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Post by jdogge on Jan 26, 2022 17:25:10 GMT -8
There is a reason we can't recruit a top tier point guard. Not going to mention a name but he is like 5 6, nearly bald, and sits on the bench. Here we go ... |
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Post by lotrader on Jan 26, 2022 17:26:00 GMT -8
Cleansing my WBB palate by watching the AZ vs UCLA game. UCLA has only had 7 players all season and it shows as they all play so well together. And UCLA players play fearlessly.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 26, 2022 17:44:34 GMT -8
Not much more to say. We need a less controlled offense and real penetrating point guards. Why when a player gets to the basket pass it off turning the ball over baffles Me. Offense needs to be in motion to susede. To stand there dribbling the ball why no one moves in unthinkable. Happened a few times. Turnovers should not be over 8 to 10 a game if You played uptempo. We do not and still manage turnovers and few assists. Recruit a Point guard that is a person of color snd tall and quick. Short and quick is ok too. Jimmy the Greek is in the house! |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 26, 2022 17:44:57 GMT -8
Well... being it's the OSU WBB board the overreactions are to be expected. This is the board that seems to have the most extreme highs and lows. Maybe because expectations are always so high?!
But, because of that folks seem to overlook multiple issues. Some being...
- SR was to have "stepped back" and seriously reevaluated himself 2 years ago. There was crap going on and it wasn't one sided;
- McDs AA etc are "prospects", they've never played a stitch of college ball. They've certainly never had to mentally and physically been exposed to being a Pac12 student athlete. Some just aren't ready, some don't cut it at all;
- like SR or not, he's a "control freak" in terms that there isn't much freedom on either end of the court. Some folks have a tough time adjusting to that type of play. It's been successful, but not every young lady is made to play that style;
This team just doesn't appear to be "gelling". Personalities, playing style, talent, adjusting to Pac12 play with each other, confidence, some/all of the above?!
A pretty generic list that effects all programs in some fashion. But, comparing the way this team plays there's definitely some behind the scene stuff. Guessing it's minor in terms of adjusting to elite college play, and to each other... players and coaches.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 26, 2022 18:20:14 GMT -8
One 3-pt hoop in 40 minutes rarely (never?) results in a victory.
Is ONE 3-pointer a record low for a Rueck OSU team?
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Post by sparty on Jan 26, 2022 18:41:10 GMT -8
Cleansing my WBB palate by watching the AZ vs UCLA game. UCLA has only had 7 players all season and it shows as they all play so well together. And UCLA players play fearlessly. UCLA plays hard. You would call it battle tested.
Btw, it looks like they are down to 6 players. May have lost their point guard. Don't know yet.
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Post by sparty on Jan 26, 2022 18:48:34 GMT -8
Well... being it's the OSU WBB board the overreactions are to be expected. This is the board that seems to have the most extreme highs and lows. Maybe because expectations are always so high?! But, because of that folks seem to overlook multiple issues. Some being... - SR was to have "stepped back" and seriously reevaluated himself 2 years ago. There was crap going on and it wasn't one sided; - McDs AA etc are "prospects", they've never played a stitch of college ball. They've certainly never had to mentally and physically been exposed to being a Pac12 student athlete. Some just aren't ready, some don't cut it at all; - like SR or not, he's a "control freak" in terms that there isn't much freedom on either end of the court. Some folks have a tough time adjusting to that type of play. It's been successful, but not every young lady is made to play that style; This team just doesn't appear to be "gelling". Personalities, playing style, talent, adjusting to Pac12 play with each other, confidence, some/all of the above?! A pretty generic list that effects all programs in some fashion. But, comparing the way this team plays there's definitely some behind the scenes stuff. Guessing it's minor in terms of adjusting to elite college play, and to each other... players and coaches. Based on everything you said here it looks like the program could possibly play the portal shuffle. I ran into one administrator about a month ago and I asked him about the transfer portal in general. He basically thought that not only coaches have to recruit each year new players but they will now have to basically re-recruit the rosters that they already have. Kind of made sense. |
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Post by 1042 on Jan 26, 2022 19:12:45 GMT -8
Well... being it's the OSU WBB board the overreactions are to be expected. This is the board that seems to have the most extreme highs and lows. Maybe because expectations are always so high?! But, because of that folks seem to overlook multiple issues. Some being... - SR was to have "stepped back" and seriously reevaluated himself 2 years ago. There was crap going on and it wasn't one sided; - McDs AA etc are "prospects", they've never played a stitch of college ball. They've certainly never had to mentally and physically been exposed to being a Pac12 student athlete. Some just aren't ready, some don't cut it at all; - like SR or not, he's a "control freak" in terms that there isn't much freedom on either end of the court. Some folks have a tough time adjusting to that type of play. It's been successful, but not every young lady is made to play that style; This team just doesn't appear to be "gelling". Personalities, playing style, talent, adjusting to Pac12 play with each other, confidence, some/all of the above?! A pretty generic list that effects all programs in some fashion. But, comparing the way this team plays there's definitely some behind the scene stuff. Guessing it's minor in terms of adjusting to elite college play, and to each other... players and coaches. |
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Post by 1042 on Jan 26, 2022 19:13:23 GMT -8
Question? What crap was going on 2 years ago? Just wondering
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 26, 2022 19:27:28 GMT -8
OSU vs UW
4 pages of posts on a game we won
OSU vs WSU
7 pages of posts (and counting) on a game we lost.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 26, 2022 19:27:38 GMT -8
Question? What crap was going on 2 years ago? Just wondering There was player(s)/coach unrest is the simple version. Pretty normal stuff that happens from time to time. But, blown out of proportion in terms of blame, etc. Other than that, don't ask... really. It will be a 20 page thread of innuendo, accusations, angry retorts, rumor mill gossip, and anything else you can imagine. All of which doesn't matter now or need a complete rehashing. |
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Post by sparty on Jan 26, 2022 19:42:42 GMT -8
Question? What crap was going on 2 years ago? Just wondering There was player(s)/coach unrest is the simple version. Pretty normal stuff that happens from time to time. But, blown out of proportion in terms of blame, etc. Other than that, don't ask... really. It will be a 20 page thread of innuendo, accusations, angry retorts, rumor mill gossip, and anything else you can imagine. All of which doesn't matter now or need a complete rehashing. Instead of giving us the simple version give us the complex version. People that walk around and gloat that they know there are issues in the program then say they can't say are just pouring gas on a fire saying I know of issues you dont know of. Maybe these issues never left the program? You posted it with the intention of creating a crap storm. We could each start a list? Was it playing time? Too much coaching control in game time and players rebelling against it?
Maybe it is still there?
Next.....
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Post by beaverfever148 on Jan 26, 2022 19:43:13 GMT -8
OSU vs UW 4 pages of posts on a game we won OSU vs WSU 7 pages of posts (and counting) on a game we lost. Look, I’m not one to get down on the team, program or coaching staff after a loss. But when neither of the opponents are really that good, there’s definitely more to be said about the loss than the win. |
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Post by sparty on Jan 26, 2022 19:46:10 GMT -8
OSU vs UW 4 pages of posts on a game we won OSU vs WSU 7 pages of posts (and counting) on a game we lost. Look, I’m not one to get down on the team, program or coaching staff after a loss. But when neither of the opponents are really that good, there’s definitely more to be said about the loss than the win. Nothing different than any other program. UCONN gets 40 to 50 pages of posts after a loss. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jan 26, 2022 19:56:43 GMT -8
Actually I am more disappointed with the coaching. But why is it poor coaching this year as you pointed out, what changed in your opinion? It just feels the team has no grit or fight but I am not sure why?
Lost 2 assistants, brought in 2 new ones. Maybe everybody on the coaching staff isn't on the same page of the book? If you're old enough, you'll remember when USC used to be called Tailback U and they ran student body right or left. They used to come up to the line of scrimmage and just about tell the other team, "We're gonna run the ball right over there; you try to stop us." Works just great until, eventually, it doesn't. Then you either adjust or you lose. Maybe the world has our offense figured out, we don't have the right players to run that offense, but we're not adjusting. As I said, I don't have the answers. It looks like it's going to be a rough year, though. Well, if answers were that easy to come by, the adjustments would have been made at half time. I also subscribe to the theory that the turnover in assistant coaches is a critical factor. There is certainly a disparity in the energy level of the bench, the assistant coach - player engagement, the level of animated coaching being delivered. I hope these coaches will find the mojo, whatever it is, but not sure. But areas that I suspect Katie Faulkner had a lot to do with (bigs, rebounding), are in a bit of decline this year. I also agree with the observation that the offense needs to flow through players on the floor, not the HC (though you need a heady player on the floor [Syd, Aleah, ....] directing traffic. We also need McD AAs to play like they are one - right now we are doing a lot of "yeah but" when we describe some seemingly world-class talent: "KB is great on D.......yeah but where did her O go?" or "Greta has an amazing shot.....yeah, but she needs to look for her shot more often". And the rest of the Pac-12 is starting to pay more and more attention to WBB, so remaining competitive is increasingly challenging regardless. Here's hoping this is but a blip, weird aberration in a weird time, and we field a juggernaut next season with the stellar incoming class. I had to teach a class at work, so I couldn't even leave a window open and watch the game sans announcer - was bummed at start time but now realize almost all is right in my world - just need WBB to figure out how to get things right in their world. Go Beavers! |
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