Irvine is the first good team that we’ll face. Gonzaga played in the NCAA tournament in 2021, 2018 and 2016, and won a game each time. It advanced to the WCC championship series in 2019. By any metric Gonzaga is a quality baseball program. And they might have finished 6th or 7th in the PAC 12 those years, if they were lucky. And winning 1 game in a regional is not a sign of greatness. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 19, 2022 14:35:12 GMT -8
When will that be? UC Irvine? Or our first loss? ;-) Correct. UC Irvine is the first good team that we’ll face. Well, that’s one way to look at things and it isn’t wrong. But what’s the point in posting that? You just feel it’s necessary to remind us all that we shouldn’t feel excited about a team that is currently excelling? There’s always time to come down to earth later. Enjoy the moment, man. Beavs look great. Batters are much more improved over last year. We have a solid lineup that’s actually scary. We have strong defense. A catcher that can throw out the runner trying to steal. Boyd out in the outfield with a canon arm. Lots of good to see. Lots of improvement over last year. Enjoy it. |
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Post by 56chevy on Feb 19, 2022 14:37:03 GMT -8
14 innings into the season and this looks to be a complete team. Hits for contact, can hit for power. Can play small, they fly around the bases. The defense in the field is...outstanding! The remaining question is pitching depth, and we will find out the answer soon enough. I think I’ll withhold judgment until we play a good team, but so far, so good. Fair enough. I'll tell you this for sure, the speed and the defense in the field will not take a day off. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 19, 2022 14:39:40 GMT -8
When will that be? UC Irvine? Or our first loss? ;-) Maybe some don't have short memories?? Our preseason schedule is by no means that challenging. Sort of like a 20 run outing, 10-1 start to a season, and go just over .500 the last 50 games. If Fritsch is actually seriously injured that's 1/3 of the potentially potent starting staff. These first dozen or so games should be Ws or highly a close, competitive loss or two. Especially if this team is a top 4 Pac12 team. A wait and see attitude isn't negativity or skepticism. No game is a given. We lost to K State last year in our first game of the year, so by no means are these games cakewalks. You can simply ask yourself how the team looks compared to last year or the year before. To me, it looks more settled and more composed than it has in years. That’s what matters to me. I don’t think that a high level of competition is really necessary to see that. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 19, 2022 14:40:32 GMT -8
Gonzaga played in the NCAA tournament in 2021, 2018 and 2016, and won a game each time. It advanced to the WCC championship series in 2019. By any metric Gonzaga is a quality baseball program. And they might have finished 6th or 7th in the PAC 12 those years, if they were lucky. And winning 1 game in a regional is not a sign of greatness. I never said they were great. Your contention was they were not even a good team ( "I think I’ll withhold judgment until we play a good team;" "UC Irvine is the first GOOD team that we'll face," to quote you exactly). Maybe GU will have a down year. But at this time, recent history shows GU will probably field a good, if not better than good, team. There are more than 300 college baseball teams in the country. Only 32 of them (roughly 10%) win at least one NCAA game every year. Consistently making NCAA tournaments, and winning at least once when you get there, is the sign of an excellent program, no matter the sport. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 19, 2022 14:46:09 GMT -8
And they might have finished 6th or 7th in the PAC 12 those years, if they were lucky. And winning 1 game in a regional is not a sign of greatness. I never said they were great. Your contention was they were not even a good team ( "I think I’ll withhold judgment until we play a good team;" "UC Irvine is the first GOOD team that we'll face," to quote you exactly). Maybe GU will have a down year. But at this time, recent history shows GU will probably field a good, if not better than good, team. There are more than 300 college baseball teams in the country. Only 32 of them (roughly 10%) win at least one NCAA game every year. Consistently making NCAA tournaments, and winning at least once when you get there, is the sign of an excellent program, no matter the sport. Might want to check your math. With 64 teams in and 4 teams in each region, 3 out of 4 teams in each regional win 1 game. There’s only 1 team in each regional that can go 0-2. |
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Post by Beavcat on Feb 19, 2022 15:09:08 GMT -8
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 19, 2022 15:09:54 GMT -8
Yeah, OK, 16 teams go 0-2. The point still stands. You consistently advance to NCAAs, and win a game when you go, you're a good program.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 19, 2022 15:20:58 GMT -8
Yeah, OK, 16 teams go 0-2. The point still stands. You consistently advance to NCAAs, and win a game when you go, you're a good program. So 4 times in 40 years is good? Got it. Our basketball program must be “good” We have much different definitions of “good” By the way, we beat their “good” program last year 20-4 early in the season. |
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Post by beavermd on Feb 19, 2022 15:31:49 GMT -8
Yeah, OK, 16 teams go 0-2. The point still stands. You consistently advance to NCAAs, and win a game when you go, you're a good program. So 4 times in 40 years is good? Got it. Our basketball program must be “good” We have much different definitions of “good” By the way, we beat their “good” program last year 20-4 early in the season. Gonzaga is a good program. Stop being a pretentious DB. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 19, 2022 15:33:13 GMT -8
So 4 times in 40 years is good? Got it. Our basketball program must be “good” We have much different definitions of “good” By the way, we beat their “good” program last year 20-4 early in the season. Gonzaga is a good program. Stop being pretentious DB. Not Darwin Barney, but good guess. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 19, 2022 15:52:29 GMT -8
Yeah, OK, 16 teams go 0-2. The point still stands. You consistently advance to NCAAs, and win a game when you go, you're a good program. So 4 times in 40 years is good? Got it. Our basketball program must be “good” We have much different definitions of “good” By the way, we beat their “good” program last year 20-4 early in the season. Try three times in the last five seasons. What happened in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s is irrelevant. Sports is a "What have you done for me lately" business and lately, GU baseball has delivered. If our men's BB team would have advanced to the NCAAs in 2016, 2018 and 2021, and made the round of 32 every year, I'd be very, very happy, and believe we had a "good" basketball program. I surmise you would to. Yes, we beat them badly last year. And guess what, they won the WCC, made an NCAA regional, and won a game. So they were a good team last year too. You know that, but you just painted yourself into a corner. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 19, 2022 15:57:01 GMT -8
So 4 times in 40 years is good? Got it. Our basketball program must be “good” We have much different definitions of “good” By the way, we beat their “good” program last year 20-4 early in the season. Try three times in the last five seasons. What happened in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s is irrelevant. Sports is a "What have you done for me lately" business and lately, GU baseball has delivered. If our men's BB team would have advanced to the NCAAs in 2016, 2018 and 2021, and made the round of 32 every year, I'd be very, very happy, and believe we had a "good" basketball program. I surmise you would to. Yes, we beat them badly last year. And guess what, they won the WCC, made an NCAA regional, and won a game. So they were a good team last year too. Our basketball team was good last year too. My only point was that I want to see a few more games before I anoint this team. I do like seeing the hitting improve so far, but it’s still very early. Also, still have questions about our bullpen, which we didn’t really need in the first 2 games. If Frisch is injured, that’s also another concern. I didn’t know withholding my tickets to Omaha would turn into a Gonzaga love fest. And they made the NCAA tournament 3 times in the last 6 years. You’re still having math issues. |
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Post by zeroposter on Feb 19, 2022 17:09:42 GMT -8
Try three times in the last five seasons. What happened in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s is irrelevant. Sports is a "What have you done for me lately" business and lately, GU baseball has delivered. If our men's BB team would have advanced to the NCAAs in 2016, 2018 and 2021, and made the round of 32 every year, I'd be very, very happy, and believe we had a "good" basketball program. I surmise you would to. Yes, we beat them badly last year. And guess what, they won the WCC, made an NCAA regional, and won a game. So they were a good team last year too. Our basketball team was good last year too. My only point was that I want to see a few more games before I anoint this team. I do like seeing the hitting improve so far, but it’s still very early. Also, still have questions about our bullpen, which we didn’t really need in the first 2 games. If Frisch is injured, that’s also another concern. I didn’t know withholding my tickets to Omaha would turn into a Gonzaga love fest. And they made the NCAA tournament 3 times in the last 6 years. You’re still having math issues. The pitching concerns are definitely present for me as well. We will know a little more after tomorrow. The position players are improved. No doubt. Speed and arms. The mental approach at the plate is good, again so far. I am optimistic on that aspect. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 19, 2022 18:55:47 GMT -8
Try three times in the last five seasons. What happened in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s is irrelevant. Sports is a "What have you done for me lately" business and lately, GU baseball has delivered. If our men's BB team would have advanced to the NCAAs in 2016, 2018 and 2021, and made the round of 32 every year, I'd be very, very happy, and believe we had a "good" basketball program. I surmise you would to. Yes, we beat them badly last year. And guess what, they won the WCC, made an NCAA regional, and won a game. So they were a good team last year too. Our basketball team was good last year too. My only point was that I want to see a few more games before I anoint this team. I do like seeing the hitting improve so far, but it’s still very early. Also, still have questions about our bullpen, which we didn’t really need in the first 2 games. If Frisch is injured, that’s also another concern. I didn’t know withholding my tickets to Omaha would turn into a Gonzaga love fest. And they made the NCAA tournament 3 times in the last 6 years. You’re still having math issues. This time, my math is fine. Nobody made the postseason in 2020. Remember, it was canceled by Covid? Perhaps three times in the last five NCAAs would have been clearer. Yes, this team needs to prove more, obviously. But this team has nothing whatsoever to do with determining whether GU is a good program or not. |
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