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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 11, 2021 5:13:29 GMT -8
Minorities voting is bad? No, he's not saying that minorities voting is a bad thing; that would not be treating minorities with respect and he just said that he treats everyone with respect, "regardless of race/creed, whatever..." He just said that the 70+% of non-whites who routinely vote Democratic don't have the ability to realize that they are just being used for votes. I think the Dems do a great job at selling themselves.....doesn't mean they have the answers.....and I predict more and more Americans will get off the Dem bandwagon as they go further left....buyers remorse if you will. And just to be clear, the repubs do the same thing to different demographics fwiw, I'm not a repub. I'm independent and lean kind of Libertarian. Although don't agree with all of the platform. Ok I'm done with politics....I'm sure no one on here is convincing anyone else. So I'm gonna let it be. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 11, 2021 5:48:56 GMT -8
Who is teaching your children critical race theory and if it is a school, what school is it? Critical race theory is a big part of the current leftist movement. It has not been incorporated as of yet, in primary schools, as far as I can tell, but it will be. There's plenty of information out there.....my understanding is there will be teacher education on the theory and Oregon will prolly be on the leading edge....I'll see if I can find a link, but I'm kinda lazy on that s%#t. I won’t hold my breath on that. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 11, 2021 5:51:00 GMT -8
No, he's not saying that minorities voting is a bad thing; that would not be treating minorities with respect and he just said that he treats everyone with respect, "regardless of race/creed, whatever..." He just said that the 70+% of non-whites who routinely vote Democratic don't have the ability to realize that they are just being used for votes. I think the Dems do a great job at selling themselves.....doesn't mean they have the answers.....and I predict more and more Americans will get off the Dem bandwagon as they go further left....buyers remorse if you will. And just to be clear, the repubs do the same thing to different demographics fwiw, I'm not a repub. I'm independent and lean kind of Libertarian. Although don't agree with all of the platform. Ok I'm done with politics....I'm sure no one on here is convincing anyone else. So I'm gonna let it be. Thank God. |
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Post by billsaab on Jun 11, 2021 6:17:02 GMT -8
Very disappointed the big o bringing up Luke Heinrich. Maybe that was a sticking point but at the time I read a lot of articles and feel The young man was ruined by public and sloppy gandering. I think He was innocent. I believe Casey did the right thing. I think this issue played a lot on his stepping away. The left is relentless. I happen to not like either party so I can criticize the deep broken culture.,Race theory is idiotic and the reason I have moved on from supporting the Beavers with my money. The nasty attitude of kids I engaged was an eye opener for me. I am sure that LSU with the help of the Oregonian did its diligence. Critical race theory the woke culture and the restrictions abd the crime are reasons for people to take action to stop it. That is really sad to see. I wish all good health and that the Beavers win in their sports.
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Post by irimi on Jun 11, 2021 6:27:06 GMT -8
Who is teaching your children critical race theory and if it is a school, what school is it? Critical race theory is a big part of the current leftist movement. It has not been incorporated as of yet, in primary schools, as far as I can tell, but it will be. There's plenty of information out there.....my understanding is there will be teacher education on the theory and Oregon will prolly be on the leading edge....I'll see if I can find a link, but I'm kinda lazy on that s%#t. Current? Critical race theory has been around since the 1980s. The trouble is, now the term is being used politically to refer to any sort of questioning of racial relations and conditions in the US. And since the term is politically charged, it's easy to toss out and disparage by people who have no clue what it really is, just assumptions based upon what they hear their political talking heads say. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 11, 2021 6:33:47 GMT -8
Very disappointed the big o bringing up Luke Heinrich. Maybe that was a sticking point but at the time I read a lot of articles and feel The young man was ruined by public and sloppy gandering. I think He was innocent. I believe Casey did the right thing. I think this issue played a lot on his stepping away. The left is relentless. I happen to not like either party so I can criticize the deep broken culture.,Race theory is idiotic and the reason I have moved on from supporting the Beavers with my money. The nasty attitude of kids I engaged was an eye opener for me. I am sure that LSU with the help of the Oregonian did its diligence. Critical race theory the woke culture and the restrictions abd the crime are reasons for people to take action to stop it. That is really sad to see. I wish all good health and that the Beavers win in their sports. WTF? What does “CRT” or “the left” have to do with LH? I’ll tell you - absolutely nothing. The tragedy of LH (assuming he’s totally innocent) was that he was betrayed by his own broken family, the very people who should have been ‘nearest and dearest’ to him. That’s the true betrayal there. And I just don’t get how that computes into your “left versus right” narrative. But some folks seem to be hell-bent on blanketing that narrative onto each and every issue in the news. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 11, 2021 6:36:40 GMT -8
Look, I don't necessarily like wearing masks, but if anyone thinks that is the reason Pat is considering coming out of retirement to move to a different state, that is just plain stupid. I try to rationalize the mask issue. If you don't want to wear a mask, maybe you should move to Myanmar or the middle east right now and complain to them? If wearing a f-ing mask is your biggest problem in the world, you are having a serious case of "1st world problems" After George Washington was elected the first POTUS, Benjamin Franklin said, “The first man put at the helm will be a good one. Nobody knows what sort may come afterwards. The executive will be always increasing here, as elsewhere, till it ends in a monarchy.” The mask thing just may just be the straw that broke the camel's back. You have taxes. You have the plastic bag ban. I mean, you can't even drink a soda anymore without a paper straw? You have a government that is slowly but surely rewriting and erasing history. You have the growing homeless issue. You have a complete breakdown of law and order. You have an 800% increase in homicides statewide. And you have a complete lack of will to tackle issues of homelessness and crime. It is death from a 1,000 cuts. The first or the second may not get you ![]()  At some point, the lawlessness for some mixed with the cocktail of government tyranny and oppression on others becomes too much. For some, it stops being a First World Problem and is what it is, a Problem. One, for Casey, that can easily be solved by moving to a state and having a new employer help and pay for the move. The tea was not The Problem in Boston in 1773 or in Annapolis in 1774, it was a symptom of larger and more complex problems and issues, among them a belief that the British government did not adequately reward hard work and doing too little to protect the settlers' life and property from bandits, pirates, Native Americans, foreign enemies, etc. And those problems and issues were too large and complex for England to ultimately solve. Much like in the 1770s, the mask is not The Problem in Oregon in 2021, it is a symptom of larger problems and issues. Why move to Myanmar or the Middle East, when you can move to Louisiana and Texas and just tell everyone down there how blessed you are that you are no longer in Oregon? What a weird thing to say. Why Myanmar, of all places? There are lots of ways to drink a soda without using a paper straw or a plastic straw. But who drinks sodas anymore anyway? Rewriting history? You mean like finally including the events in Tulsa in the public conversation? Yeah, that's a rewrite that needs to happen. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 11, 2021 6:40:31 GMT -8
Very disappointed the big o bringing up Luke Heinrich. Maybe that was a sticking point but at the time I read a lot of articles and feel The young man was ruined by public and sloppy gandering. I think He was innocent. I believe Casey did the right thing. I think this issue played a lot on his stepping away. The left is relentless. I happen to not like either party so I can criticize the deep broken culture., Race theory is idiotic and the reason I have moved on from supporting the Beavers with my money. The nasty attitude of kids I engaged was an eye opener for me. I am sure that LSU with the help of the Oregonian did its diligence. Critical race theory the woke culture and the restrictions abd the crime are reasons for people to take action to stop it. That is really sad to see. I wish all good health and that the Beavers win in their sports. Please explain, in your own words, why race theory is idiotic. (I got money that says you can't.) Please explain the connection between race theory and OSU athletics. (hint: there is none.) |
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 11, 2021 7:15:31 GMT -8
Very disappointed the big o bringing up Luke Heinrich. Maybe that was a sticking point but at the time I read a lot of articles and feel The young man was ruined by public and sloppy gandering. I think He was innocent. I believe Casey did the right thing. I think this issue played a lot on his stepping away. The left is relentless. I happen to not like either party so I can criticize the deep broken culture., Race theory is idiotic and the reason I have moved on from supporting the Beavers with my money. The nasty attitude of kids I engaged was an eye opener for me. I am sure that LSU with the help of the Oregonian did its diligence. Critical race theory the woke culture and the restrictions abd the crime are reasons for people to take action to stop it. That is really sad to see. I wish all good health and that the Beavers win in their sports. Please explain, in your own words, why race theory is idiotic. (I got money that says you can't.) Please explain the connection between race theory and OSU athletics. (hint: there is none.) Still hasn't explained how he arrived at only 1/3 of the state being open, so don't hold your breath. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 11, 2021 7:26:04 GMT -8
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Post by scythe on Jun 11, 2021 7:54:52 GMT -8
I thought the subjects of this board were baseball and Beaver Baseball. Silly me.
I know, I’ll go discuss Beaver Ball on some board about vaccinations, hyperinflation, illegal immigration, Communist China, something about race, orange man bad, global warming…et cetera, et al
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 11, 2021 8:02:34 GMT -8
I thought the subjects of this board were baseball and Beaver Baseball. Silly me. I know, I’ll go discuss Beaver Ball on some board about vaccinations, hyperinflation, illegal immigration, Communist China, something about race, orange man bad, global warming…et cetera, et al I apologize for getting so far off topic. I will leave it alone.....I swear |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 11, 2021 8:08:46 GMT -8
Very disappointed the big o bringing up Luke Heinrich. Maybe that was a sticking point but at the time I read a lot of articles and feel The young man was ruined by public and sloppy gandering. I think He was innocent. I believe Casey did the right thing. I think this issue played a lot on his stepping away. The left is relentless. I happen to not like either party so I can criticize the deep broken culture., Race theory is idiotic and the reason I have moved on from supporting the Beavers with my money. The nasty attitude of kids I engaged was an eye opener for me. I am sure that LSU with the help of the Oregonian did its diligence. Critical race theory the woke culture and the restrictions abd the crime are reasons for people to take action to stop it. That is really sad to see. I wish all good health and that the Beavers win in their sports. Please explain, in your own words, why race theory is idiotic. (I got money that says you can't.) Please explain the connection between race theory and OSU athletics. (hint: there is none.) Critical race theory is rank racism disguised as something more benign. It teaches that people who are ethnically European, even my white four-year-old daughter, is a inherently a bigot and that she can never not be a bigot. It also teaches that ethnic Africans (although that word is problematic, but all better words have already been deemed "racist), whether they were born before my four-year-old's inexorable racism was unleashed the world or not. In a phrase, it is racist against ethnic Europeans and demeaning to ethnic Europeans. It is a lie. Rank racism, like critical race theory, have no place in this or any other civil society. As to the relation between critical race theory and OSU athletics, I will let billsaab explain, because I have no idea. |
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Post by scythe on Jun 11, 2021 8:45:54 GMT -8
Please explain, in your own words, why race theory is idiotic. (I got money that says you can't.) Please explain the connection between race theory and OSU athletics. (hint: there is none.) Critical race theory is rank racism disguised as something more benign. It teaches that people who are ethnically European, even my white four-year-old daughter, is a inherently a bigot and that she can never not be a bigot. It also teaches that ethnic Africans (although that word is problematic, but all better words have already been deemed "racist), whether they were born before my four-year-old's inexorable racism was unleashed the world or not. In a phrase, it is racist against ethnic Europeans and demeaning to ethnic Europeans. It is a lie. Rank racism, like critical race theory, have no place in this or any other civil society. As to the relation between critical race theory and OSU athletics, I will let billsaab explain, because I have no idea. That’s interesting. So, teaching prejudice against citizens of European decent is somehow acceptable? Seriously? I did a term paper one time on the historic significance of the Age of Discovery and how that 300 to 400 year period determined the world we have today. I wonder if they teach the historic importance of Christopher Columbus, Ferdinand Magellan, Amerigo Verpucci, Herman Cortes, Henry Hudson, Vasco Balboa, Francis Drake and others. After all, only one civilization developed the science and technology necessary to circumnavigate the globe and that civilization was in Europe. Without this era, we would not have the United States. |
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Post by green85 on Jun 11, 2021 9:05:41 GMT -8
Critical race theory is rank racism disguised as something more benign. It teaches that people who are ethnically European, even my white four-year-old daughter, is a inherently a bigot and that she can never not be a bigot. It also teaches that ethnic Africans (although that word is problematic, but all better words have already been deemed "racist), whether they were born before my four-year-old's inexorable racism was unleashed the world or not. In a phrase, it is racist against ethnic Europeans and demeaning to ethnic Europeans. It is a lie. Rank racism, like critical race theory, have no place in this or any other civil society. As to the relation between critical race theory and OSU athletics, I will let billsaab explain, because I have no idea. That’s interesting. So, teaching prejudice against citizens of European decent is somehow acceptable? Seriously? I did a term paper one time on the historic significance of the Age of Discovery and how that 300 to 400 year period determined the world we have today. I wonder if they teach the historic importance of Christopher Columbus, Ferdinand Magellan, Amerigo Verpucci, Herman Cortes, Henry Hudson, Vasco Balboa, Francis Drake and others. After all, only one civilization developed the science and technology necessary to circumnavigate the globe and that civilization was in Europe. Without this era, we would not have the United States. From this quote " 70+% of non-whites who routinely vote Democratic don't have the ability to realize that they are just being used for votes." > It appears to be a blatant insult to the intelligence of any minority person voting for a Democrat. Followed by this: "After all, only one civilization developed the science and technology necessary to circumnavigate the globe and that civilization was in Europe. Without this era, we would not have the United States." I think one can easily see how the superiority of European civilization led to cultural and societal norms that not only ignored the contribution of other ethnic groups in history, but have been used to justify ANY action taken to retain that superiority. Many college students of my generation took a class called "The History of Western Civilization." While the content of the text was not inherently biased against a particular group, it was pretty easy to determine the perspective from which it was written. Human history is full of lessons about the tendency for people to seek to protect what they have and to protect their opportunity to improve the life for the family. What happens when a group uses this to justify taking rights and life from others is the history of war. If you want to RESPECT everyone you have to be willing to allow their pursuit of happiness to have the same value as yours. |
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