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Post by jdogge on Jun 11, 2021 15:18:45 GMT -8
Don't forget ableism. 26% of our society -- and pdx is the worst of American city I've visited -- is systematically isolated due to benign negligence. So, while we're eliminating racism, let's also work on ableism, misogyny, and homophobia. jdogge: May we return to football politics now? Yes, I realize that it's difficult for you to discuss anything other than privileged kids. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 11, 2021 16:04:10 GMT -8
No, it isn't and no, it doesn't. Critical Race Theory examines institutions and their role in propagating, however harmlessly, the racial divide. It is from this that we can talk about systemic racism. If you don't agree that there is systemic racism, then please explain how the horror of Tulsa was able to be covered up for so long. And the many other similar events. Further, Critical Race Theory honors the personal stories of minorities--their experiences and their lives. If we want to do anything about racism and inequality in this country, we first have to listen. What's that old saying? Walk a mile in their shoes? What Critical Race Theory aims to do is to remind you that if you are not working against racism, then you are complying with racism. It isn't enough to say, like previously claimed in this thread, that "I like those people." Or something of that sort. That's just lip service, which is just a step away from being a hypocrite. What are you doing to improve yourself and your ideas on race relations in the US? What are you doing to help minorities around you? I see Critical Race Theory as a call to action. To listen, to learn, to improve yourself. What am i doing to improve my ideas on racism and helping minorities? What makes you think minorities want or need our help? I know many people with melanin different than mine that would consider statements like this soft bigotry of low expectations as racist and insulting. Like i need to go out of my way to help minorities instead of classifying people by severity of need or desire to be helped? The way to not be racist is to not classify people by skin color and see each person as a unique individual. Why do liberals always want to plug people into a "community" based on skin color or other characteristics? It only further divides.
Critical Race Theory in my opinion is just another steaming pile of marxist garbage designed to pit us against each other. You'll never convince me otherwise. It seemed 'race relations' were thankfully a minor issue/problem until the race hustlers decided they could make a quick buck and gain more power using their useful idiots. White supremacy is a threat to our national security? Does anybody legitimately believe that? Until Americans realize we're being brainwashed to accept policies that divide us by race, economic class, religion, gender etc. we'll never be able to see eye-to-eye. I have little hope the majority will wake up to the charade.
My brown wife and I will go on teaching our brown children to judge people by their character, abilities, actions and ethics and not the melanin content in their skin. My family and at least another brown family that we know will send our high school graduates, who applied and intended to go to OSU, to private Christian universities where they're not forced to be injected with an unproven, experimental drug that's not been approved by the FDA to prevent a disease that's less dangerous to them as climbing in a car and driving to their friend's house. It was heart-breaking for the other family's daughter who had planned for years to be a Beaver. The added bonus of them going to a private school is avoiding the mandatory "act less white" indoctrination class. It would be confusing for my son anyway, and probably her too because I suppose they both act "too white". Clown world.
1. Because I work with them, day in and day out. I hear their stories. 2. "Marxism" is such a scary word to patriots. Tagging something as "Marxist" means a true patriot doesn't have to think about that commie BS. Don't be a sheep. Don't be afraid of words. 3. Really? Oh god. 4. I have never heard this and I've certainly never said it. White supremacists have run this country for decades. 5. Congratulations. But my wife is "yellow." And my sons have faced discrimination, as has my wife, and I by extension. 6. This is utter bulls%#t, and if you had half a brain, you would know it. But enjoy your Christian university. Hopefully, your children will get a different kind of vaccine there. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 11, 2021 16:10:25 GMT -8
What am i doing to improve my ideas on racism and helping minorities? What makes you think minorities want or need our help? I know many people with melanin different than mine that would consider statements like this soft bigotry of low expectations as racist and insulting. Like i need to go out of my way to help minorities instead of classifying people by severity of need or desire to be helped? The way to not be racist is to not classify people by skin color and see each person as a unique individual. Why do liberals always want to plug people into a "community" based on skin color or other characteristics? It only further divides.
Critical Race Theory in my opinion is just another steaming pile of marxist garbage designed to pit us against each other. You'll never convince me otherwise. It seemed 'race relations' were thankfully a minor issue/problem until the race hustlers decided they could make a quick buck and gain more power using their useful idiots. White supremacy is a threat to our national security? Does anybody legitimately believe that? Until Americans realize we're being brainwashed to accept policies that divide us by race, economic class, religion, gender etc. we'll never be able to see eye-to-eye. I have little hope the majority will wake up to the charade.
My brown wife and I will go on teaching our brown children to judge people by their character, abilities, actions and ethics and not the melanin content in their skin. My family and at least another brown family that we know will send our high school graduates, who applied and intended to go to OSU, to private Christian universities where they're not forced to be injected with an unproven, experimental drug that's not been approved by the FDA to prevent a disease that's less dangerous to them as climbing in a car and driving to their friend's house. It was heart-breaking for the other family's daughter who had planned for years to be a Beaver. The added bonus of them going to a private school is avoiding the mandatory "act less white" indoctrination class. It would be confusing for my son anyway, and probably her too because I suppose they both act "too white". Clown world.
And another thing while I'm at it. I'm sick and tired of white people telling me I need to view people with a different shade of skin than I as "other". A minority. I don't want my kids or wife to be thought of as a "person of color" and neither do they. It's insulting. In my view it further divides. They're Americans. Those with good intentions propagate this otherness. We're all brothers and sisters. We are all created in God's image. Stop with classifying people by something so trite as skin color or sexual preference, pigeon-holing them into your preconceived notion of who you think they should be, how they should feel, how they should vote, how they must need your help and therefore how you should treat them based on your own biased, and do i dare say, bigoted perceptions. It is not pigeonholing them. It is honoring their heritage, their life, their entire being. To not do so, to lump them all in one category allows you to ignore their struggles, ignore their differences, ignore who they are. God made many colors, many religions, many cultures, many sexualities. Let them speak! Don't paint them with such broad strokes that they no longer have an identity except American. After all, look at the popularity of DNA testing to find one's true heritage. If it's enough to be "American," then why do people want to know their heritage? Let me answer that for you: It matters. Honor it. |
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Post by beavermd on Jun 11, 2021 16:51:41 GMT -8
And another thing while I'm at it. I'm sick and tired of white people telling me I need to view people with a different shade of skin than I as "other". A minority. I don't want my kids or wife to be thought of as a "person of color" and neither do they. It's insulting. In my view it further divides. They're Americans. Those with good intentions propagate this otherness. We're all brothers and sisters. We are all created in God's image. Stop with classifying people by something so trite as skin color or sexual preference, pigeon-holing them into your preconceived notion of who you think they should be, how they should feel, how they should vote, how they must need your help and therefore how you should treat them based on your own biased, and do i dare say, bigoted perceptions. It is not pigeonholing them. It is honoring their heritage, their life, their entire being. To not do so, to lump them all in one category allows you to ignore their struggles, ignore their differences, ignore who they are. God made many colors, many religions, many cultures, many sexualities. Let them speak! Don't paint them with such broad strokes that they no longer have an identity except American. After all, look at the popularity of DNA testing to find one's true heritage. If it's enough to be "American," then why do people want to know their heritage? Let me answer that for you: It matters. Honor it. If we look at this through the lens of CRT, here we have a white man criticizing the lived experience of a brown man. This is oppression in action if we look at the hierarchy of hegemonic identities. We have no choice but to recognize this as racism in action. Clearly, Irimi is the in the wrong and must do the work to show he’s anti-racist. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 11, 2021 17:38:32 GMT -8
It is not pigeonholing them. It is honoring their heritage, their life, their entire being. To not do so, to lump them all in one category allows you to ignore their struggles, ignore their differences, ignore who they are. God made many colors, many religions, many cultures, many sexualities. Let them speak! Don't paint them with such broad strokes that they no longer have an identity except American. After all, look at the popularity of DNA testing to find one's true heritage. If it's enough to be "American," then why do people want to know their heritage? Let me answer that for you: It matters. Honor it. If we look at this through the lens of CRT, here we have a white man criticizing the lived experience of a brown man. This is oppression in action if we look at the hierarchy of hegemonic identities. We have no choice but to recognize this as racism in action. Clearly, Irimi is the in the wrong and must do the work to show he’s anti-racist. Sure. Gotcha. You assume I am white. Why? You assume that wetrodentia is brown. Why? As for wetrodentia's experience, I am open to it and I believe when he tells his story. I can disagree with his conclusion that seeing everyone as American is a practical solution. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 11, 2021 17:45:03 GMT -8
Dukart, Watkins, Pfennings, Mundt and Salgado are actually draft eligible. I hope they do not get drafted. We need them next year. If they all stay, the future looks bright. This is a baseball thread, isn't it? Go Beavs! So is Will Frisch. All should be back though as another year will benefit their stock greatly. A rotation of Pfennings, Frisch, Hjerpe, and Washburn sounds pretty solid.....not sure who's weekend or midweek |
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Post by beavermd on Jun 11, 2021 17:48:29 GMT -8
So is Will Frisch. All should be back though as another year will benefit their stock greatly. A rotation of Pfennings, Frisch, Hjerpe, and Washburn sounds pretty solid.....not sure who's weekend or midweek My guess is that Hjerpe gets the ball on Fridays and Pfennigs/Frisch round out the weekend. Washburn will be needed in the pen. I’d look for Townsend or a freshman to start midweek games. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Jun 11, 2021 17:53:27 GMT -8
We need a guy or two that is a threat to put the ball over the fence. Currently there isn't that guy.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 11, 2021 17:54:13 GMT -8
A rotation of Pfennings, Frisch, Hjerpe, and Washburn sounds pretty solid.....not sure who's weekend or midweek My guess is that Hjerpe gets the ball on Fridays and Pfennigs/Frisch round out the weekend. Washburn will be needed in the pen. I’d look for Townsend or a freshman to start midweek games. It's exciting to think about. We have some good depth if everyone comes back. I like that Lawson kid too. He's got some nasty off-speed stuff. Hopefully Salgado is good to go. I heard he wasn't 💯 and it seems like that based on what we saw at the end. |
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Post by badwack on Jun 11, 2021 17:54:18 GMT -8
According to this Baseball thread the one that is a racist. Or is it the one that isn't a racist, depending on their skin color if it is racist. Hope that clears that up!
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 11, 2021 17:55:17 GMT -8
We need a guy or two that is a threat to put the ball over the fence. Currently there isn't that guy. Melton |
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Post by speakthetruth on Jun 11, 2021 17:57:11 GMT -8
We need a guy or two that is a threat to put the ball over the fence. Currently there isn't that guy. Melton Need two more than him. |
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Post by beavermd on Jun 11, 2021 18:03:36 GMT -8
If we look at this through the lens of CRT, here we have a white man criticizing the lived experience of a brown man. This is oppression in action if we look at the hierarchy of hegemonic identities. We have no choice but to recognize this as racism in action. Clearly, Irimi is the in the wrong and must do the work to show he’s anti-racist. Sure. Gotcha. You assume I am white. Why? You assume that wetrodentia is brown. Why? As for wetrodentia's experience, I am open to it and I believe when he tells his story. I can disagree with his conclusion that seeing everyone as American is a practical solution. To be honest, I’m trying to parse the dialogue between the two of you I misread something wetrodentia wrote. As for you, you spoke of your family’s discrimination due to their skin being “yellow” and that you experienced it by extension. So I made the assumption you’re white since you didn’t mention any personal discrimination due to your skin color. If that was a poor assumption then allow me to apologize. Still, had I been correct in my assumptions, the scenario is how CRT says to view all interactions between race. As the question is never did racism occur, but how did racism manifest? So racism is always present. And if we extend that to Critical Theory in general, oppression is always present in interactions between those with different identities on the hegemonic power scale. I find it all to be anti-intellectual. Grouping people into categories that are largely uncontrolled by themselves like race, sex, sexual identity, etc, is incredibly simplistic. Does that mean that oppression has never occurred throughout history? Obviously not. But the desire to look for oppression in every interaction is not healthy to a functioning society. It’s clear we disagree on some things. And, I’m ok with that. There’s always room for disagreement in dialogue. However, I’ve lost friends because they said there was no room for such disagreement. I hope one day reconciliation will be found with all Americans. Unfortunately, terms like MAGA and CRT lead to the divisiveness they are intended to create. It’s all very sad to me. |
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Jun 11, 2021 18:50:55 GMT -8
Is it racist to think of LSU fans as "swamp donkeys"?
Asking for a friend.......
Go Beavs!!!
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 11, 2021 19:21:34 GMT -8
Is it racist to think of LSU fans as "swamp donkeys"? Asking for a friend....... Go Beavs!!! I used to work with a dude from Louisiana.....huge LSU fan...called him a swamp donkey and he called me a dirty rodent.....we laughed |
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